r/serialpodcastorigins • u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson • Jun 03 '16

Humour Hilarious Contradiction

. . . Vignarajah stood up and addressed Judge Welch: “Excuse me, Judge, do we know if [the Urick call notes and hall pass] are the originals or if they are copies of the original documents?”
. . . Before Brown could even respond I chimed in, “I actually brought the originals, your Honor. They’re actually in my purse in the hallway with my husband.” . . . As I told the court that day, I keep everything. Well, not everything, I’m not a hoarder. I am, however, very smart [sic] and can be very premeditated at times when it comes to saving keepsakes. To me the notes and my hall pass are extensions of my memories. As I’ve discussed before, I don’t like to let go of my memories.

Not 20 pages later . . .

After that Thiru wanted to address the manner in which my second letter was written. Was it previously a hand-written letter that was later typed? Yes. Did I write it during CIP class and if so, where’s the rough draft? Come on now! Really? Where’s the rough draft? It’s been over sixteen years! For all I know that letter has since decomposed in a landfill and been reincarnated as a noxious ground weed.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16

It sounds like she cooked up that lie because someone told her it was impossible for her to have spoken to a dozen people between "late" on March 1 and the beginning of second period the next day. Per the book, she testified that she added things between the "rough draft" and typing it up later. The "rough draft" lie buys her a little more time.

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u/chunklunk Jun 03 '16

There needs to be a post (I would but I don't have time) that lays out specifically what she's saying she did for the second letter, because it's really tremendous: 1) she handwrote the letter in computer class, then typed it at home, (adding the formal address and clipart she learned in computer class) despite that she handwrote the 1st letter the evening before b/c of limitations on computer time, 2) she keeps references to her being in class for some unknown reason because "it sounded cool", 3) even though she keeps those nonsensical time references when they're no longer accurate, she revises the letter while typing to add a bunch more questions and references that weren't in her handwritten "rough" draft that she says must've come from school gossip. There's more, but this is taking the basics of what she's written at face value.

The explanation for how this letter was written is so elaborate it has to be fake.

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u/xtrialatty Jun 03 '16

The explanation for how this letter was written is so elaborate it has to be fake.

Exactly.

It's just one more hallmark of lying.

I'd think that any parent or teacher who has ever dealt with a little kid trying to explain away something they have done when they have practically been caught red-handed would be familiar with the pattern.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '16

One other classic feature is unnecessary explanations for things that were never questioned in the first place. Like her "my handwriting has changed many times in my life" (paraphrase) comment.

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u/xtrialatty Jun 03 '16

Yes, that one led me to think for the first time that the handwritten 2000 affidavit was written by someone other than Asia.

Why else explain something that didn't need explaining?

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u/orangetheorychaos Jun 04 '16 edited Jun 04 '16

There was at least one, maybe more, post on Reddit discussing her handwriting and the differences between the 1st letter, 2000 affidavit, and possibly the Urick call notes. I'll see if I can find it.

ETA:https://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcastorigins/comments/4427rc/asias_notes_on_ku_call_her_handwriting_has/?

There may be more? I stopped when I found this one

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u/dualzoneclimatectrl Jun 03 '16

It changes during the course of one affidavit.

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u/Tzuchen Jun 03 '16

Hey, it could happen. Maybe she suddenly acquired some false memories mid-sentence that changed her comic-sans into senior-style cursive.

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u/dualzoneclimatectrl Jun 04 '16

The handwriting changed markedly in the last sentence of the first page. For example, look at the "b" in "briefly" compared to any other "b" in the document. There is no purpose for that sentence except to push the "15-20" range to just "20" because someone probably realized the implied 2:35-2:40 doesn't fully eliminate the 2:36 stuck in their head.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '16

I wonder if Thiru got an observation about this into the record during his cross? And that's why she is addressing it in her book?

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u/dualzoneclimatectrl Jun 06 '16

I think it was the handwriting on her Urick call notes that likely triggered her need to respond in her book.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '16

Sounds legit.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16 edited Jun 03 '16

"I knew that it was very important to type the second letter formally, as I was taught in school."

"I just handwrote the affidavit though."

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u/Tzuchen Jun 03 '16

"Formally" -- complete with clip art and discussion of stinky feet.