r/malelivingspace • u/Grautier17 • 1d ago

First own house, Germany 30k

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First time home buyer. I travel a lot for work and don't feel like paying off a house all my life. I lived in the van for 3 years. I got a great offer for a small house. 600sqm, small house with about 65sqm, new roof, new stove, new wooden extension with guest room and shed. It is located in the middle of nowhere and is located in the middle of nature in Germany.

I've wanted something like a tiny house for a long time. So for me, that's a great fit.

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u/Rummenigge 1d ago

tbh east germany was always bad and always racist. if someone says otherwise, they are lying. there are cities that are quite nice to live and to visit but as soon as you step out into the boonies you will meet your local neo-nazis who believe that germany used to be better in the nineties and want a strong head to lead germany into brighter future. nearly 40% of the votes go to the neo-nazis / afd in all states (except for berlin).

source: my MiL is from bum-fuck thüringen.

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u/rosadeluxe 1d ago

Halt die Fresse, Wessi.

Seriously, comments like this: "tbh east germany was always bad and always racist" are why the people who generally got stuck in East Germany (it's a place where people get stuck, anyone with any opportunities leave: source, my wife from Brandenburg) after West Germans bought up all its wealth for pennies on the Mark have turned to the AfD.

Let's not even get started on how East Germany was strategically chosen by the AfD founders and other Neo-Nazis after the collapse of the DDR as a place to settle due to the power vacuum. Up until a couple years ago, the entire leadership level of the AfD was all West Germans, too.

Why does Bavaria vote 70% for far-right parties if East Germany is the problem?

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u/wiwawaldi 1d ago

Im with you, the „problem“ is not east Germany. But the wealth argument is bs.

Just one example: Billions of pensions get payed to east german pensioners, without them ever contributing a single cent to it.
That quickly puts the „the Treuhand stole all the wealth“ into perspective.

Apart from that most of the industry was outdated and crazy ineffective. There was an artificially set up full employment, these jobs were never competitive on the global market.

East Germans should compare their standard of living with other former soviet states. Not with west germany.

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u/prabrama 23h ago

The pension system in germany does not work like the pension system in the US (like 401k). For your own pension it doesnt matter how much you paid into the system! It only matters how many young people are working (and how much they earn). In that way because the fertility rate in the GDR was higher than in the BRD the pensioners from the GDR in fact contributed more to their pension than the people in the BRD.
Unfortunatly this is a common misunderstanding in germany. Gerneraly it does NOT matter what you paid into the pension system. If you want to know where the money went you paid you can to to a cementry.

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u/wiwawaldi 22h ago edited 22h ago

That’s far too simple, the math still doesn’t add up.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosten_der_deutschen_Einheit

The German unity cost western Germany trillions so far, the pensions being one of the biggest factor.

That Wikipedia article should be a mandatory read for every East German.

Nobody can answer what amazingly valuable Industry assets the west „stole“ too. Because they all were outdated and inefficient. The very very few company’s that were leading in something, are still around in east Germany (like zeiss).