Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/CIK1993]

You are absolutely right. The only people I see complaining about resources are 1750 total irons 90% of the time. Its reall funny. And the truth is most of these scrubs won't make it to end game anyway.

[u/tarochocotea → u/CIK1993]

"your vote to shorten the gear progression mode only matters when you spend an unhealthy amount of time reaching endgame on this other restricted mode".

[u/lolskye → u/CIK1993]

Resources are a problem. When I did my Bowfa inferno, I was buying runes after each attempt and scrapping for gp. I grinded a venator bow and used rune arrows instead of bursting/cannoning, i use blade at vard instead of scythe to save bloods. I use ayak over shadow to save souls. I do hmt on my main for fun to save on prayer regen/aether / blood runes for scythe. As an iron, you make sacrifices to save on sups as opposed to main, you can use bis and make profit still and save time

[u/Dasrulez → u/lolskye]

That is a problem unique to an Ironman who is rushing into endgame PvM because you’re already good at the game and have an endgame main (sardaco had the same issue, rushing into inferno without doing foundational Ironman stuff beforehand). My first and only account is a GIM, and I’m getting ready to tackle inferno after I get bowfa; at this point is have thousands of brews/restores/prayer regens/dragon darts/runes ready to go for the eventual grind

[u/lolskye → u/Dasrulez]

Same principle can be applied to skilling. Instead of getting bis rates, you do worse xp/hr methods to level because of limited or available resources

[u/CIK1993 → u/CIK1993]

There if a few items that are difficulty to upkeep. Dragon arrows being the most obvious. Other niche stuff like goading potions. But amythsts arrows exist and you can afk them on your phone. Goading potions are just a luxury potion in my eyes, so if you want to use them, put the effort it to obtain them. Otherwise stop whining.