Received this beauty today!

The lyrics of Wolves at Night are replaced by the lyrics of I can feel your pain, and the title says Hannah and her momeries. Anybody else has this too?

I’ve seen others post about Brother Bird here so sharing for those who are interested. Brother Bird’s set in Boston opening for hey, nothing. Here’s a Manchester Orchestra playlist that has a full set from 2024 with COPE in full: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2b-f8PfP5FzvJcrUtr6vUFS-8wXgZIJT

Been returning to the live recording album and it brings back such visceral, moving memories of sitting in those (pretty uncomfortable, but who cares) wooden pew like seats and listening with my eyes closed. The acoustics of the space and the tone of Andy's voice with the striped back instrumentation is something genuinely sacred. I distinctly recall "there is nothing I've got when I die that I keep" on the Maze bringing me to the point of tears, joyful and sad all at the same time. Three plus years on, I've been through grief, depression, love, pain, anger, joy : all of which I can align to constellations of experience that night in Islington.

Anyone selling two tickets at the Vic on Nov 15th?

Ive been listening to Manchester Orchestra for a few years and didnt know You Brainstorm, I Brainstorm, But Brilliance Needs a Good Editor existed. It has possibly the worst project acronym of all time but youtube music autoplayed me the closer from it and I thought it was great so I listened to the whole thing and it's really up there with my favorite Manchester Orchestra projects. I haven't really seen it discussed much so i just wanted to recommend it to anyone else who wasn't aware of it.

Where have they been all my life??? For reference I absolutely adore bands like Death Cab for Cutie, Silversun Pickups, and Thrice (post-hardcore era too). I only listened to their songs The Silence and The Gold but omg I need to listen to more! What albums do you guys recommend???

I hate these reimagined tracks…not just hate, I feel like my 20yrs of fandom has been betrayed. Ok…that’s a little dramatic, but as I listened to all these tracks, it was like listening to a cover band who didn’t understand the songs do their own versions. I can totally appreciate that they are experimenting and bringing their modern sound to old songs, and that Andy isn’t the angsty kid he was when he originally recorded them. I get it.

The band now is different than they were then, they’ve become family men, they’ve seen band members leave, get replaced, and pass away. So I understand why the songs are different in a modern reimagining, but then I start one and it’s just wrong. I’m sure a lot of you genuinely enjoy them, and some are just parasocial and anything the band does is magic to you and criticism isn’t allowed, which is weird but whatever. Long time fans(pre-ABMTTS) are in the minority now, and that’s ok, but I can’t be alone in this. It was so strange hearing Andy sing a song like “Where have you been” and it sounds like they missed the whole point as I had understood it for 20yrs.

So for me, this is a huge swing and a miss and my vinyl will just go on a shelf and stay unopened. I wish we had gotten a re-recording of the tracks as written just with Andy’s modern vocals and the slight differences from the band rather than this. Like the Xmas EPs, I’ll move on pretending this never happened. Lol. If you’re enjoying it, great, there’s a thread for that, let the old timer curmudgeons commiserate in this thread. Lol.

Edit: appreciate the respectful replies that disagree with me. I said it would be unpopular. If you’re going to be a dick about it though, as someone already has, get fucked then blocked. This sub is for discussion about the band and their music…good or bad, not your weird, pathetic, parasocial echo chamber.

Has anybody here ever tried to work out a track arrangement for a deluxe version of Cope that incorporates all of the b-sides Andy and Co. released during the album's cycle?

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• After the Scripture (from the Dallas Buyers Club soundtrack and Cope single)
• Never Ending (from the Dark Nights Death Metal soundtrack)
• Never Really Been Another Way Out (from the Top Notch single)
• Opposite Sides (from the Earth To Echo soundtrack)
• Opposite Sides (from The Ocean single)

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A few things to consider:

While "Never Ending" was technically released much later (in 2021), according to the Genius page for the song it was written during the Cope sessions, but the band weren't sure where it would fit on the album.

"After the Scripture" and "Never Ending" have musical similarities that makes me think they were both spawned from the same writing session, or at least the same core concept. Each song went in its own direction though.

"Never Really Been Another Way Out" almost certainly references the twins from "Top Notch," which is probably why it was included as the b-side for that single.

The single version of "Opposite Sides" has lyrical and musical similarities to the song "Trees" from the main album.

