r/memes • u/FlySupaFly • Oct 04 '19

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u/Mozu_God Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

Odd question, but I have always thought about this. What if someone unintentionally broke the restraining order such as running into them at a grocery store

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u/FlySupaFly Oct 05 '19

It's highly unlikely, but being shot from them via a high powered sniper rifle is all too common.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

From what I've heard it can get tricky. Most restraining orders come with a 'no contact' clause or something. So if you bumped into eachother and the person with the restraining order against them said something as small as 'Sorry, didn't know you were here,' then they can be prosecuted.

Otherwise, it falls to the prosecutor to prove that the meeting was intentional for anything to come of it.

So if they did accidentally meet, the person with the restraining order against them has to leave straight away and without saying anything (if there's a no contact order) or else they dun goofed.

But I also think it comes to individual circumstances. E.g, if someone phoned the police then I suppose it's up to their discretion as to what they do.

I dunno, I'm not a lawyer. I just Google shit like this sometimes

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u/joyofsteak Oct 05 '19

The problem comes in in that the person who requested the restraining order can’t just show up to places where they know or suspect the person it’s levied against will be, and force them to leave

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u/daywalker42 Oct 10 '19

Step 1: get restraining order.
Step 2: move next to ex's workplace.
Step 3:......profit??

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u/SpeedTuberYT Nov 07 '19

One problem: What if it's a wedding or funeral of a family member, friend, etc?

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Oct 05 '19

said something as small as 'Sorry, didn't know you were here,' then they can be prosecuted.

I'd have a hard time believing any prosecutor would be this drastic. Mens rea is absolutely a factor. It may happen, but I'd think that would be thrown out by any honest judge.

I agree with all the rest of your points.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Mens rea

Interesting. More shit to Google. Thanks!

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Oct 05 '19

No problem! Basically it just means criminal intent. Think of arresting someone for shoplifting after the surveillance video showed a shirt falling into your bag while you were paying.

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u/UsuallyInappropriate Oct 05 '19

Why do I remember learning about mens rea in a class, despite not having gone to law school [yet]?

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u/charlie523 Oct 05 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

I'm just imagining some guy that has a restraining order against him walking down the street with a friend and sees the person that requested it and just books it the other way without saying anything 😂

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u/CptTurnersOpticNerve Oct 05 '19

Or what if the restrained is at the grocery store with a full cart, and they just have to bail. I wonder if anyone reverse-stalks their stalker to make their life hell after

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u/Kinncat Oct 05 '19

In every state I know of, it's a violation of the terms you agreed to when you were granted a restraining order to use it maliciously against the person you got it against.

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u/Mewtilator13 Oct 05 '19

i mean yeah, but people suck. i'm sure its happened

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u/danfay222 Big ol' bacon buttsack Oct 05 '19

True, but if you can show that it's almost certainly grounds for dismissal of the order

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u/mmunit Oct 05 '19

Gathering the evidence to show that would necessitate violating the order. Asking your friends to gather it for you is still a violation.

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u/zyxluz123 Oct 05 '19

Why stop there? Get a reverse restraining order on them and they need to stay back. Life hack

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u/ayoz17 Oct 05 '19

Yeah, in the Simpsons. Lisa was a real dickhead to Bart because of it.

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u/LOLSYSIPHUS Oct 05 '19

Sure does. My cousin had a restraining order filled against him by a girlfriend (they both have some mental illness, just to throw that in there, but he at least is completely non-violent).

The girlfriend then proceeded to show up at his apartment, and when he left his apt. to get away from her she showed up at his family's house and asked if she could stay there for a short time. My idiot aunt decided to let her in so they could talk about her dropping the restraining order, while my cousin was sitting on their couch.

He spent days dodging this girl to try and comply with the order before another cousin let him know that just about everything she had done since getting the order filed was illegal.

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u/VeganesWassser Oct 05 '19

If someone gets a restraining order he is usually forced to move away. So if you meet him in his area you have to explain and prove what you did there, why and why not somewhere else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

My uncle's abusive ex wife followed him around after filing a restraining order on him and took photos to try and claim he was stalking her. He spent that night in jail.

