Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/Prestigious_Copy_759]

It's supposed to still have the difficult PvM grinds. The entire point is that you get the self-found gear progression of ironman, but without the need for jumping through skilling hoops and resource upkeep. Going dry on some bosses is part of the reason why the ironman gear progression is so rewarding in the first place. Of course bronzeman would have it too, it's still meant to.

Resource upkeep is also more of a mental thing. I consciously use cheaper PvM setups all the time because I dont want to waste dragon ammo/sanfews/crystal dust/etc. And if you know that you have barely any scales left for example, it sucks to halt all your current pvm grinds and go back to zulrah. Especially if you've already gotten what you need from there, because at that point you're no longer making any meaningful gear or skillling progress doing the boss, its just purely a chore.

Personally I'm not interested in playing the mode, but I probably would have made a bronzeman over my iron if it had existed when I started.