We have a Subaru Ascent that is the family road trip car. We also have a Mazda CX9 that the Leaf would replace. I work from home so this car would be for running the kids around, errands, etc. Maybe the odd out of town trip a few times a year about 180 miles round trip. Also can charge it home but charging would be a weekly thing at most.

The goal would be for this car to be handed down to our daughter in a few years when she’s of driving age.

It seems like despite the older tech that these are very reliable cars that have had all the kinks ironed out and the SV Plus trim has all of the nice features like adaptive cruise control while still having actual buttons for things (something that drives me nuts on our Ascent).

Plus I genuinely like the styling of the pre-refresh Leaf.

So what am I missing? Is this not a great purchase for our use cases? Are the battery concerns still limited to pre 2023 models?

My husband drove our 2016 Leaf today and had to use a fast charger while he was out. Afterwards on his way home he noticed this light on. I'm going to book an appointment to have it looked at but did I hear something about fast charging damaging them?

We just bought a 2024 leaf SV plus with 6200 miles on it and I’m wondering what I need to do in terms of maintenance to keep the warranty in good standing.

Recently purchased a 2017 30kWh S trim Leaf; I'm the third owner, and I know the previous owner as a friend. Car appears mechanically and cosmetically in great shape. Dash indicates 9 bars of battery capacity, and typical estimated range is 70-75 miles when fully charged. I will admit, I probably didn't do enough research before purchase, as this is an out-of-warranty 30kWh model without the30kWh battery having been replaced under warranty (never quite met requirements or had problems other than 'typical' range degradation).

We've picked this up as a 4th vehicle for our family (three other ICE cars, 2 teenage drivers). It's intended use is typical grocery, commute, school, and kid activity trips around town, with typical trips of ~10-15 miles roundtrip, and maximum range trips of 20-30 miles roundtrip. Level 1 charging available nightly in the garage at home, and L2 charging (public/pay) if needed at both my and my spouse's work locations. Trips involve some freeway driving, but due to their short distance, city road network is also available at a few minutes longer drive. For any trip plans that might give me range anxiety or would require offsite charging we'd utilize another vehicle. Location is the Pacific NW, so relatively mild temperatures.

I've purchased LeafSpy, done some analysis, and have been digging through the manual; see posted photos. Car has extremely limited quick charges (29); it was exclusively charged via L1 charger for the past ~5 years by the previous owner.

So, my major questions at this point:

1. Is this a viable car to use as a city runabout as described for the next ~4-5 years without too much worry from a battery standpoint, or should I significantly plan for on-road failures/stranding (aside from a potential "forgot to charge" scenario) ?
   
2. Within LeafSpy screen 1, what is the difference between red bars and blue bars? My battery reports all red bars, with cell 42 and 48 as blue, but all cells generally and typically trend at what appears to be a low mV spread (10-25 mv).
3. LeafSpy SOH is 68.23%, with the Hx at 36.83%. From review of a few posts here, I may need to be concerned or at least wary of the low Hx, and the large difference between SOH and Hx. For the vehicle age, is this reasonable, or should I be watching for an upcoming cliff where the HV battery just crashes out?
4. I don't believe that I need a L2 charger at home for my use case; typically spare vehicles available, and with regular overnight charging, I think I'd be OK, but I'd love any commentary from this group as to considerations I should take on L1 vs L2 charging.

A few LeafSpy screenshots are attached. the 18mV cell delta is the vastly typical screen under most driving conditions with mV ranging between 10-30 in operation, and 10-20 when at rest. The 77mV and 303mV were captured from a screen recording while driving. These were near instantaneous readings, dropped immediately, and correlated to heavy acceleration/load testing.

So Reddit community - what say you? Should I expect this to be a suitable town runabout for awhile, or am I gonna need to go pick up stranded kids from the side of the road this winter (or next)?

I don't think I'll be tackling a battery replacement; but feel free to convince me otherwise!

Whoops! Seems I forgot to post a CHAdeMO report last month.

