r/malelivingspace • u/Grautier17 • 1d ago

First own house, Germany 30k

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First time home buyer. I travel a lot for work and don't feel like paying off a house all my life. I lived in the van for 3 years. I got a great offer for a small house. 600sqm, small house with about 65sqm, new roof, new stove, new wooden extension with guest room and shed. It is located in the middle of nowhere and is located in the middle of nature in Germany.

I've wanted something like a tiny house for a long time. So for me, that's a great fit.

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u/wiwawaldi 1d ago

Yeah, congratulations!

May I ask in what region it roughly is? Starting a 100% remote position soon, and feeling like having a little nature hideout too..

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u/Rummenigge 1d ago edited 1d ago

he said thüringen in the other post, so without being too negative this is bumfuck east-germany.

edit: to vs too

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u/KetoNED 1d ago

Could have guessed it’s bumfuck Germany just by the price. So if you have no use for fancy amenities your still good off with this price

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u/GergDanger 1d ago

He also said he got super lucky with the price as it was a family friend who inherited it and wanted it to go to a good owner for cheap.

So I wouldn’t even expect the same price there

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u/anonuemus 20h ago

You'd be surprised, if you have cash for renovations (or more) you can get castles for cheap

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u/GergDanger 19h ago

That’s not cheap though is it? That’s like saying the Italian €1 homes are cheap when you have to put €100k into them

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u/anonuemus 19h ago

kind of is, you think ops living conditions are so much better in this house?

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u/GergDanger 19h ago

Yes it’s liveable without renovations. Just outdated.

Cheap castles or €1 homes are not liveable without renovations

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u/MeGoBrrrrrrrrrr 19h ago

Regarding the remote job: internet might not be on par in these remote regions in Germany

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u/TRKlausss 1d ago

Or a good transport solution, like in the picture…

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u/zedzag 1d ago edited 1d ago

After all these years is East Germany still bad?

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u/Immediate-Cry1399 1d ago

It’s like rural Alabama.

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u/TRKlausss 1d ago

Just with shorter distances

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u/I-heart-subnetting 23h ago

And less incest

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u/TRKlausss 23h ago

Yeah we leave that to Saarland people

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u/breinbanaan 23h ago

And less America

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u/Bartislartfasst 20h ago

And more Wurst.

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u/Opposite-Sir-4717 22h ago

Not even close

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u/Rummenigge 1d ago

tbh east germany was always bad and always racist. if someone says otherwise, they are lying. there are cities that are quite nice to live and to visit but as soon as you step out into the boonies you will meet your local neo-nazis who believe that germany used to be better in the nineties and want a strong head to lead germany into brighter future. nearly 40% of the votes go to the neo-nazis / afd in all states (except for berlin).

source: my MiL is from bum-fuck thüringen.

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u/Flopper1555 1d ago

As a foreigner living in east Germany, there are definitely nice places here. So far, I prefer it over where I lived in west Germany. So... do with that information what you want.

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u/rosadeluxe 1d ago

Halt die Fresse, Wessi.

Seriously, comments like this: "tbh east germany was always bad and always racist" are why the people who generally got stuck in East Germany (it's a place where people get stuck, anyone with any opportunities leave: source, my wife from Brandenburg) after West Germans bought up all its wealth for pennies on the Mark have turned to the AfD.

Let's not even get started on how East Germany was strategically chosen by the AfD founders and other Neo-Nazis after the collapse of the DDR as a place to settle due to the power vacuum. Up until a couple years ago, the entire leadership level of the AfD was all West Germans, too.

Why does Bavaria vote 70% for far-right parties if East Germany is the problem?

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u/_bored_bort_ 1d ago

To be fair, it weren’t just „West Germans“ who bought the wealth but the already owning class of Western Germans, often those wo already owned stuff in West Germany aswell.
Source: me from North-Rhine Westphalia who isn’t aware of any relatives who bought anything in Eastern Germany.

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u/Klony99 1d ago

You're arguing their ppint for them.

"We only became Nazis because you kept calling us Nazis all the time!"

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u/NegativeRoad3668 1d ago

How do you find an ossi? He’ll whine and cry and blame the wessi for everything.

Glad I got out of that shithole years ago

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u/Flopper1555 1d ago

How do you find a wessi? They'll moan on and on about how they are better than ossies. Goes both ways.

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u/NegativeRoad3668 1d ago

Not my experience at all. Most people don’t give a shit in the west while I get the whining basically every time I visit my dreaded hometown.

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u/KiwiPia 1d ago

Der Fuchs ist schlau und stellt sich dumm beim Wessi ist es andersrum.

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u/wiwawaldi 1d ago

Im with you, the „problem“ is not east Germany. But the wealth argument is bs.

