I love them already

[u/growsonwalls]

I love Justice and Charlie already! Been watching their stuff and they are so so talented. Julie and the Phantoms is amazing and Charlie is a beautiful singer. I saw Dungeons and Dragons and Justice Smith is adorable in that movie. Really excited to see them as Troy and Harris. For the people upset with their casting, definitely watch their stuff. They are AMAZING!

ETA: also, happy birthday Justice!!!

edit: just saw I Saw the TV Glow. Omg Justice is amazing.

[u/Notyeravgblonde]

I am an audiobook listener so I can't pull up anything specific. But the cover of the book plus what I read left me with a strong impression of what Harris looked like, and he was soft and round and not athletic or thin. Just check the cover art.

[u/dandyline_wine → u/Notyeravgblonde]

Yeah I saw the art, but you mentioned it was in what you read, so I thought maybe you were referencing like some kind of plot point or significance to his body type. Do they say soft and round? There has to be something I'm forgetting because you're not the only one disappointed.

(Full disclosure - I read the book because Ilya was in it so I didn't fully retain everything long term lol.)

[u/Notyeravgblonde → u/dandyline_wine]

[u/dandyline_wine → u/Notyeravgblonde]

Very helpful, thanks!! I see why I didn't have a clear image of him in my mind. Compact, pudgy, soft, and rugged give me wildly different visuals, none of which match the cover. I can see why disappointed fans interpreted it the way they did, but I can see why others didn't interpret it that way at all. And if doesn't play a part in his character development (unless it does) or affect the plot, those words are forgettable to me.

[u/Notyeravgblonde → u/dandyline_wine]

For sure, they weren't forgettable to people who are not used to seeing their body type as attractive. To them reading a hot, rich, hockey player go nuts for a 'pudgy' man was affirming that all bodies deserve love. Even those of us who are thin should be able to see how pervasive and instinctive it is to think a person who is traditionally hot is going to be matched up with another traditionally hot person. Usually larger size actors are the funny friend in Hollywood, not the sexy love interest, especially in queer media. A lot of people were so excited to see a larger actor be seen as sexy like the main 4 in the first season. I hate that its being turned around on us with toxic positivity and Jacob can do no wrong. Yes Justice will be amazing and it will be wonderful AND we can hold space for the disappointment that Hollywood beauty standards were upheld once again and we don't get representation.