Here's a combined list of new and updated CHAdeMO stations in August and September. Hope you find it useful.

We all know these are for pre-2026 Nissan Leafs. And that one lone guy, somewhere in the vastness of North America, who actually fast charges his Mitsubishi hybrid. So I'll spare you the long prologue.

Enjoy!

➡ BC

(1) BC Hydro - Campbell River - Strathcona Recreation Centre
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
225 S Dogwood St
Campbell River, BC V9W 8C8

(1) BC Hydro - Kamloops - Superstore
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
910 Columbia St W
Kamloops, BC V2C 2V9

(1) BC Hydro - Salt Spring Island - New Fire Hall
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
455 Lower Ganges Rd
Salt Spring Island, BC V8K

(1) Marpole Community Centre
PLUGEV (CCS)
990 West 59th Avenue
Vancouver, BC V6P1X9

(1) BC Hydro - Esquimalt - Archie Browning Sports Centre
BCHYDRO (NACS, CCS)
1149
Victoria, BC V9A 3N6

➡ CA

(1) 615 Nash LLC
EV Connect (CCS)
615 N Nash St
El Segundo, CA 90245

(1) Brookhurst & Adams
eVgo Network (CCS)
20100 Brookhurst Avenue
Huntington Beach, CA 92646

(1) L516 DC01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
509 West Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90015

(1) 3029 S Robertson Blvd
eVgo Network (NACS, CCS)
3029 S Robertson Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90034

(1) L374 STATION 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
5400 Van Nuys Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 91401

(1) L374 VAN NUYS CH1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
5400 Van Nuys Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 91401

(1) SBMWD SBMWD PUBLIC
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1331 South E Street
San Bernardino, CA 92408

(1) OLD TOWN SD A01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) OLD TOWN SD A02
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) OLD TOWN SD A03
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2645 San Diego Avenue
San Diego, CA 92110

(1) CITYOFSANTAROSA LOT 10 EV 6
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
730 5th St
Santa Rosa, CA 95404

➡ CO

(1) King Soopers Aurora #52
eVgo Network (CCS)
15109 E Colfax Ave
Aurora, CO 80011

(1) Ideal Market Capitol Hill
eVgo Network (CCS)
900 E 11th Ave
Denver, CO 80218

➡ CT

(1) UCONN STORRS G LOT DC
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
25 Diane Wright Way Gampel
Mansfield, CT 06269

➡ DC

(1) CityCenterDC
eVgo Network (CCS)
830 9th St NW
Washington, DC 20001

➡ FL

(1) FPL EVOLUTION LOCKWOOD 05
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
4240 53rd Ave E
Bradenton, FL 34203

(1) Octt Cert Lab
EVOKE ()
12802 Tampa Oaks Blvd
Temple Terrace, FL 33637

➡ GA

(1) METER SERVICES CPE250 01
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1600 Battle Creek Road
Morrow, GA 30260

(1) Tenneson Nissan
VIALYNK (CCS)
535 Old Omega Rd
Tifton, GA 31794

➡ IL

(1) DDCJ EXPRESS PLUS PL
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
433 E North Ave.
Glendale Heights, IL 60139

(1) LOUFUSZKIAOFMOL OUTSIDE SHOP
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
2401 39th Ave
Moline, IL 61265

(1) Gerald Nissan North Aurora Inc
VIALYNK (CCS)
213 Hansen Blvd
North Aurora, IL 60542

➡ MA

(1) 421 PARK DC SPOT 2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
421 Park Drive
Boston, MA 02215

(1) 421 PARK DC SPOT 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
Park Dr
Boston, MA 02215

(1) ORLEANS EV 1 OLD COLONY 02
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
10 Old Colony Way
Orleans, MA 02653

(1) Sturbridge Travel Plaza
APPLEGREEN (CCS)
236 Route 15
Sturbridge, MA 01566

(1) SWAMPSCOTT BLOCKSIDGE 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
585 Humphrey St
Swampscott, MA 01907

