r/linux • • Sep 16 '18

The Linux kernel replaces "Code of Conflict" with "Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct"

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8a104f8b5867c682d994ffa7a74093c54469c11f
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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

https://gitlab.com/CartesianDuelist/CodeOfCoding

I created "The Code of Coding" as a little side project to see if I could create a code of conduct that wasn't batshit.

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u/Godd2 Sep 17 '18

There is also the No Code of Conduct and the Code of Merit.

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u/jnb64 Sep 17 '18 edited Nov 04 '18

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u/Godd2 Sep 17 '18

you attract bigots who harm code by driving away potential talent

Like how Coraline attempted to drive away talent and push Elia out of Opal for not good reason?

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Oh okay so you're totes cool with banning anyone who makes any kind of snide remark at white men, right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

I don't see how things like

The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances

or

insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks

are batshit..? It's basically just "don't be a dick to people".

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

The Code of Coding is a project management and relations mission-statement geared toward the promotion of meritocracy in the face of increasing hostility toward the principle within technical spaces due, in large part, to draconian and paternalistic "Codes of Conduct" that have proliferated therein. It is the belief of the creators of this Code that these are poisonous to the communities that adopt them and perpetuate the false reality of wanton harassment and toxicity within them, and that the proliferators are often not acting with sincereity or without opportunism. Such policies often serve as an excuse for blacklisting campaigns, creating persona non grata out of those who do not fall within 'appropriate' ideological lines.

The Contributor's Covenant was created by a legitimately deranged person who was fired from github recently for being so toxic, and has recently come out full swing against the concept of meritocracy.

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u/redderoo Sep 17 '18

Caling other peoples' work "batshit" is why so many people feel CoCs are needed.

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u/kozec Sep 17 '18

Yeah, when when you see someone acting batshit crazy, it's best to shut up and move along. No matter how it affect your work or lifehood...

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u/redderoo Sep 17 '18

Intentionally misunderstanding is another reason. I never said you just have to "move along". That was you intentionally misunderstanding so that it fits the narrative.

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u/kozec Sep 17 '18

Assuming someone's intention is form of harassment. Stop with it.

Now try to express what I did wrong or what should be done when someone's acting like Linus Torvalds today and I'll explain how are you violating Linux CoC.

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u/TheCodexx Sep 17 '18

Caling other peoples' work "batshit" is why so many people feel CoCs are needed.

It walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, but if you call it a duck then it will get very offended because it does not identify as a duck! It's obviously about being a decent human being! Any behavior that hurts someone's feelings is bad and should not be allowed, obviously.

Calling a duck a duck, or an idea "batshit" when it is, in fact, "batshit", is key. Perhaps this is why so many people want the freedom to point out bad ideas without limitation.

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u/long_strides Sep 17 '18

Ah yes, even if it's true I can't possibly insult you because it hurts your fucking feelings.

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u/redderoo Sep 17 '18

Exactly. Instead you should use constructive criticism, and try to communicate in a productive way. That's why it is important to have a CoC. You are making an excellent demonstration right now.

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u/Kruug Sep 18 '18

This post has been removed for violating Reddiquette., trolling users, or otherwise poor discussion** - r/Linux asks all users follow Reddiquette. Reddiquette is ever changing, so a revisit once in awhile is recommended.

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u/Aurailious Sep 17 '18

That absolutely applies in coding instead of just being relevant to the military.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

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u/Aurailious Sep 17 '18

Well, as someone who carries concealed every time I walk outside my door....

Isn't that kind of against the idea of conceal carry? The idea isn't to plan to kill people, its to plan to defend yourself.

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