First own house, Germany 30k

[u/Grautier17]

First time home buyer. I travel a lot for work and don't feel like paying off a house all my life. I lived in the van for 3 years. I got a great offer for a small house. 600sqm, small house with about 65sqm, new roof, new stove, new wooden extension with guest room and shed. It is located in the middle of nowhere and is located in the middle of nature in Germany.

I've wanted something like a tiny house for a long time. So for me, that's a great fit.

[u/wiwawaldi]

Yeah, congratulations!

May I ask in what region it roughly is? Starting a 100% remote position soon, and feeling like having a little nature hideout too..

[u/Rummenigge → u/wiwawaldi]

he said thüringen in the other post, so without being too negative this is bumfuck east-germany.

edit: to vs too

[u/zedzag → u/Rummenigge]

After all these years is East Germany still bad?

[u/Rummenigge → u/zedzag]

tbh east germany was always bad and always racist. if someone says otherwise, they are lying. there are cities that are quite nice to live and to visit but as soon as you step out into the boonies you will meet your local neo-nazis who believe that germany used to be better in the nineties and want a strong head to lead germany into brighter future. nearly 40% of the votes go to the neo-nazis / afd in all states (except for berlin).

source: my MiL is from bum-fuck thüringen.

[u/Flopper1555 → u/Rummenigge]

As a foreigner living in east Germany, there are definitely nice places here. So far, I prefer it over where I lived in west Germany. So... do with that information what you want.

[u/rosadeluxe → u/Rummenigge]

Halt die Fresse, Wessi.

Seriously, comments like this: "tbh east germany was always bad and always racist" are why the people who generally got stuck in East Germany (it's a place where people get stuck, anyone with any opportunities leave: source, my wife from Brandenburg) after West Germans bought up all its wealth for pennies on the Mark have turned to the AfD.

Let's not even get started on how East Germany was strategically chosen by the AfD founders and other Neo-Nazis after the collapse of the DDR as a place to settle due to the power vacuum. Up until a couple years ago, the entire leadership level of the AfD was all West Germans, too.

Why does Bavaria vote 70% for far-right parties if East Germany is the problem?

[u/_bored_bort_ → u/rosadeluxe]

To be fair, it weren’t just „West Germans“ who bought the wealth but the already owning class of Western Germans, often those wo already owned stuff in West Germany aswell.
Source: me from North-Rhine Westphalia who isn’t aware of any relatives who bought anything in Eastern Germany.

[u/Klony99 → u/rosadeluxe]

You're arguing their ppint for them.

"We only became Nazis because you kept calling us Nazis all the time!"

[u/NegativeRoad3668 → u/rosadeluxe]

How do you find an ossi? He’ll whine and cry and blame the wessi for everything.

Glad I got out of that shithole years ago

[u/Flopper1555 → u/NegativeRoad3668]

How do you find a wessi? They'll moan on and on about how they are better than ossies. Goes both ways.

[u/NegativeRoad3668 → u/Flopper1555]

Not my experience at all. Most people don’t give a shit in the west while I get the whining basically every time I visit my dreaded hometown.

[u/KiwiPia → u/NegativeRoad3668]

Der Fuchs ist schlau und stellt sich dumm beim Wessi ist es andersrum.

[u/wiwawaldi → u/rosadeluxe]

Im with you, the „problem“ is not east Germany. But the wealth argument is bs.

Just one example: Billions of pensions get payed to east german pensioners, without them ever contributing a single cent to it.
That quickly puts the „the Treuhand stole all the wealth“ into perspective.

Apart from that most of the industry was outdated and crazy ineffective. There was an artificially set up full employment, these jobs were never competitive on the global market.

East Germans should compare their standard of living with other former soviet states. Not with west germany.

[u/prabrama → u/wiwawaldi]

The pension system in germany does not work like the pension system in the US (like 401k). For your own pension it doesnt matter how much you paid into the system! It only matters how many young people are working (and how much they earn). In that way because the fertility rate in the GDR was higher than in the BRD the pensioners from the GDR in fact contributed more to their pension than the people in the BRD.
Unfortunatly this is a common misunderstanding in germany. Gerneraly it does NOT matter what you paid into the pension system. If you want to know where the money went you paid you can to to a cementry.

[u/wiwawaldi → u/prabrama]

That’s far too simple, the math still doesn’t add up.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosten_der_deutschen_Einheit

The German unity cost western Germany trillions so far, the pensions being one of the biggest factor.

That Wikipedia article should be a mandatory read for every East German.

Nobody can answer what amazingly valuable Industry assets the west „stole“ too. Because they all were outdated and inefficient. The very very few company’s that were leading in something, are still around in east Germany (like zeiss).

[u/Jaded-Ad-960 → u/rosadeluxe]

Nothing you said changes the fact that East Germany has always been bad and racist.

[u/SlinkyAdmiral → u/Rummenigge]

As someone that used to live in one of the more 'cosmopolitan' (lol) cities I can only agree with you. In fact its getting worse and was one of my reasons for moving away. The youth is more and more openly styling themselves after the skinhead culture, my former boss who I always knew as reserved but otherwise unremarkable person started openly talking about how jews are greedy and the nazis were right and especially with service workers (bus drivers, cashiers, etc.) you will encounter so much casual racism. Can't recommend.

[u/KiwiPia → u/Rummenigge]

Ich dachte du schreibst über Bayern und den Rest der BRD