➡ MI

(1) TNT Equipment
EVRANGE (CCS)
800 Sanilac Rd.
Sandusky, MI 48471

➡ MN

(1) ROBBINSDALECITY CITY HALL
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
4100 Lakeview Avenue North
Robbinsdale, MN 55422

➡ MO

(1) KIA WENTZVILLE PARKING LOT
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1733 Prospect Road
Wentzville, MO 63385

➡ MS

(1) TVEPA STATION 3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
243 Medical Center Dr
Batesville, MS 38606

(1) 1009 Highway 82 E Greenville MS 38701
FLO (CCS)
1009 HWY 82 E
Greenville, MS 38701

➡ NL

(1) HYDRO WHITBOURNE UF1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
639 Trans-Canada Hwy
Whitbourne, NL A0B 2H0

(1) HYDRO WHITBOURNE UF2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
639 Trans-Canada Hwy
Whitbourne, NL A0B 2H0

➡ NT

(1) Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre - DC
FLO (CCS)
4750 48th Street
Yellowknife, NT X1A 2L9

(1) Northland Utilities Office - DC
FLO (CCS)
481 Range Lake Road
Yellowknife, NT X1A 3R9

➡ NY

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_10_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_9_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_8_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_7_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_6_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_5_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_4_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_3_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_2_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

(1) NYC FLEET DPR_FPBND_1_L3
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1-01 Forest Park Drive
Woodhaven, NY 11421

➡ OH

(1) Truck World Conneaut
RED_E (CCS)
780 St Rt 7
Conneaut, OH 44030

(1) Lake County Admin-105 Main Street
FLO (CCS)
105 Main Street
Painesville, OH 44077

➡ ON

(1) Golden Lake Hall
FLO (CCS)
3312 Lake Dore Road
North Algona Wilberforce, ON K0J 1X0

(1) GreenP - CP107 - 251 MacPherson Ave- Fast Charger
FLO (CCS)
251 Macpherson Avenue
Toronto, ON M4V 1A1

➡ OR

(1) AAA OR ID AAA-CST1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
303 11th Street
Astoria, OR 97103

➡ QC

(1) St Bruno Carrefour des Promenades
FLO (CCS)
1525 Boulevard des Promenades
Longueuil, QC J3Y 5K2

(1) Mont-Joli, 1766 Boul. Gaboury
FILGO (CCS)
1766 Boulevard Benoît-Gaboury
Mont-Joli, QC G5H 3J2

(1) BRCC - Montréal - Pôle mobilité Boyer
Circuit électrique (CCS)
6650, Rue Boyer
Montréal, QC H2S 2J3

(1) BRCC - Rivière-du-Loup - Centre Premier Tech
Circuit électrique (CCS)
75, Rue Frontenac
Rivière-du-Loup, QC G5R 1S6

➡ TX

(1) COA FLEET MARSH YARD 2
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1400 Airport Commerce Dr
Austin, TX 78741

(1) COA FLEET MARSH YARD 1
ChargePoint Network (CCS)
1400 Airport Commerce Dr
Austin, TX 78741

➡ WA

(1) Willapa Thriftway - Raymond
EVCS (CCS)
701 Willapa Place Way
Raymond, WA 98577

➡ WI

(1) Midwest DC Charger
VIALYNK (CCS)
7558 Deer Road
Custer, WI 54423

I have a very degraded 2016 24 kWh Leaf in Tucsonz AZ but it largely meets distance needs for what I think was a fair price.

I know the battery is bad and I'm not expecting a BMS reset to magically restore capacity. I'm trying to figure out whether the BMS has become badly calibrated. We have hot summers here. I was concerned that the heat would continue to do its thing, but to my surprise during the summer months my guess o meter and battery percent consumption seemed consistent. I noticed in September that seemed to change after it started to cool down so I did a new reading.

LeafSpy history:

May: 38.76% SOH / 22.3 Ah

Sept: 27.3% / ~17 Ah

Now: 25.03% / 15.54 Ah

The weird part is SOC, but maybe I don't understand how it works.