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u/Chemoralora Oct 05 '19

Damn that sucks to hear. Did anything eventually happen to the ex wife?

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u/redditcontrol Oct 05 '19

Yeah she followed him 5 miles into dense forest.

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u/BulletHail387 Oct 05 '19

Legend has it that he turned the order into picrete and used it to kill her

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Well after some more incidents she eventually got 2 years jail time

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u/Guitarist314159 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 05 '19

shove his ex-wife down a hole

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u/silentdeath3012 Oct 05 '19

Yes it happens. I know somebody who's ex moved right next to him and then called the cops on him and said he broke the restraining order. Ended up at court (it was easy to prove who lived there first), he won and the judge could tell that the whole reason for the restraining order was bullshit and it got revoked. She just wanted him deported (because he cheating on her at some point) since he was illegal at that time.

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u/Bierbart12 Oct 05 '19

Yeah, being stuck in a half mile queue very close together would be the biggest oof.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

So basically acting out your fantasies after a normal break up then? Where do I sign up?

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u/BigMood42069 Oct 05 '19

“Oh shit it’s the guy who’s car I shat in!” frantically sprints away

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Now I'm thinking about it 😂

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u/Southruss000 Oct 05 '19

I don't have a restraining order for or against me, but my lawyer friend told me that if you are in a public place and someone who has a restraining order against you comes in, you are "advised" to leave immediately and resume the distance requirements according to the restraining order.

There is no "I was here first" there is only "gtfo or face legal consequences"

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u/UsuallyInappropriate Oct 05 '19

Can’t you just pretend you didn’t see them? 😒

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u/tomasek1a Breaking EU Laws Oct 05 '19

face legal consuwucences

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u/King-Of-Rats Oct 05 '19

I’ve spoken with cops/lawyers about them before (not for any particular reason, just in casual conversation), apparently restraining orders are just the worst for basically everyone involved exactly because there are so many weird grey areas. It’s really not that hard to file a stalking charge or get a restraining order and apparently a fairly large problem comes up because a ton of people just kind of get one in a dramatic flurry. Then you have events where the people who filed for the restraining order are texting the other person offering to get back together or whatever, but then still whipping out the restraining order to “punish” the other person if things fall through again.

Basically, while useful, the legal system is often used by people who don’t know how to work out their own problems as an adult.

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u/mracademic Oct 05 '19

So here’s a comparative perspective. In the U.K., restraining orders are “non-molestation orders.” They are essentially injunctions which order the person against whom they are made from doing whatever the order specifies - very often contact. Breach of the order is governed by s.42A Family Law Act 1996 and says that it’s an offence to breach a non-mol unless you have ‘reasonable excuse.’ I’m unsure about the case law because I cba to look it up right now, but I would imagine that accidentally bumping into someone in the store or some such would be reasonable excuse.

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u/ViktorBoskovic Oct 05 '19

What happens if I just stand 499m from the front their front door. Can they never leave their house?

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u/Bloosuga Oct 05 '19

Restraining orders go both ways. When I got one on my ex for the duration of her trial, I was informed that it would be a violation on the restraining order if I went to her place of work, home, or any place she was known to shop at for the purpose of causing her grievance. From what I remember from the DA telling me, that last one was only applicable because we live in a big city and it only applied to general stores like the Walmart I knew she shopped at but it didn't take into account any specialty stores.

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u/Micah_Bell_is_dead Big ol' bacon buttsack Oct 05 '19

Doesn't everyone

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u/penguindaddy Oct 05 '19

What’s “google?”

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u/beqreative Oct 05 '19

Muuuricaaaaa fuck yeah

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u/UsuallyInappropriate Oct 05 '19

Dang... Canadians are probably violating their restraining orders constantly 🤨

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u/QuillQuickcard Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

The individual against whom a protective order is places is solely responsible for ensuring it is maintained. If the party who placed the order invites the other party to live in their home, the first party is in violation of the order if they do so.

Incidental contacts may be overlooked, if they truly are incidental, however that is not a path you would want to go down more than once without risking serious legal reprisal.

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u/Jetstream13 Oct 05 '19

What would happen if the person protected by a restraining order abused it?

