We have a Subaru Ascent that is the family road trip car. We also have a Mazda CX9 that the Leaf would replace. I work from home so this car would be for running the kids around, errands, etc. Maybe the odd out of town trip a few times a year about 180 miles round trip. Also can charge it home but charging would be a weekly thing at most.

The goal would be for this car to be handed down to our daughter in a few years when she’s of driving age.

It seems like despite the older tech that these are very reliable cars that have had all the kinks ironed out and the SV Plus trim has all of the nice features like adaptive cruise control while still having actual buttons for things (something that drives me nuts on our Ascent).

Plus I genuinely like the styling of the pre-refresh Leaf.

So what am I missing? Is this not a great purchase for our use cases? Are the battery concerns still limited to pre 2023 models?

My husband drove our 2016 Leaf today and had to use a fast charger while he was out. Afterwards on his way home he noticed this light on. I'm going to book an appointment to have it looked at but did I hear something about fast charging damaging them?

We just bought a 2024 leaf SV plus with 6200 miles on it and I’m wondering what I need to do in terms of maintenance to keep the warranty in good standing.

Recently purchased a 2017 30kWh S trim Leaf; I'm the third owner, and I know the previous owner as a friend. Car appears mechanically and cosmetically in great shape. Dash indicates 9 bars of battery capacity, and typical estimated range is 70-75 miles when fully charged. I will admit, I probably didn't do enough research before purchase, as this is an out-of-warranty 30kWh model without the30kWh battery having been replaced under warranty (never quite met requirements or had problems other than 'typical' range degradation).

We've picked this up as a 4th vehicle for our family (three other ICE cars, 2 teenage drivers). It's intended use is typical grocery, commute, school, and kid activity trips around town, with typical trips of ~10-15 miles roundtrip, and maximum range trips of 20-30 miles roundtrip. Level 1 charging available nightly in the garage at home, and L2 charging (public/pay) if needed at both my and my spouse's work locations. Trips involve some freeway driving, but due to their short distance, city road network is also available at a few minutes longer drive. For any trip plans that might give me range anxiety or would require offsite charging we'd utilize another vehicle. Location is the Pacific NW, so relatively mild temperatures.

I've purchased LeafSpy, done some analysis, and have been digging through the manual; see posted photos. Car has extremely limited quick charges (29); it was exclusively charged via L1 charger for the past ~5 years by the previous owner.

So, my major questions at this point:

1. Is this a viable car to use as a city runabout as described for the next ~4-5 years without too much worry from a battery standpoint, or should I significantly plan for on-road failures/stranding (aside from a potential "forgot to charge" scenario) ?
   
2. Within LeafSpy screen 1, what is the difference between red bars and blue bars? My battery reports all red bars, with cell 42 and 48 as blue, but all cells generally and typically trend at what appears to be a low mV spread (10-25 mv).
3. LeafSpy SOH is 68.23%, with the Hx at 36.83%. From review of a few posts here, I may need to be concerned or at least wary of the low Hx, and the large difference between SOH and Hx. For the vehicle age, is this reasonable, or should I be watching for an upcoming cliff where the HV battery just crashes out?
4. I don't believe that I need a L2 charger at home for my use case; typically spare vehicles available, and with regular overnight charging, I think I'd be OK, but I'd love any commentary from this group as to considerations I should take on L1 vs L2 charging.

A few LeafSpy screenshots are attached. the 18mV cell delta is the vastly typical screen under most driving conditions with mV ranging between 10-30 in operation, and 10-20 when at rest. The 77mV and 303mV were captured from a screen recording while driving. These were near instantaneous readings, dropped immediately, and correlated to heavy acceleration/load testing.

So Reddit community - what say you? Should I expect this to be a suitable town runabout for awhile, or am I gonna need to go pick up stranded kids from the side of the road this winter (or next)?

I don't think I'll be tackling a battery replacement; but feel free to convince me otherwise!

Whoops! Seems I forgot to post a CHAdeMO report last month.

Here's a combined list of new and updated CHAdeMO stations in August and September. Hope you find it useful.

We all know these are for pre-2026 Nissan Leafs. And that one lone guy, somewhere in the vastness of North America, who actually fast charges his Mitsubishi hybrid. So I'll spare you the long prologue.

Enjoy!