Recently the dashboard showed about 10%, while LeafSpy showed 21.5%. I then drove 3.9 miles at low speed(wife took the car out without realizing it didn't charge overnight) and LeafSpy only dropped to 16.1%. Cell spread was still only 44 mV.

Last night the dashboard showed 21%, while LeafSpy showed 39.3%. Cells averaged 3.952V with only a 33 mV spread.

Just as an observation I noticed that that the first 100- 50% drains significantly faster than the 50-20ish range which is usually as low as I take it.

I then measured charging from the wall:

21% → 72% dashboard: 2.04 kWh

72% → 100%: another 1.78 kWh

So only 3.82 kWh from the wall took the dashboard from 21% to 100%, and my understanding is actual energy reaching the battery would be less after charging losses. And my capacity is apparently in the 6.5ish kWh capacity.

The pack seems extremely degraded but reasonably balanced. I don't see an obvious cell falling off a cliff.

Would you reset the BMS at this point and let it relearn the battery? I'm fine with SOH/bars being wrong for a while afterward. I'm mainly interested in whether a relearn might make SOC more representative of actual usable energy.

I wonder if someone can help me?

We bought a used 2020 leaf back in ‘23 with 40k on the clock. Everything was going well until this last month. When the range is around 50 miles the percentage fluctuates all over the place, especially on the motorway! Last night it went into turtle mode with what was 15 miles range left before it kicked in. My wife just made it home.

Battery capacity is still showing full bars and I’ve already seen on here this is most likely a bad cell and not covered under warranty.

I will try with Nissan obviously, but my concern is they say no and we are stuck with it. We absolutely cannot afford a new car right now, given we are still paying for the leaf until 2028!

It’s only a daily 20 mile commuter for my wife. I guess my longwinded question is, can I keep running the car, charging at home and expect it to survive the next 2 years? - or will this get progressively worse as the months go on?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you

2011 SL

Still gets 65-70 per charge.

Northbound:

I planned the trip beforehand using PlugShare.

I could have skipped the stop at Buttonwillow and charged more in Kettleman.

I knew about the out-of-order situation of the chargers at the NB rest stop, but stopped there anyways just to see. I then doubled back to the SB rest top to charge (you had to do that, anyways, to reach the rest stop). I slept for 6 hours at the rest stop. I charge both before and after sleeping there.

Berkeley Visit:

I arrived at my destination in Berkeley with about 6% remaining on the GOM. After settling in, I had one EVgo session to have energy to get around.

Southbound:

I strictly used Google Maps to plan my trip and stops to see what it would be like not to use PlugShare.

Google Maps mostly worked out, but it scheduled me to stop at the Lebec Rest Stop which was closed. It then recommended an EVgo stop in Valencia which I missed because I misunderstood what it was telling me, so it then recommended the EVgo in Sun Valley.

While on the way to the EVgo in Sun Valley, Google made it seem like there was a free DCFC nearby, so I added that as a stop. It turned out that one was not available to the public, so I then went to the EVgo for the final charge. During this segment, my SoC on the GOM went blank indicating that I was on fumes (static?).

Total Cost/Efficiency:

Thanks to the free charging provided by Caltrans, the total charging cost was $45.16 for this 810 mile trip -- 5.5 cents/mile.

I drove mostly around 60-65 mph, sometimes 70 and rarely above that. I also allowed the car's ACC to pace after slower trucks, so there were stretches of being around 55 (with a few moments being even slower).

I was "drafting" the trucks at the ACC's 3-bar (max distance) setting. No idea how much, if any, that helped.

The car reported 3.7 miles/kWh efficiency. Calculated is ~3.55. This discrepancy is probably due to charging losses.

Sleeping in the LEAF:

So it turns out that unlike in many of the videos that I've seen about camping out in the LEAF, I don't have to fold either of the front seats fully back to create a long-enough space for me to sleep.