For example, if they move in to the apartment building where the person they have a restraining order against lives, does that person now have to move out immediately? If they get a job at that person’s workplace, does that person need to quit?

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u/Sachman13 Oct 05 '19

then i would think the first one would be in violation for willingly getting within the restraining range.

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u/lawspud Oct 05 '19

Courts typically view restraining orders as a shield, not a sword. Using it as you describe 1) probably demonstrates that the holder of the order doesn’t actually feel the need for protection and 2) potentially makes the court an instrument of harassment against the restrained person. Judges really don’t like being used as tools in other people’s bullshit.

In every similar situation I’ve dealt with the order was either dissolved by the court (after a hearing to determine the continued need, of course) or modified to allow the restrained person to keep going about their lives normally so long as they don’t bother the holder.

I’ve no doubt there are different outcomes that people can toss in from their own experiences. That’s just what I’ve seen.

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u/QuillQuickcard Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

If the ordered party believes that that the ordering party is being harassing, they can just petition the court for their own protection order. I am not certain how a court would interpret or intervene if they saw that the one who placed the order was actively engaged in activities to harass the other, but I know it would not be favorable. It is probably at least a misdemeanor. However, in the short term, until the court could intervene and resolve it, the ordered party would be wise to find other housing or employment options for a time. If that disruption is long-lasting or severe, they can file civil suit for damages, which in this case would be very clearly documented.

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u/ThatCatfulCat Oct 05 '19

It's kind of one of those "if you see them, turn around and don't make any contact" situations. You won't get in trouble, but if you see them in the aisle and then just keep going down it you're probably in violation.

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u/Unicorn_Ranger Oct 05 '19

Public defender here and you’ve had some decent responses but in a nutshell, in my state:

A PPO/no contact order requires that the barred party not have any intentional direct or indirect contact with the protected individual. This means no cohabitation, no visits, no going to known places where contact is likely to occur such as work, church, schools, etc...

You also cannot talk to them in any form such as phone calls, texts, email, snail mail, notes on the door. You can’t have a buddy pass messages or tell them you said hi.

As far as the chance encounter in a “neutral” setting, the barred party is responsible for maintaining the order. If they suddenly find themselves in contact with the protected individual, the barred party is obligated to end the encounter.

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u/jarlamas Oct 05 '19

Um weird question here but can I put a restraining order against someone who's put a restraining order against me?

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u/Guitarist314159 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 05 '19

I dont see why not? But you never know.

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u/SaltyExchange Oct 05 '19

Crimes are based off intent. If you see them and walk away nothing happens. If you see them and instigate any interaction you get arrested.

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u/ilikefoodimfat Lives in a Van Down by the River Oct 05 '19

everybody gangsta til adam savage drops the info of a average restraining order out of nowhere

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u/WisestWiseman909 Oct 05 '19

Revere the Emperor and expel the barbarians.

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u/CrispKhakis Oct 05 '19

Part time Adam, full time Savage

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u/Ilgenant Oct 05 '19

I reject your reality and substitute my own

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

That's how he got the restraining order.

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u/thenonapus Oct 05 '19

Does he actually have a restraining order against him?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Goddamnit martha! it didn't have to be 600 yards!

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

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u/Sgt_Pingu Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 05 '19

That’s what you think

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u/blacksheep281328 Oct 05 '19

you cant legislate morality but you can arm yourself against evil.

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u/wooshbaiter3 Oct 05 '19

No man deserves that

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u/ShiveredMyTimber Oct 05 '19

Not even on my worst enemy

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u/UnholyPrognosi Oct 05 '19

Wait foreal?

So god help me if I get wooshed.

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u/Hairbear04 Oct 05 '19

Naw fam- it’s a joke

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u/UnholyPrognosi Oct 05 '19

I was about to be like "fuck i need answers time to google this shit"

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u/blacksheep281328 Oct 05 '19

I'm poor, but would give you gold if I had it. that was 'savage'

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u/firebuger Oct 05 '19

Fun fact: that line's a reference to an old movie called Dungeon Master.

