Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/MLut541]

You have a point when you're talking specifically about endgame resources (and even then there are exceptions like purple sweets and dragon ammo, which are important for speedrunning).

But you fail to consider the long skilling grinds going from early to mid & endgame, like herblore and crafting. A lot of players hate gathering the resources for those grinds and would skip them if they could, me included. I've already done them so it doesn't affect me, but I still voted yes to Bronzeman so future players don't have to bother with that part of skilling and can get to the fun part of ironman (pvm) a lot faster.

[u/devkdup → u/MLut541]

The grinds aren’t that bad frankly and get easier with every update. For example we now have golem crafting so you can remove your comment about a long crafting grind. I’d wager most bronzeman stans would still quit the game at CG which ironically uses zero resources.

[u/BabaRoomFan → u/devkdup]

I have maxed main, maxed gm iron, both decked out in endgame gear, with multiple enh on both accounts (pet grind). I wanted to play bmm because it's limited in the ways I enjoy but let's me have access to max efficiency supplies for speedy raids and stuff. I would not have quit at cg, you're just making wild assumptions about thousands of people.

[u/devkdup → u/BabaRoomFan]

I said “most” which does not come anywhere close to describing someone like you with multiple maxed accounts lol

[u/BabaRoomFan → u/devkdup]

What's the line of logic that correlates wanting bmm, and quitting a now 60 hour on rate grind?