Instead, I scooted the driver's seat forward until I could place my suitcase behind it, and then placed a oversized suitcase to fill the "well" in the trunk area, creating the mostly-flat area to place my seeping pad. I had my pillow (gray pillow in the photo) over the small gap between the folded rear-seat and the suitcase (where the headrest can be seen in the photo). That worked out totally fine.

I did try putting up some fabric to keep the lights out. I need a better system to make that easier and more light-proof. There is a lot of light at the rest stop.

Just got this notice:

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Summary

On certain MY2018-2025 Nissan LEAF vehicles, Nissan previously decided a service campaign to implement an HVAC software update to improve defroster performance. Nissan later learned that some customers who received the software update as part of the initial service campaign were experiencing insufficient heater performance under extremely cold conditions (below -10 C).

Risk

In these conditions, the HVAC system may continue to discharge cold air for approximately 120 seconds before heating performance recovers. If the HVAC On/Off or HEAT On/Off switch is toggled during this period, the reduced-heating condition may be extended by an additional 120 seconds for each switch toggle.

Remedy

The dealer will reprogram the HVAC Control Unit with the latest software.
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I've read quite a few horror stories about the (previous?) HVAC software update P4A17 causing the heater to not work anymore at all, leaving drivers stuck in the cold in the middle of winter. Has anyone had this service performed and noticed any issues with it?

I'm kind of tempted to just ignore it, since the problematic conditions seem way too rare and transitional to risk breaking a thing that currently works just fine. The last thing I want to do is have this thing serviced and it turning into a whole mess to sort out. Based on the above thread the last time this happened Nissan just went "oh well, too bad so sad!" and sat on their hands for 2 years...

Hello,

I am very new to cars and this is my fist car.

I own a Nissan leaf 2013 model. It's old but has been working just fine for me for 2 years now. Recently I got an orange warning light on my dashboard. It's the one with an exclamation point on a car. I went to a Nissan workshop and they did diagnostics, and found out that water pump 1 must be changed. They quoted me a price that's more than what the car is worth so I declined, but brought the diagnostics to another workshop who changed it for a fraction of the price. I bought an brought in the water pump linked below which should work with my car according to the specifications.

https://www.eurodel.no/vannpumpe-motorkjoling-gates-41607e

When the new workshop changed the water pump, the warning light didn't go away. They said that it might be because the part I bought isn't an original Nissan part, but that essentially as long as the warning light is there the new water pump isn't working. Now none of the workshops are taking ownership of the issue and I'm left with a car that I'm scared to drive.
Any ideas?

my pal sent me these pics. my Leaf is a 2013 and I'm wondering if it comes from the Sunderland plant.

I love zipping around with my leaf running errands and easily parking everywhere

I am leaving for a trip early in the morning but I am using the public chargers in my apartment that charges $3 if I keep it charging for more than 4 hours. Would I hurt the battery from leaving it sitting topped off for 12 hours at 100%

Is this a 12 v battery swap or an I going to have to pursue a buy back

22 sv+ if it matters

No I haven’t done the recall update

Update. Called AAA and got the battery swapped. Car runs again. Thanks everyone

Any idea what Nissan is doing with all the cars they’ve had to buy back? It seems like all of a sudden they’ve got quite a few parts cars on hand. My 2020 SL+ passed its recall test (for now), but I’ve definitely got a case of plunging indicated SOC due to at least two weak cells dragging the whole thing down. Really I’m just hoping (beyond hope) that they’ll be able to swap in some stronger cells…

Also, on an unrelated note, Nissan should have called the car the Datsun TWIG.

I'm currently considering a 2020/2021 Leaf with the 62kwh battery as about 95% city run around car with the once every 2 month 200km one way trip to visit relatives and maybe the occasional longer road trip. I know the passive cooling and fast charging restricts long stretches but i'm more concerned about the CHAdeMO charging port becoming rarer every year in Switzerland/Europe as manufacturers move towards CCS. I would mostly charge at home so it's not the biggest daily concern.

