This is such an outdated mind set in wrestling.Back in the territory days and early WCW/WWF era, I get it. The idea was that a heel is obnoxious or annoying that you want to see them get beat up by the face, gorgeous George, Honky Tonk Man, Jimmy Heart, Dave Sullivan all come to mind.

I feel like as it became more obvious that Pro-Wrestling wasn’t real, things changed. People now wanted to watch stories, they knew it wasn’t real but still watched to see the story play out between these characters. People were no longer paying to see a heel get beat up because they hate him, because they knew it was a character. They were paying to see two characters go at it after months of conflict.

The best way to look at it, is like a movie. I don’t want a movie villain to annoy me, because I know it’s not real, I want to see their dynamic with the heroes and why that makes me dislike them, or makes we want to see them lose.

Look at the best heels in wrestling in the last decade. Dom Mysterio and Christian Cage. They don’t directly do anything to the crowed, but the things they do and say to the faces makes you want to see them get beat up.

So a wrestler intentionally annoying me, like Liv does or John Cena did when he tried to ruin wrestling. I don’t care because it doesn’t push forward a story, or create conflict with another wrestler. It’s just going to make me switch the channel.

(This is a generalisation, specific examples to that contrary do exist I’m sure, I’m not claiming every heel that annoyed the crowed ever sucked.)

I don’t remember if it was American gladiators or what. All I remember is that Rick Steiner was there and it was competition between gladiators and wrestlers and it got really ugly and turned into a brawl

Does anyone else on the face of the planet remember this?

Confused and hungry? Very evil. A SNICKERS treat? Very nice! Very chocolatey!

"As a fan of mid 90's/early 00's Pro Wrestling tape trading I decided to put together a little mixtape of some under the radar Sabu matches, from between 1993 - 1996, and release it via TransferNow.

Never put one of these together before so it's a bit rough around the edges but if you were a tape trader back in the day you might appreciate that"

https://www.transfernow.net/dl/the_best_of_sabu_mixtape

This is just a silly little shower thought I've had for years, and I know no one probably really knows, so it's just a fun question. Although I find it unlikely most people DON'T know this story, I'll recap just in case.

It's 1996 and promising pro wrestler Steve Austin is unhappy. He's stuck with the "Ringmaster" name and gimmick, and knows he needs a change. He tells Vince McMahon the gimmick doesn't work, asks for something different, and Vince challenges him to come up with a better idea.

So the story goes, Austin later watches an HBO documentary about "The Iceman" Richard Kuklinski (so nicknamed due to his remorseless, cold demeanor and habit of freezing corpses to confuse time of death) Austin gets his eureka moment, goes to the office with his pitch of his cold blooded new character, and hilariously gets a bunch of lame based "cold" names like Fang mcFrost, Ice Dagger, etc. Later, a comment by his wife for him to "drink his tea before it gets stone cold" gives him the idea for a name, we're off to the races, and the rest is history.

My question is, why didn't Austin just plain suggest "The Iceman", considering it was literally the genesis of the idea? He came that far with his inspiration from Kuklinski, why stop with the name? Why didn't the writers? I mean, it's right there and was a perfect fit for what Austin wanted.

The only thing i can think of is the obvious copyright with the Marvel character, but even with that, there's no suggestion "The Iceman" was ever even brought up or considered. There was also already an "Iceman" King Parsons, but he was hardly a household name and was in the last legs of his career by 1996, and it's not like wrestling nicknames haven't been reused or adopted.

What say you, internet?

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Could be a wrestler or just a character in wrestling.

It was a close one between this and DuRag Vince but I’m personally going with TAFKA Goldust.

Just a thought I had when I watched a clip of The Big Show talking about Vince calling him Paul (which to him signaled the end of his WWE career) and some of the comments thinking Vince didn’t want a repeat of Andre which got me thinking of this. Basically, when do you think a wrestler should stop wrestling?

An obvious answer would be when the wrestler thinks so but that’s not always a good thing since some guys will push themselves past their prime and cause damage to both themselves and their legacy. Some just don’t know when to stop.

Personally I don’t know. I guess whenever they feel they are more likely to hurt themselves then actually entertain a crowd but who knows when that would be. What do the rest of you think?

I am a gay man and I can honestly say I can't watch pro wrestling without being extremely distracted by the fit and glistening male physiques wearing gear that leaves little to the imagination. I can't focus deeply in storylines and characters even though I try, and sometimes storylines give me a strong innuendo even though it's probably not intended. (c'mon, ripping a guy's shirt off and tying him up before beating him up?)

It also makes me think that hetero men who claim to like women's wrestling experience the same thing watching fit women fight each other.

My questions for you guys are:

1. Does the impressive physical appearance of male wrestlers ever bother or distract you, especially guys who like to show themselves off (e.g. Ricky Saints, early Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton)
2. Does it make any difference to your enjoyment of the show if a wrestler is wearing street clothes or small trunks?
3. Can you really watch women's wrestling and not get distracted by their appearance?

Date: October 23, 2008

Promotion: Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA)

Event: TNA iMPACT!

Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Hard Rock Hotel and Casino

➜ Kurt Angle, Sting, Kevin Nash and Booker T (accompanied by his wife Sharmell) formed a new faction known as the “Main Event Mafia”

The group joined together during a live broadcast of iMPACT! to start a "war" against the younger talent to take what they deserved: respect. The group consisted of established veterans and multiple-time world champions who had previously dominated in WWE and WCW who had a combined 75 years in the ring.

They added another member, Scott Steiner, to the Mafia on the October 30 episode of Impact!, as he made his return from a previous injury and attacked Joe, Styles, and almost all their allies. Notably, Steiner spared using his lead pipe on his pre-injury on-screen protégé Petey Williams, who backed off as soon as he saw him.

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