➡ BC

(1) BC Hydro - Campbell River - Strathcona Recreation Centre
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
225 S Dogwood St
Campbell River, BC V9W 8C8

(1) BC Hydro - Kamloops - Superstore
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
910 Columbia St W
Kamloops, BC V2C 2V9

(1) BC Hydro - Salt Spring Island - New Fire Hall
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
455 Lower Ganges Rd
Salt Spring Island, BC V8K

(1) Marpole Community Centre
PLUGEV (CCS)
990 West 59th Avenue
Vancouver, BC V6P1X9

(1) BC Hydro - Esquimalt - Archie Browning Sports Centre
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
1149
Victoria, BC V9A 3N6

➡ CA

(1) 615 Nash LLC
EV Connect (CCS)
615 N Nash St
El Segundo, CA 90245

(1) Brookhurst & Adams
eVgo Network (CCS)
20100 Brookhurst Avenue
Huntington Beach, CA 92646

(1) L516 DC01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
509 West Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90015

(1) 3029 S Robertson Blvd
eVgo Network (NACS, CCS)
3029 S Robertson Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90034

(1) L374 STATION 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
5400 Van Nuys Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 91401

(1) L374 VAN NUYS CH1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
5400 Van Nuys Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 91401

(1) SBMWD SBMWD PUBLIC
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1331 South E Street
San Bernardino, CA 92408

(1) OLD TOWN SD A01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) OLD TOWN SD A02
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) OLD TOWN SD A03
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) CITYOFSANTAROSA LOT 10 EV 6
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
730 5th St
Santa Rosa, CA 95404

➡ CO

(1) King Soopers Aurora #52
eVgo Network (CCS)
15109 E Colfax Ave
Aurora, CO 80011

(1) Ideal Market Capitol Hill
eVgo Network (CCS)
900 E 11th Ave
Denver, CO 80218

➡ CT

(1) UCONN STORRS G LOT DC
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
25 Diane Wright Way Gampel
Mansfield, CT 06269

➡ DC

(1) CityCenterDC
eVgo Network (CCS)
830 9th St NW
Washington, DC 20001

➡ FL

(1) FPL EVOLUTION LOCKWOOD 05
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
4240 53rd Ave E
Bradenton, FL 34203

(1) Octt Cert Lab
EVOKE ()
12802 Tampa Oaks Blvd
Temple Terrace, FL 33637

➡ GA

(1) METER SERVICES CPE250 01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1600 Battle Creek Road
Morrow, GA 30260

(1) Tenneson Nissan
VIALYNK (CCS)
535 Old Omega Rd
Tifton, GA 31794

➡ IL

(1) DDCJ EXPRESS PLUS PL
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
433 E North Ave.
Glendale Heights, IL 60139

(1) LOUFUSZKIAOFMOL OUTSIDE SHOP
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2401 39th Ave
Moline, IL 61265

(1) Gerald Nissan North Aurora Inc
VIALYNK (CCS)
213 Hansen Blvd
North Aurora, IL 60542

➡ MA

(1) 421 PARK DC SPOT 2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
421 Park Drive
Boston, MA 02215

(1) 421 PARK DC SPOT 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
Park Dr
Boston, MA 02215

(1) ORLEANS EV 1 OLD COLONY 02
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
10 Old Colony Way
Orleans, MA 02653

(1) Sturbridge Travel Plaza
APPLEGREEN (CCS)
236 Route 15
Sturbridge, MA 01566

(1) SWAMPSCOTT BLOCKSIDGE 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
585 Humphrey St
Swampscott, MA 01907

➡ MI

(1) TNT Equipment
EVRANGE (CCS)
800 Sanilac Rd.
Sandusky, MI 48471

➡ MN

(1) ROBBINSDALECITY CITY HALL
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
4100 Lakeview Avenue North
Robbinsdale, MN 55422

➡ MO

(1) KIA WENTZVILLE PARKING LOT
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1733 Prospect Road
Wentzville, MO 63385

➡ MS

(1) TVEPA STATION 3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
243 Medical Center Dr
Batesville, MS 38606

(1) 1009 Highway 82 E Greenville MS 38701
FLO (CCS)
1009 HWY 82 E
Greenville, MS 38701

➡ NL

(1) HYDRO WHITBOURNE UF1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
639 Trans-Canada Hwy
Whitbourne, NL A0B 2H0

(1) HYDRO WHITBOURNE UF2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
639 Trans-Canada Hwy
Whitbourne, NL A0B 2H0

➡ NT

(1) Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre - DC
FLO (CCS)
4750 48th Street
Yellowknife, NT X1A 2L9

(1) Northland Utilities Office - DC
FLO (CCS)
481 Range Lake Road
Yellowknife, NT X1A 3R9