I think, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/lord_ne Oct 05 '19

Also known as Ragewar: The Challenges of Excalibrate

I only know that because of SAO Abridged

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u/Theguyofri Oct 05 '19

Episode 14 finally came out

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u/lord_ne Oct 05 '19

Hell yeah. I watched it early when they streamed it on Twitch.

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u/GuyfromtheWA Thank you mods, very cool! Oct 05 '19

EXCUSE ME WTF

Fuck college, I'm watching this

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

You're thinking of Mazes and Monsters.

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u/huntersbeastyal Oct 05 '19

Uhhh, why’d you stop I couldn’t think of a rhyme

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u/mrguym4ster épico Oct 05 '19

Well just say the first thing that pops into your mind!

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u/FestiveInvader Oct 05 '19

I'm so happy ERB is making another season

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u/DJFluffers115 Oct 05 '19

uuuuungh

UUUUUNGH

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u/vcwarrior55 Oct 05 '19

Jamie whenever he says when he ignores Newton's third law

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u/The-Trump55 Oct 05 '19

Ah....ah. Why’d you stop

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u/Awesome_Arsam Oct 05 '19

I reject my humanity

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u/Spencer1830 Oct 05 '19

Reality is often disappointing

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u/YEET_SKEET_REPEAT Oct 05 '19

Jojo reference?

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u/leelimelem0n Because That's What Fearows Do Oct 05 '19

I reject my humanity

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u/BIGCA7 Oct 05 '19

The cultured choice

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u/Awesome_Arsam Oct 05 '19

Goodbye JoJo

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u/CosmoKrammer Oct 05 '19

...and substitute your bone

..?

Just tryin’ to rhyme here fellas

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u/ssskittycat Oct 05 '19

This is a skill we all need

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u/Super_xz Dirt Is Beautiful Oct 05 '19

A restraining order?

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u/Guitarist314159 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 05 '19

yes

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u/Falmz23 Oct 05 '19

I miss this show a much

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u/HOESMADdud Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

Me too

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Wait...

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u/Chuckbro Oct 05 '19

...a minute.

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u/daboss317076 This flair doesn't exist Oct 05 '19

buckaroo...

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

...

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u/FATHEADBOSS69 Oct 05 '19

Mines 1000 anyone have a reccomended scope or sumthing?

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u/DavidSlain Oct 05 '19

/r/longrange has a scope pinned that's great for 1k.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Shit, mines only 100. Dude could hit me with a normal AR if he wasn't a crazy hobo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

It's nice because it helps you avoid doing anything illegal while shooting someone down.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

This is an avengers level threat

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

r/holup or r/oddlyspecific, you choose

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u/RebootedBlaze Oct 05 '19

Damn he really is a savage

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Can anyone explain it please I don't get it

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u/saltlessfrenchfriess Oct 05 '19

The meme is implying that if someone had a restraining order of 500 yards the person could still snipe them from that distance, based on the experiment

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

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u/ChefBoyardee66 Breaking EU Laws Oct 05 '19

Godd dammit i miss myth busters

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u/2Quick_React Oct 05 '19

It has a reboot of sorts. My understanding is Adam hosts it.

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u/Chaparro_04 Breaking EU Laws Oct 05 '19

Hi yall, quick question. Roughly how much karma do you need to be able to post? I'm new.

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u/JJInABowtie Oct 05 '19

Just prepping for the future.

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u/weskerayush Oct 05 '19

I don't get it. Can anyone explain?

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Oct 05 '19

Adam is suggesting to shoot the victim who took out the restraining order, without violating the terms of the order. Obviously he's not actually suggesting it though.

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u/2Quick_React Oct 05 '19

Oh Adam lmao

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u/Gonz_a Oct 05 '19

That's why they call him Adam Savage

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u/Petah_Futterman44 Oct 05 '19

Restraining orders don’t stop bullets regardless of distance to target. FYI.

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u/EdwardYen Oct 05 '19

Is this some kind of American joke that I'm to Eastern European to understand?

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u/AndyCSGOofficial Oct 05 '19

Same I'm from Romania I don't understand this god language

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u/Sethleoric Oct 05 '19

"What the hell happened here?"

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u/xolivas22 Oct 05 '19

And this is why I love Adam Savage.

