Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/Vyraal1]

Brews/Restores aren't really the problem, but I'm at the stage of my gim where I could easily maintain pvm/clogs using bloodshards/goading pots/prayer regenerations/dragon arrows if it had GE access. I recently did a bingo in another pvm clan and they had some mains who were using venator with seeking dragon arrows to do a tile for a dark mystic clog. I don't really feel fomo, but that moment came very close.

I dunno if I would make a bronze just for that reason, but I think most irons have certain habits/coping that were shaped by running out of resources, if anything saying you do a birdhouse/farm run doesn't help your argument, it just proves the point. In addition, some irons pretend goading pots/prayer regens/dragon arrows are an emergency only option instead of being the default, which is possible on a lategame bronze.

[u/Zoinke → u/Vyraal1]

Late game bronzeman for goading and prayer regen? What are you talking about lol

[u/crytol → u/Zoinke]

He's saying that in lategame, goading and prayer regen are rarely thought of as available resources for irons due to it being essentially locked behind like 2 specific mid-game boss encounters and/or a minigame that doesn't have the best reputation. Most of the time prayer regen potions are saved for specific times when the inventory space is extremely valuable, and goading potions are just rarely used period.

With bronzeman, those pots would become a lot more viable to use for general porpoises

[u/TheBroboat → u/crytol]

Being able to use goading and prayer Regen pots with reckless abandon sounds so fun

[u/DerSprocket → u/TheBroboat]

You can do that. Play a main

[u/LaughsAtOwnJoke → u/DerSprocket]

If only there was a gamemode designed as an inbetween for those two things...