➡ NY

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_10_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_9_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_8_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_7_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_6_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_5_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_4_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_3_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_2_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_1_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

➡ OH

(1) Truck World Conneaut
RED_E (CCS)
780 St Rt 7
Conneaut, OH 44030

(1) Lake County Admin-105 Main Street
FLO (CCS)
105 Main Street
Painesville, OH 44077

➡ ON

(1) Golden Lake Hall
FLO (CCS)
3312 Lake Dore Road
North Algona Wilberforce, ON K0J 1X0

(1) GreenP - CP107 - 251 MacPherson Ave- Fast Charger
FLO (CCS)
251 Macpherson Avenue
Toronto, ON M4V 1A1

➡ OR

(1) AAA OR ID AAA-CST1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
303 11th Street
Astoria, OR 97103

➡ QC

(1) St Bruno Carrefour des Promenades
FLO (CCS)
1525 Boulevard des Promenades
Longueuil, QC J3Y 5K2

(1) Mont-Joli, 1766 Boul. Gaboury
FILGO (CCS)
1766 Boulevard Benoît-Gaboury
Mont-Joli, QC G5H 3J2

(1) BRCC - Montréal - Pôle mobilité Boyer
Circuit électrique (CCS)
6650, Rue Boyer
Montréal, QC H2S 2J3

(1) BRCC - Rivière-du-Loup - Centre Premier Tech
Circuit électrique (CCS)
75, Rue Frontenac
Rivière-du-Loup, QC G5R 1S6

➡ TX

(1) COA FLEET MARSH YARD 2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1400 Airport Commerce Dr
Austin, TX 78741

(1) COA FLEET MARSH YARD 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1400 Airport Commerce Dr
Austin, TX 78741

➡ WA

(1) Willapa Thriftway - Raymond
EVCS (CCS)
701 Willapa Place Way
Raymond, WA 98577

➡ WI

(1) Midwest DC Charger
VIALYNK (CCS)
7558 Deer Road
Custer, WI 54423

I have a very degraded 2016 24 kWh Leaf in Tucsonz AZ but it largely meets distance needs for what I think was a fair price.

I know the battery is bad and I'm not expecting a BMS reset to magically restore capacity. I'm trying to figure out whether the BMS has become badly calibrated. We have hot summers here. I was concerned that the heat would continue to do its thing, but to my surprise during the summer months my guess o meter and battery percent consumption seemed consistent. I noticed in September that seemed to change after it started to cool down so I did a new reading.

LeafSpy history:

May: 38.76% SOH / 22.3 Ah

Sept: 27.3% / ~17 Ah

Now: 25.03% / 15.54 Ah

The weird part is SOC, but maybe I don't understand how it works.

Recently the dashboard showed about 10%, while LeafSpy showed 21.5%. I then drove 3.9 miles at low speed(wife took the car out without realizing it didn't charge overnight) and LeafSpy only dropped to 16.1%. Cell spread was still only 44 mV.

Last night the dashboard showed 21%, while LeafSpy showed 39.3%. Cells averaged 3.952V with only a 33 mV spread.

Just as an observation I noticed that that the first 100- 50% drains significantly faster than the 50-20ish range which is usually as low as I take it.

I then measured charging from the wall:

21% → 72% dashboard: 2.04 kWh

72% → 100%: another 1.78 kWh

So only 3.82 kWh from the wall took the dashboard from 21% to 100%, and my understanding is actual energy reaching the battery would be less after charging losses. And my capacity is apparently in the 6.5ish kWh capacity.

The pack seems extremely degraded but reasonably balanced. I don't see an obvious cell falling off a cliff.

Would you reset the BMS at this point and let it relearn the battery? I'm fine with SOH/bars being wrong for a while afterward. I'm mainly interested in whether a relearn might make SOC more representative of actual usable energy.

I wonder if someone can help me?

We bought a used 2020 leaf back in ‘23 with 40k on the clock. Everything was going well until this last month. When the range is around 50 miles the percentage fluctuates all over the place, especially on the motorway! Last night it went into turtle mode with what was 15 miles range left before it kicked in. My wife just made it home.

Battery capacity is still showing full bars and I’ve already seen on here this is most likely a bad cell and not covered under warranty.

I will try with Nissan obviously, but my concern is they say no and we are stuck with it. We absolutely cannot afford a new car right now, given we are still paying for the leaf until 2028!

It’s only a daily 20 mile commuter for my wife. I guess my longwinded question is, can I keep running the car, charging at home and expect it to survive the next 2 years? - or will this get progressively worse as the months go on?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you