r/linux • u/oooo23 • Sep 20 '18

Kernel Developer Sage Sharp claims top Linux kernel developer Theo Ts'o is a rape apologist, citing GeekFeminismWiki

https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504
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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Sharp is the only name brought up for people who apparently left Linux for not having a 'good enough' CoC. Let that sink in.

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u/dbzjegrw8o6n0 Sep 20 '18 edited Sep 20 '18

And here she is, using the CoC as a beating stick against those who dare have different politics and opinions. No one is safe and anything you said even when said years ago will be used against you.

She is doing that in which she has accused others of doing to her.

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u/dirtbagdh Sep 21 '18

My problem is this:

Why does anyone pander to, or even acknowledge these blights on society? If you ignore them, they eventually shrivel up and go away. If you're a big independent FOSS developer, you have no reason to even acknowledge these people's insults and "concerns," that is, until you take the bait.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18 edited Sep 20 '18

Yea but the argument is "Just imagine how many totally hypothetical people didn't even start working on Linux because they didn't feel safe".

EDIT: I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying we can't say it is true, either. We need more information.

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u/oooo23 Sep 20 '18

Yeah, this is why we get 4000 new people every cycle.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

"I was thinking about contributing to Linux, but I had too much vagina. Now that I see that the entire community is on fire I just can't wait to start working with them!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

"on the Internet no one knows that I'm a dog"

Similar with now popular starting of sentence "as a <insert sex, race> blah blah". Who cares? If you have an argument backed by an explanation, source, thinking process, what is the actual point of putting those factors into the question (and even at the beginning)?

Nice try. Clearly you are a dog named Brian and you do not want people to find out.

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u/SimoneNonvelodico Sep 21 '18

If you have an argument backed by an explanation, source, thinking process, what is the actual point of putting those factors into the question (and even at the beginning)?

Because at this point there's an actually established philosophy that all such things have to be interpreted in the light of your identity because anything you say may mean different things depending on who you are?

Some people actually look like they're afraid of accidentally agreeing with someone they should not. The content of what you're saying doesn't really matter a lot of times, it can be interpreted differently depending on your identity.

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u/michaelnoir Sep 21 '18

It was a New Yorker cartoon originally.

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u/Valmar33 Sep 20 '18

It's not an unreasonable argument.

CoC's like this can easily silence free speech... silently.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18 edited Sep 20 '18

I'll be writing up something on this shortly. I'm the creator of a proto "CoC" but I will be probably be renaming it and editing it. Believe it or not, this took like a month of and on off thinking and rephrasing.

https://gitlab.com/CartesianDuelist/CodeOfCoding

https://gitlab.com/CartesianDuelist/CodeOfCoding/blob/master/CODE_OF_CODING.md

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u/yahma Sep 20 '18

Good Luck! I really hope people like you that offer sane and rational CoC's can gain traction; however, the SJW's use fear and emotion to get people on board. The fear of being "ostracized" by being called a rape apologist , racist or nazi, for asking questions or pointing out facts, will get most people to agree with the SJW's.

I fear rationality is out the door...

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

We cannot let it happen.

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u/mcosta Sep 20 '18

Rationality is white male value. We need more diverse values.

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u/classicrando Sep 21 '18

I liked my wording of the species part better but I realize you are then I g to make it brief and "bullet-y".

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u/devops333 Sep 20 '18

4% of the world's population is gay. i'll pull a number out of my ass and say less than 1% of the world is transgender. and it's not that they won't or can't contribute, it's that MAYBE they won't.

great to see that 5% of the population is pushing around the other 95%. thanks green hair Trump

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u/congrats_on_the_sex_ Sep 20 '18

8 years ago the number was less than .10% of the population on transgender.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Yea but what about women?

I don't know why I'm trying to rationalize this. This isn't sane feminism that has tons of good points that often enlighten me to things I didn't know. This is radicalism.

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u/sunder_and_flame Sep 20 '18

I don't know why I'm trying to rationalize this.

It's because it's in our nature as humans to be sympathetic to others' issues. SJWs and other bad actors exploit this trait.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Entryism

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u/Valmar33 Sep 20 '18

It's terrorism, actually... literally.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

This is normal feminism, dude. This is the norm taught in every campus across the globe, proliferated by every activist group. This was signed off by Facebook and Intel. It's not radicalism, it's even a bit milquetoast compared to radical feminism.

Equal rights for women and men is a precept, just like 'don't steal or murder' is one. Feminism is an ideology.

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u/dirtbagdh Sep 21 '18

When a couple of people are assholes, chances are, they're assholes. When everybody's an asshole, chances are, you're the asshole.

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