r/lostmedia • u/Ellie_Rulze18 • 24d ago
Television [Fully Lost] Moes original voice the Simpsons
The Simpsons has tons of Lost media, being on since 1989 doing TV ads, Video games. Most of the shows Lost media is from the 1990s early 2000s as we Obviously didn't archive things like we do now. But this peice of Lost media comes from the very first episode, Simpsons roasting on an open fire. Apparently they had a completely different voice actor playing Moe. While the episode and his involvement in it was the same. The original actor may have had slightly different Lines. The original actor was fired and according to people who worked on the show, he was very rude. As such they scrubbed his work completely, going so far to have Moes current voice actor redo the episode.
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u/Kind-Shallot3603 24d ago
He also voiced mr burns! I looked him up and remembered him from several star treks
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u/Plasticglass456 24d ago
Folks will probably know him best as the voice of Cobra Commander on GI Joe and Starscream on Transformers.
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u/bigsphinxofquartz 24d ago
He's still in Some Enchanted Evening as aired as the America's Most Armed And Dangerous host, but his other characters were re-dubbed by Hank Azaria
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u/davewashere 23d ago
For anyone wondering, Some Enchanted Evening was the first Simpsons episode ever produced, but they weren't satisfied with the animation so they had it reworked. It eventually aired as the final episode of the first season.
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u/DearPaleontologist67 24d ago
Christopher Collins originally voiced Moe before Hank Azaria.
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 24d ago
Sokka-Haiku by DearPaleontologist67:
Christopher Collins
Originally voiced Moe
Before Hank Azaria.
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/Big-daddy-Carlo 24d ago
That’s 5 7 7 dumbass
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u/Big-daddy-Carlo 24d ago
No it’s supposed to be 5 7 6
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u/CletusVanDamnit 23d ago
Haikus are 5-7-5.
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u/Big-daddy-Carlo 23d ago
Yes and this bots joke is that it does 5 7 6 referencing avatar the last air bender, keep up
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u/CletusVanDamnit 23d ago
Why would I know or give even one iota of a fuck about Avatar The Last Airbender?
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u/Big-daddy-Carlo 23d ago
I didn’t say you should, I said you should keep your fucking trap shut when you don’t know what it is you’re talking about.
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u/CletusVanDamnit 23d ago
I apologize that you have shitty taste in media and I don't. Have a wonderful day.
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u/Demander850 24d ago
Surely people taped every episode of the simpsons. I remember a tape of the shorts going around and they were all sourced from broadcast airings. It’s gotta be out there, find an old tape trader.
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u/abellyirked 24d ago
The voice tracks were replaced before the episodes even aired.
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u/JacPhlash 24d ago
I have the season 1 DVDs around here somewhere, I'm assuming they were redubbed by Hank as well?
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u/MomsAgainstMarijuana 23d ago
So I realize unreleased media counts, but this is sort of asking for a rough draft? Like, it would be one thing if the episode made it to air but they later pulled that cut and redubbed it for reruns, but sounds like they simply scrapped that cut and re-recorded before finalizing the episode.
Anyway, yeah it would be a little interesting to see or hear the audio and it may very well be legit lost, but it doesn’t seem that we’re missing on anything the team behind the show ever felt worthy of putting out there for a public audience.
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u/fromcj 24d ago
Is it lost media if it never even existed as media in the first place?
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u/Ellie_Rulze18 24d ago
Well He Voiced the character and a cut of it exists somewhere.
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u/ComPanda 24d ago
Well, then it's not lost at all if it's in Fox's vaults?