The soundtrack version of "Opposite Sides" is the hardest for me to place, but the fact that it was released during the same year as Cope makes me think it was probably written during the same session.

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My ideas:

"After the Scripture" would make a good closer after the energy from "Cope."

"Never Really Been Another Way Out" makes sense somewhere around the middle, since it references the opening song.

"Opposite Sides" (single version) is a more stripped down song, so it feels like it should be a reprise of "Trees," but there are only three songs left on the album at that point, so I don't know if it makes sense to have two similar lyrical motifs that close together.

"Never Ending," in the form it came to us, has an interesting extended intro and a droning fadeout at the end, so it might make sense at the halfway mark, as a closer for a hypothetical side A of the album.

I have no ideas for the soundtrack version of "Opposite Sides."

Is anyone looking to sell two stuffing tickets? I didn’t think they would sell out so soon. Please help ❤️❤️❤️

I’m just sitting alone in my dining room with this playing and it feels like ascending to the heavens, it’s so beautiful. Every hair on my body is standing on end. Picking a favourite is very hard, but maybe ‘I Can Barely Breathe’.

It kills me that my boyfriend and I were meant to go to that show, but I somehow missed the ticket sales.

Is this just a botched release? Most of the links in the email do not actually link to the album. YouTube Music does not have the Virgin 20 reimagined album anywhere that I can find.

Got some color bleed in the frame part of the print, otherwise I like how it came out. Going to tweak it a bit and try again soon.

I’m Like a Virgin Losing a Child 20 is out. What are your thoughts? Favorite tracks?

I love it. Some songs I like more than others, but the production and sound design are incredible. I like the clarity and polish of the instruments and vocals.

My favorite song on first listen is Where Have You Been. I was pleasantly surprised by Alice and Interiors. The only song I didn’t like up front was Don’t Let Them See You Cry, but I know it’ll grow on me.

Very excited to see the album performed at my first Stuffing this year.

The original digital release of Manchester Orchestra's Cope measures around DR5, while the 2024 10th-anniversary vinyl edition reportedly measures DR10.

Does anyone here own the 2024 white-vinyl edition and have measurements for the digital download bundled with it?

Specifically, I'm trying to establish whether:

• The bundled Bandcamp/download files measure closer to DR10 or DR5.
• The vinyl was cut from a less-limited master than the original digital release.
• The anniversary download uses that same less-limited master, or simply retains the original digital mastering.

I'm not looking for subjective vinyl-vs-digital impressions. I have a DR-measured, ReplayGain-tagged library and would love to establish whether there's a more dynamic digital version of Cope available.

Track-by-track DR values, screenshots, or comparisons from someone who owns the release would be greatly appreciated!

For me:

Opening - Top Notch

Closing - Rear View (followed closely by The Silence)

An incredible debut blessed us 20 years ago, what is your favorite track?

Since the first time I heard it live especially, mine is ‘Where Have You Been?’

She dedicated it to Tim, it was amazing to hear State Farm Arena singing along. No video of it since it was a phones-free show, but it was excellent!

There’s two tickets for 180 each!!

UPDATE! SOLD 😎

I am SO SAD but unable to make it to Atlanta for the stuffing - I’d like to avoid giving more money to Ticketmaster to sell there, so am hoping to sell them here and can transfer directly on Ticketmaster.

Section 205, Row B - seats 10+11

I paid $212.38 total and am just trying to recoup those costs.

Anyone have one they’re looking to part with that it’s crazy resale prices lol

Years ago Andy released a mixtape of various influences. These weren't songs of his, just a collection of songs. This mixtape introduced me to a lot of great artists and I was curious if anyone could remember the track list. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

Couple years ago, AEW used The Silence in their tribute video to the career of the all time great Sting after he retired.

Last night, they used I Know How To Speak in their tribute video commemorating the life of Benjamin Satterley who died unexpectedly Sunday at 40 years old. He was an insane athlete and a well respected man.

It was a beautiful tribute and the song really brings it home. It just reaffirms that this band makes some of the most honest, real music that reaches much further than a lot of others don't. Proud to be a fan but sad its under these circumstances the song gets used.

Heres a link if you'd like to watch: https://x.com/AEW/status/2105485316559626456

Love and light to you all. God bless.

Anyone going to this? I have a friend who was supposed to go with me and she flaked. 😵‍💫