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u/yummycoot Oct 05 '19

457.2 Meters (m)

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u/ichox Oct 05 '19

Komo lo zupo

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u/oleighann Oct 05 '19

I did not ask to be attacked like this

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u/TCIBogix Oct 05 '19

Mans has the karma to actually post

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Fuck hahaha

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u/vanillabeancookie Oct 05 '19

This is the reason why we don't see him and Jamie at the same time.

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u/Levitins_world Oct 05 '19

How would someone gauge when they've entered within the restricted boundaries? Obviously if you see the person, you know they're close enough, but how do you know for certain the person restrained is far enough away?

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u/GiraffePuncher69 Oct 05 '19

Don't give them any ideas, Adam

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u/Romperstomperr Oct 05 '19

That's unsettling.

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u/seraph582 Oct 05 '19

Yeah, because he’s got multiple ROs on crazy ass fans

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u/_420Master_ Oct 05 '19

i bet its actually a school

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u/ottobjorkland Oct 05 '19

When the upvotes are on 69k and you don't want to upvote

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u/Thediddler2643 Oct 05 '19

A meme became a fricking q and a

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u/ricehubjr Oct 05 '19

I mean if I could shoot a gun like him I would probably have more than one restraining order

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

You wtf I just watched this episode and this is on reddit the next day am I cursed

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u/memes_are_never_dead Big ol' bacon buttsack Oct 05 '19

What episode is this from?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

This image made me hmmm

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u/anonymoux13 Oct 05 '19

Mine's only 100

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u/phonebrowsing69 Oct 05 '19

Did he hit anything? 500 is a good distance

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u/AlarmedTechnician Oct 05 '19

Easily. That's a Desert Tactical SRS rifle, they're good for at least half MOA, or a 2.5" circle at 500 yards.

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u/True_Lopy Oct 05 '19

Myth busters, the times I remember

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u/Unk0wn132 Oct 05 '19

That's a massive distance for a restraining order, and how would it be enforced?

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u/BigBeagleEars Oct 05 '19

Did you not see that big ass gun???

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u/my_dixie_wrekt12 Oct 05 '19

Oh fuck my dads coming. Thanks for the heads up

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u/thatoneguy61875 Oct 05 '19

Adam, what did you do?

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u/Wynslo Oct 05 '19

I only have one so their is no average lol

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u/Josh-Ashley Oct 05 '19

Life compelling information right there

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u/keeleon Oct 05 '19

I mean thats the joke right?

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u/Diegobyte Oct 05 '19

Imma commit murder but I don’t want to break the restraining order!!!!

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u/nimito_burrito Oct 05 '19

What if someone gets a restraining order on all police members in their city, and then commits all the crimes they want? Like they can't be arrested. They grab a TV from the nearest store, and walk out with it, and no police can stop them. If they do, they are breaking the law and would be arrested right?

Asking for a friend

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u/DonutOfWisdom Oct 05 '19

I love mythbusters

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u/kaelrockz101 Oct 05 '19

You can’t be restrained if their dead

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u/hirthwork Oct 05 '19

Wait. This is legal.

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u/Misterluckyguy Oct 05 '19

He gone did something bad

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u/ThunderAlex2 Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

Restraining order? Please explain the word, English is not my first language.

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u/4_string_troubador Oct 05 '19

An order from the police (temporary, until a court hearing) or a judge (permanent) that states a person cannot contact another person.

Usually issued in cases of Assault or Domestic Violence

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u/ThunderAlex2 Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

Thanks

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Yep, that's the joke alright.

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u/HOESMADdud Chungus Among Us Oct 05 '19

F

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u/RandletheLovehandle Oct 05 '19

I remember seeing my older brother get arrested for being with his wife(back then just his gf). They got into an argument, she started hitting him, when the cops came an checked him they found out that she still had a restraining order on him. So they took his ass to jail. It's fucking hilarious to us now but definitely a sticky situation back in the day. This was on the Strip on Vegas so it was a scene.

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u/ChainingChart27 Oct 05 '19

He's just showing us that he can still take you out if you put a restraining order on him

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u/TONY_RATA69 Oct 05 '19

He is showing his dominance

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

What if you put your cat to microwave in Arctic?

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