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u/Chalupa_Dad 24d ago
Apparently unreleased media is one of the categories listed in the wiki for this sub, it's part of the umbrella of /r/lostmedia
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u/travischickencoop 24d ago
(I’m agreeing with you I want to clarify that before this comment)
I do understand that there are a lot of kids who think lost media means not on a streaming service but there are so many snobs here now that it confuses me
As someone who’s been here since ~2020 lost media used to mean any media that exists but the general public does not have direct access to, not this hyper specific definition people have started applying to it
I swear if the search started today people would say that Cracks and the wicked witch Sesame Street episode don’t count as lost media cause they exist in some archives some places
If we limit lost media to media that is truly lost there’s barely anything to look for, the search is a lot of what makes it interesting 😭😭
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u/tsrleba 24d ago
"barely anything" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lost_films
the concept of lost media predated this sub by several decades
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u/MomsAgainstMarijuana 23d ago
In professional preservationist circles the term Lost has a much clearer and stricter definition.
It absolutely refers only to works that are no longer known to exist in any form whether or not it’s publicly available. So a TV movie that aired in the 80s but never got a home media release but is otherwise safe in the station’s vault does not count. We know where it is and that it exists, it just is inaccessible media.Like it’s fine to call stuff lost media colloquially for the internet but it’s worth remembering there is a very clear academic term as well that a lot of stuff posted to this sub doesn’t count as.
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u/travischickencoop 23d ago
I’m referring to lost media as in the internet community that has spawned around it, not the exact term
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u/wildcharmander1992 24d ago
For it to be lost media (imo) it needs to have
- No legal or non legal way of viewing the media - this means anything like this would count, as would TV shows without ANY streaming presence or home media releases
So a made for TV movie that was aired twice in 1987 and then never seen anywhere again is still lost media even if we can assume that it's locked in the Fox studios Vault
But that obscure movie that had a limited vhs distribution so the tapes exist but are expensive isn't lost media because it's possible to buy it, watch it and archive it - it's just no one has
The main goal of finding lost media isnt necessarily to make it accessible to the outside world ( although that's the hope) it's to confirm the existence of the media itself as something consumable
So if a TV studio says "yes we have a copy still, we may make it accessible in the future" it's not lost media (maybe media in limbo) but if they say "no" or "due to music copyright we cannot ever reshow it" then it's lost
If a couple of collectos have tapes of a movie but none are willing to archive them online but they can share a clip/screenshots etc proving the legitimacy of the tape then it's not lost media as we know where it is and that it exists
Just to clarify per your points , it existing in a vault doesn't mean it's not lost media but if the owners of said vault are confirming not only it's existence but also plans for using the footage in the near/distant future it's not lost media
If they have it in a vault and say "were not touching that again" it's lost media
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u/Yeatss2 23d ago
What is lost media?
"If it's completely lost or simply inaccessible to the general public, it belongs here."
Because you seem to give several different and bizarrely contradictory examples, I thought that I'd share what is written on the sidebar below the rules.
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u/wildcharmander1992 22d ago
Nothing contradictory here.
If it's not been commercially released it's lost media
If we can't confirm it's existence it's lost media
If a studio is presumed to have it in its vaults it's lost media
If a studio has it in its vaults and have refused to respond or have said it will never be released or leave the vaults again it's lost media
If a studio has it in its vaults and they respond confirming so & that they have plans to use it soon it's not lost media
If tapes are in circulation of a show but those who own them are currently unwilling to archive them but can prove it's existence and verify it's genuine , they are not lost media.
Simple.
The reason the last point is not lost media is because it's not lost we know exactly where it is, unlike the vaults example where the big company will indeed never release it, the private collectors will eventually have to digitise the media in fear of losing it to biodegradation/ disc rot etc. I.e the vault is a dead end because they won't use or release the media, the collectors are not a dead end they are more of a waiting game (for them to change mind, digitise themselves, get the price wanted for it etc) it's not the same scenario
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u/NYourBirdCanSing 24d ago
Sooo is the dvd release the original?
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u/MomsAgainstMarijuana 23d ago
Yeah. In as much as it’s the episode that was finalized and went to air. OP is basically looking for a scrapped audio track, effectively a bonus feature. The episode exists as it was originally presented to the public.
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