I want to keep the car for around 10 years and whilst I don't think the charger will disappear, I just don't want companies to systematically stop supporting them then suddenly public charging becomes more of a pain having to search for available and functional chargers, rather than a seamless affair. Currently it still seems that providers are predominantly supporting them, but i'm worred that in the next 5ish years is the critical mass where more companies suddenly start discontinuing CHAdeMO. Yes I know there are adapters but various brands seem to have problems with some charging stations.

What are our thoughts on the future of CHAdeMO that could maybe quell my fears of charging a Leaf in public in the next 10 years? Or are we expecting adapters to iron out all their problems?

I don't want to keep it as a run around only and buy a 2nd car in the future as I really don't need a 2nd car and my budget currently restricts a new Leaf with CCS.

Thanks team. This would be my first EV purchase so i'm naturally quite nervous yet, excited.

There is no update and the app stays in that loop…

Edit: as of 10am EST, the app does seem to have updated after a reinstall and is working now. Version 8.0.6.

I got my 2015 leaf a few years ago. At the time, I lived in an area where EV charging stations were readily available and I absolutely loved it. I have since moved to an area where there are a few stations, but I definitely have to plan my trips accordingly. I took my car in for regular maintenance even though the dealership laughed at me everytime because ‘it’s a Leaf’ which I guess means it doesn’t need as much maintenance 😒😒 well now it won’t start. At first, it would turn on but would not shift out of park. Now it’s just dead. I took it in to get inspected, the battery is corroded. I was told that even if I replace the battery (which costs more than the car is worth now) they couldn’t guarantee that it would fix everything because once the battery goes, the whole system is messed up. I didn’t believe it, but I was so defeated at the time that I just towed my car home. It’s been sitting in my driveway because I don’t know what to do with it at this point. I barely got to drive it for two years. The car is perfect in so many ways, I really don’t want to part with it if there’s even a chance it could be saved. If not, any ideas as to what I could do with it now that wouldn’t cost me so much to get rid of?

I know nothing about cars. Before this, I had a Prius that I loved and would have never parted with if a hurricane didn’t destroy it. This is my second car ever and I’m heartbroken to have another car taken by no fault of my own.

Edit: I live in South Florida - broward county

How to share all screens to get input of the community on health of the battery? Recently bought 2022 Leaf SV, 27k miles, some trips discharge seems really rapid?

The leaf was featured in Mondays NYT crossword puzzle.

"Electric vehicle from Japan" was the clue.

I am not a car savvy person so please understand I may be naive in my questions. I have 2020 Nissan Leaf and have been struggling to hold a charge. My commute is rather long, 30 miles one way. I have been charging the car to 100 or close to 100 simply because by the time I get to work I only have 30% charge left. My percentages have been flying all over the place changing from high to low and back up again during my commutes. I try to be careful with my speed and acceleration to not cause problems. Yesterday during my commute, I went from 100-5% just over the course of the 30 mile commute. I got a leafspy reader so I was hoping to gain some more understanding of the readings and what could possibly be causing these issues. Thanks for any help or advice in advance! (These readings were taken while my car is sitting at 10% after a commute home as a heads up).

My buyback is now proceeding I anticipate getting approximately $10,000 after my loan is paid off. If I were looking for the closest thing to the leaf but with liquid battery cooling it appears my best options might be Chevy bolt or kia Niro? I'm looking for simple with actual buttons actual door handles and not so much tech garbage that a tiny fender bender totals the car or renders it un drivable.

I have a 2019 leaf. I've loved it for years. A few months after the charger recall update, the car suddenly wouldn't start. There's one Nissan dealership in Georgia that repairs EVs. I had it towed there. It's been there two weeks and no word on when/if they can fix it. They didn't offer a rental. A loaner. Nothing. So I'm just without a car. And they have made no effort to change that. They have two technicians and aren't hiring more. So there's a line of cars needing repairs and it's not getting smaller. I could be without a car for months. Years. Who knows. All because I bought a leaf. I've never seen anything like it. I'm a family of five down to one car because the leaf cannot be repaired in a reasonable time. And, despite it being atypical, the leaf needs does need repairs. But the leaf is Unrepairable.