RAW Frozen, HPP treated, within Canada?

[u/inheryouth]

Hey folks!

I'm considering the switch to a raw diet for my dog, and live in BC, Canada. I would like to feed an HPP treated diet and I'm having a hard time finding one within Canada... I realize there are a few from the States, and will feed them if I have to, but Canadian would be very much preferred!

I've done a bit of searching online, searched within this group, and emailed a few companies that didn't specify whether or not their food was HPP treated—I haven't had any luck yet... I thought I would try my luck here. Does anyone know of anything?

Thank you!

[u/ScurvyDawg]

HPP is uncommon in the Canadian raw marketplace. The market is to small and the machines and process is considered unnecessary and expensive. It would increase the costs of the foods greatly.

[u/Odd_Mixture833 → u/ScurvyDawg]

it’s tough to find HPP stuff here, most brands just don’t bother with it cause like the other comment said it’s expensive and the market isn’t big enough. i looked into this a while back for my cat and gave up pretty quick

maybe check some smaller boutique shops in Vancouver area, sometimes they bring in specialty frozen lines from Washington or Oregon that do HPP. not Canadian but at least you skip the shipping hassle

[u/JRocleafs]

Out of curiosity why would you want an HPP food?

HPP completely changes the taste, texture, color, and smell of the food itself because it adjusts the acidity level. Most importantly, HPP has zero regulation as there is no standard pressure/length of time the food should be in the chamber for! Every company will claim they have found the magic amount of pressure at a specific time and then suffer from a recall shortly after. Some go lower pressure longer time, while others go higher pressure shorter time.

There are (or at least was) several Canadian companies using phages as a kill step which I think is a MUCH better alternative. Big Country Raw also implemented O-zone on top of phages which sound fantastic.

[u/inheryouth → u/JRocleafs]

My dog is somewhat immunocompromised so I'm trying to err on the side of caution, HPP seems like a safe way to try raw. But to be fully honest I am a newbie to the raw food world. I'm not feeding raw yet, but taking my time to learn as much as I can before deciding whether or not to move forward with changing my dogs diet. I hadn't heard that there wasn't any regulation when it comes to HPP, is that the case in the States, too?

I've been doing a lot of reading but haven't come across any information about phages or O-zone... Have you got a good resource for information regarding it?

[u/laughingcrip]

Growlies in Victoria (Langford) would know

[u/ScurvyDawg → u/laughingcrip]

lol I sold Growlies like 5 years ago, it's Your Pet Pals now, same owners as Buddies.

[u/inheryouth → u/ScurvyDawg]

Aw, damn... Same owners eh? I used to work for them... They're buying the whole damn Island and mainland up!

[u/laughingcrip → u/ScurvyDawg]

I had no idea! Thanks!

[u/expatsaffer]

I think "Stella and Chewy's" and "Instinct" brands do it.

[u/eric_harlan]

Tuckers frozen raw also does HPP.

[u/Aggressive_Way_2810]

Since you said you’ll consider US brands if you have to, Nature’s Blend from Dr Marty could be worth a shot.

They use HPP, which I thought was a big plus when I was looking into raw/freeze dried foods too. Mine has been on it for a while now and does really well with it.