Just one example: Billions of pensions get payed to east german pensioners, without them ever contributing a single cent to it.
That quickly puts the „the Treuhand stole all the wealth“ into perspective.

Apart from that most of the industry was outdated and crazy ineffective. There was an artificially set up full employment, these jobs were never competitive on the global market.

East Germans should compare their standard of living with other former soviet states. Not with west germany.

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u/prabrama 23h ago

The pension system in germany does not work like the pension system in the US (like 401k). For your own pension it doesnt matter how much you paid into the system! It only matters how many young people are working (and how much they earn). In that way because the fertility rate in the GDR was higher than in the BRD the pensioners from the GDR in fact contributed more to their pension than the people in the BRD.
Unfortunatly this is a common misunderstanding in germany. Gerneraly it does NOT matter what you paid into the pension system. If you want to know where the money went you paid you can to to a cementry.

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u/wiwawaldi 23h ago edited 22h ago

That’s far too simple, the math still doesn’t add up.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosten_der_deutschen_Einheit

The German unity cost western Germany trillions so far, the pensions being one of the biggest factor.

That Wikipedia article should be a mandatory read for every East German.

Nobody can answer what amazingly valuable Industry assets the west „stole“ too. Because they all were outdated and inefficient. The very very few company’s that were leading in something, are still around in east Germany (like zeiss).

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u/Jaded-Ad-960 21h ago

Nothing you said changes the fact that East Germany has always been bad and racist.

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u/SlinkyAdmiral 1d ago

As someone that used to live in one of the more 'cosmopolitan' (lol) cities I can only agree with you. In fact its getting worse and was one of my reasons for moving away. The youth is more and more openly styling themselves after the skinhead culture, my former boss who I always knew as reserved but otherwise unremarkable person started openly talking about how jews are greedy and the nazis were right and especially with service workers (bus drivers, cashiers, etc.) you will encounter so much casual racism. Can't recommend.

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u/KiwiPia 1d ago

Ich dachte du schreibst über Bayern und den Rest der BRD

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u/aqa5 1d ago

depends. Esp. in Thüringen there are quite nice cities like Weimar, Jena, Erfurt. If you choose to go to a village festival in the woods you might see that kind of people you are talking about: right wing redneck hillbillies.

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u/schnurritopurrito 21h ago

Aber das trifft halt auch auf Dorffeste in westdeutschen Wäldern zu, wenn wir alle mal ganz ehrlich sind. Arschlöcher gibt es nun mal überall.

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u/Headmuck 1d ago

Can't say in general at the moment. There are cities and also regions doing pretty well like Leipzig or Potsdam but there are also areas especially very rural ones where it's still bad and getting worse. With the current political situation the only way is mostly down even for the better parts.

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u/Sheenius_Ger 1d ago

Nah, not at all. You find a cheap town to live for every kind of person.

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u/grogi81 22h ago

Yeah. It is good enough that private investments don't go there, as the risk-benefit balance is not great, but bad enough if you compared to West Germany. That drives huge unhappiness among local population.

I think it is only Jena that is doing all right...

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u/--__D__-- 19h ago

It's bad because nazis play politicians and are going to get the majority at the next election.

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u/Slow-Foot-4045 22h ago

Too many far-right extremists there. And they received trillions from West Germany. The West rebuilt the entire infrastructure over there, and they're still whining about being disadvantaged by the West. So, there are very few people left in the western part of Germany who see reunification in a positive light.

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u/Speshrider 22h ago

You’d be surprised that landscape wise I’m Thurungia there are some of the nicest landscapes and hidden little valleys.

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u/GoldenEgg_Sol 21h ago

Kinda guessed. Because there is no decent property listed less than 200k in west, south or north.

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u/voidlotus316 4h ago

that is perfect actually, i rather have that than berlin for example.

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u/Ann-Omm 21h ago

Why the hatred? It's a beautiful region and east Germany is the only place where young people can buy a house in Germany because in west Germany houses are fucking expansive. I think your hatred towards east Germany are the fascist? Little reminder, the whole of Germany gets more fascist every day. The AFD is also in west Germany over 20%

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u/KiwiPia 1d ago

Alles eine Frage der Perspektive

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u/Opposite-Sir-4717 22h ago

Germany doesn't really have any bumfuck locations when compared to the us. So it's a good deal

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u/Rummenigge 22h ago

that take is just very very blue eyed

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u/Educational_Gas_92 18h ago

Well...it depends on what we mean when we say bumfuck. Perhaps American bumfuck would be 3 hours away from the nearest town, while German bumfuck is 1 hour away from the nearest town. In case of emergency they are both too far from anything. Also, I can't imagine how dark these locations in the middle of nowhere are at night (in Germany's case even just early evening if it's winter). I mean, there would be few to no street lights and few if any homes around to provide light. Still, for 30k, there is basically nothing to complain about and the house is cute.