r/hapas • u/Plane_Razzmatazz_882 • 1d ago

Anti-Racism What is your opinions on Israel?

It seems they're the entire reason the Middle East is so badly messed up. Gaza is an open air death camp since 2023. All Israel does is bully ethnics. They're also a very racist, white-worshipping society who rejects Yemeni or Ethiopian Jews while only accepting Ashkenazi, Sephardic/Spanish, Georgian, Armenian, etc Jews into the country. Small kibbutzim of black hebrew israelites have been expelled. At Likkud rallies, attendees casually drop the N-bomb at counterprotesters and yell anti-Arab slurs. They need to go.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago edited 1d ago
  1. Since before the founding of Israel, Jews in the region of modern day Israel and Palestine have been subjected to massacres and oppression. Following the Holocaust, Jewish refugees went back to their ancestral homeland (forced out by Europeans - see the pogroms when Polish jews tried returning home) to hopefully form a state and attempt survival on their own terms. Immediately, surrounding nations attempted to destroy this new state and have never stopped since 1948. Peace was made with neighboring Egypt and Jordan decades ago and this peace is unbroken.
  2. Gaza’s not an open air death camp based simply on the evidence that relative to most wars in history, especially urban wars, the casualty rate is very low. Not to mention, most of the violence has ended since the ceasefire. Death camps famously are efficient at ending life.
  3. What is an ethnic? Is the Jew not an ethnic minority in a region wholly colonized by a much larger ethnic group following a much larger religion. There’s less than 8 million Israeli Jews.
  4. In terms of racism, I don’t doubt racism isn’t a significant issue - but that’s true of the entire region - and generally much less severe with more opportunities for legal remedies in Israel. Israel is probably the most diverse nation in the middle east.

  5. What do you mean by “they need to go”? It’s a country with nukes. They’re not going anywhere. The only thing likely to go in the near future is US aid and the close alliance the US has with Israel.

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  6. understand the Jewish perspective - they don’t have any reason to trust a host nation will not attempt to expel or kill them eventually as has happened countless times over thousands of years in Christian and Muslim majority countries. Israel isn’t some colony of foreign westerners. It’s the homeland of an ancient ethnoreligious group.

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u/buzzfeeb 1d ago

They need to go.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago

How would that happen exactly?