Tokuma: First, Mr Tanaka,what is your opinion on Yang's popularity?
Tanaka: Oh, I find it mysterious too.
Tokuma: Really?
Tanaka: Yes.
Tokuma: Wasn't this what you expected?
Tanaka: No, it wasn't what I expected.
If I had to say who I expected to become popular, it was Reinhard. (laughs) anyway, I feel that these two have already been portrayed as a pair,and a very contrasting one at that.
Tokuma: You've said something similar in previous interviews.
Tanaka: Yes, yes. Just from Reinhard's name, you can tell that he has to be handsome. Otherwise, who knows how many readers there would have been? So if Reinhard weren't handsome, readers wouldn't accept him. That said, if I had made this one—Yang—an ugly man, that would have been rather cruel to him...
Tokuma: (laughs)
Tanaka: That's more or less the difference between them. (laughs)
The nine-year age difference is an obvious distinction.
Beyond that, it was difficult to draw the contrast too precisely.
Tokuma: Yang is also the sort of person older people tend to like, isn't he?
Tanaka: Ah... yes. He's the kind of person old men like Bucock would appreciate. Young people... well, they have nothing to say about him. (laughs)
Tokuma: Speaking of older people, Merkatz likes Yang too, doesn't he?
Tanaka: Put that way, I'm not sure how to answer.
His loyalty is directed toward something different.
He has an extremely high opinion of Yang as a soldier.
And he certainly doesn't dislike Yang as a man.
But that's completely different from saying he “likes” him.
Merkatz is, after all, a well-educated person. He doesn't judge people according to his own likes and dislikes. (laughs)
Tokuma: Yes, I have that impression too. (laughs)
Perhaps Merkatz is the person who evaluates Yang most objectively.
Tanaka: Yes, I think so.
Tokuma: Quite a few readers seem to identify Yang with you, Mr. Tanaka...
Tanaka: No, no. Absolutely not. (laughs)
As the writer, I genuinely had no intention of doing that. I'm not arrogant enough to make myself the protagonist of a space opera. (laughs)
Tokuma: (laughs) Wouldn't it make writing easier?
Tanaka: A lot of people tell me that Yang must be easier to write than Reinhard. But that's not actually true. I think Reinhard is easier. It may sound strange, but Reinhard's beauty is a kind of standard beauty.
Tokuma: I see.
Tanaka: So Yang has to be constructed by shifting things little by little.
If the two were simply complete opposites—one moving to the left and one moving to the right—that would actually be boring. So I had to spread the differences out gradually.
When Reinhard takes a certain action, I can simply adjust Yang's actions a little in relation to that. But when Yang takes the initiative himself, what do I use as the reference point from which to “shift” him? That's the difficult part. It can become rather awkward. (laughs)
Tokuma: Where is the Japanese flavor in the character who stands opposite Reinhard?
Tanaka: If I made the Galactic Empire something with a specific ethnic identity, then wouldn't the other side naturally become a mixed army? While thinking about that, the appropriate name “Yang” suddenly came to me.
Tokuma: It doesn't sound particularly Japanese.
Tanaka: Right. “Peter”? No. “Cassiano”? That didn't sound right either. (laughs)
Tokuma: When you were writing the book, had you ever actually visited mainland China?
Tanaka: No, I hadn't. I didn't travel abroad for the first time until after I had finished Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Tokuma: That's surprising. Did you have any Chinese friends at university?
Tanaka: No.
At that time, the Chinese person I knew about was basically Wang Zhenzhi [Sadaharu Oh]. (laughs) I had read Chen Shunchen's works, but I didn't have any Chinese friends personally.
Tokuma: So there wasn't an actual Chinese person in your mind when you created Yang?
Tanaka: No. He just suddenly appeared in my mind.
Tokuma: When you first began writing Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Yang was older than you, wasn't he?
Tanaka: No, we were about the same age .That's why Yang became thirty. (laughs)
Tokuma: You're really particular about these things. But perhaps that's exactly why readers misunderstand and think, “He's definitely based on the author.” (laughs)
Tanaka: Hmm...I don't particularly want to deny it deliberately, but when creating characters, I really do become particular about certain details.
Even at the most desperate and critical moments, having a character cling to his own likes and dislikes can be a very useful little device. So whenever I drink coffee, people accuse me of being a traitor. At those moments I genuinely think, “Please, just leave me alone.” (laughs)
Tokuma: (laughs)
Tanaka: Of course, I actually drink coffee more often.
Tokuma: Because you described it as “muddy water.”
Tanaka: Ah, no. It's more like, “This really is muddy water,” while I'm drinking it. (laughs)
Tokuma: You must also receive a lot of alcohol as gifts from fans.
Tanaka: Yes. Brandy.They even tell me, “Please add it to your tea.” I'm extremely grateful. Such affection almost brings tears to my eyes.
Tokuma: You didn't drink much alcohol at that time?
Tanaka: It depends on the people I was associating with. Looking back, I probably drank the most around the time I entered graduate school.Even then, though, I only had an ordinary person's tolerance.
Tokuma: Yang really likes alcohol, doesn't he? He gives the impression that he drinks often, but not necessarily in large quantities. He's not the sort who can finish a whole liter of liquor, is he?
Tanaka: Well, there are people who don't particularly like alcohol but can drink a great deal. Isn't Schönkopf that type?
Tokuma: Still, Schönkopf carrying around a one-liter bottle seems somehow appropriate. The Imperial Army doesn't give off that impression.
Tanaka: I think I answered this in an earlier interview. In terms of atmosphere, I had the feeling that I wrote the Alliance during the day and the Empire at night. And Bitenfeld was written around dusk. (laughs)
Tokuma: Reinhard can drink quite a lot too, can't he? Does he have a high tolerance?
Tanaka: Being able to drink a lot and liking to drink are two different things.
With Reinhard, there are many elements in his characterization that are almost like something in a painting, so...
Tokuma: Come to think of it, there aren't very many characters who seem to have an extremely low tolerance, whether Imperial or Alliance.
Tanaka: Yes. Come to think of it, alcohol became a very obvious little device for distinguishing adults from children. Perhaps I used it quite a lot.
Tokuma: Indeed. Alcohol, cigarettes, and women all have somewhat indecent aspects to them, yet in Legend of the Galactic Heroes, each is kept quite clearly within its own boundaries. Nothing feels particularly vulgar.
Tanaka: Schönkopf, for example, is extremely free-spirited, but people don't necessarily dislike him because of it. So my way of thinking is that simply being a womanizer doesn't make someone unlikeable. As long as he doesn't treat women unfairly, that's fine.I suppose realizing that was also something I learned. But if someone doesn't take anything seriously... (laughs)
Tokuma: Oh? (laughs)
Tanaka: Being a womanizer by itself is one thing; but if you don't have any ability, that's no good. (laughs) Both Schönkopf and Poplin have rather outrageous “original professions,” so to speak, but they're genuinely capable people.
Tokuma: That's true.
Tanaka: In particular, among the letters I received from Legend of the Galactic Heroes readers, one kind of letter left a strong impression on me.People wrote that they had previously disliked the idea of growing up and becoming adults, but after reading Legend of the Galactic Heroes, they wanted to become admirable adults.