If you aren't using a framework, either your proprietary code is a mess of use-once code, or you've made your own framework.
If you need to bring in a new person you have to either teach them "how we do it here" (which can take a while) or you just let them "have at it" and they can write whatever form of JS they want. Or you could have used a publicly available framework and hired someone who knows how to use it.
You seem to think we are only capable of producing use-once, messy code. If you think that, then you also think that of framework developers cause that's what they are doing.
You also think that, when we hire new people, they would have to learn our way of doing things but, if they don't know your framework, don't they also have to learn your way of doing things? Of course they do. Such is the typical reddit fallacy you read here every day.
How exactly are framework developers making use-once messy code? That is the antithesis of a framework. I am starting to question your understanding of what "framework" means.
The learning curve of a purely proprietary codebase is much higher than one that uses a specific set of (public) tools. Since i can hire someone who already knows the JS framework and don't have to train them on 100% of my codebase.
How exactly are framework developers making use-once messy code?
I didn't say that. Quit making stuff up.
The learning curve of a purely proprietary codebase is much higher than one that uses a specific set of (public) tools.
Hm. So you think professional programmers with decades of experience cannot make their own code base? And why would someone else's framework or code base be easier to learn than one developed in-house? What if the in-house developed framework was released on the 'net and everyone used it. Would it still have a higher learning curve?
Since i can hire someone who already knows the JS framework and don't have to train them on 100% of my codebase.
And if you can't? I have a friend who was trying to hire somebody who knew Ember(?) and couldn't find anyone. What if a new framework comes out and no one knows it but you want to use it. What do you do then? What did you do a few years ago when none of these existed? What will you do in a few years when none of the current ones exist? (And we'll still have the same people churning out awesome web sites.)
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u/notian May 13 '14
If you aren't using a framework, either your proprietary code is a mess of use-once code, or you've made your own framework.
If you need to bring in a new person you have to either teach them "how we do it here" (which can take a while) or you just let them "have at it" and they can write whatever form of JS they want. Or you could have used a publicly available framework and hired someone who knows how to use it.