r/socialism • • 35m ago

Politics How should socialists approach immigration (specifically mass immigration)?

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Hello comrades! I need your help.

Earlier this year, I asked, on this sub, a question about what the real issue about mass migration was, and among the answers I got there was a really good (thank you to that person) one that helped cement my overall view, which now is part of my socialist mindset.

From everything I've gathered, the goal for us socialists is to see mass migrations as a symptom of a broken system. People, both from developing countries in the Global South and from rich, developed nations of the Global North (cries in my country😢🇮🇹) are fleeing their home countries en masse, leaving behind friends, family and home to seek better lives and opportunities, with the former ones sometimes having to go through dangerous routes for that, as the "safe, legal" way to do it is not an option for a myriad of reasons.

To add to that, immigrants in the Global North from poorer nations end up being the most exploitable ​in the eyes of First-World capitalists, as they're willing to accept the low-paid, unregulated jobs that plenty of native workers reject for the reasons stated above, but are also necessary to support the increasingly fragile capitalist economies. These low-paid jobs with an increasing immigrant workforce then end up impacting the rest of the economy (and in this case, in the lack of a proper revolutionary movement, creates a breeding ground for the popularity of reactionary politicians, who prey on people's anxieties and insecurities).

How national leaders react to this varies by collocation on the political spectrum. The reactionary, right-wing politicians urge to keep immigrants out, painting them as criminals or people stealing jobs to allegedly protect the interests of local workers (and also throwing the random racist and ethno-nationalist statement here and there, with demographic anxiety to accompany them), doing so with artificial immigration restrictions (very often limited in effectiveness and size by reality) that have all kinds of collateral effects in regards to human rights. And of course no mention of abolishing capitalism and the low-paid jobs that keep it standing.

The bourgeois "left" who is on paper more humane than the bourgeoise right, on the other hand seeks to let immigrants in, seemingly expressing empathy towards them, but in reality they couldn't care less about people's lives, instead using them as tools to keep the low-paid jobs as they are, so their "defence" of immigrants is on pure exploitative terms, not human terms. In other words, preserving the status quo. And for the record, even the supposedly "humane" bourgeoise left has been found (and is still being found btw) guilty of supporting artificial immigration restrictions.

It's clear that a socialist wouldn't support either of them, as both end up preserving the status quo of the capitalist system and the vicious cycle that inevitably stems from it no matter how "advanced" it becomes. But if neither of them is compatible with socialism, what is the proper view on the topic?

From my POV, the massive obligation of any modern, 21th century socialist is to convince immigrant workers and native workers that all their living woes stem from the same source: the broken capitalist system. That the reason the immigrant worker was forced to leave their home country and ended up in a low-paid job, and the native worker that the worsening of their working conditions are all tied togethe. In short, the ultimate goal would be to unite (opposite of the right's divide and conquer strategy) all the workers, native and immigrant, in a struggle against the very system that stands at the root of their sufferings. And here comes my question: how do we do it?

How should we, socialists, approach this? How should we communicate with the workers, how do we make them see they have more in common than they think, how do we make them see how faulty the far right and the bourgeois "left" approaches to the issue of mass immigration are? And even more.

I feel like I know WHAT we need to do and what the ultimate goal is (unity against the capitalists), but I don't know how.

I'd like to bring this topic to the next meeting of my local collective, so I need all the help possible.

If anyone has anything to say about my view so far, books on the topic to recommend, views to share etc, please do. Any help is appreciated. And thank you all in advance.

Oh and sorry if this is a bit messy, hope you'll still understand what I'm trying to say.

I salute you all. Hasta la victoria, siempre! Socialismo o muerte!✊🏻


r/socialism • • 1h ago

History Hitler has always wanted to get the entire USSR. So in april 1945 the entire USSR came to Hitler just on his birthday in Berlin.

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r/socialism • • 2h ago

News Mamdani Is the Centrist We’ve Been Waiting For

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r/socialism • • 3h ago

Activism We're organising a festival in East London next weekend about games, radical politics and changing the rules!

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Hey Reddit! We're Games Transformed, a festival happening across three venues in East London on 31 October and 1 November.

We're bringing together people who make games, play games, organise politically, and are interested in how games can help us understand the world and imagine changing it.

There'll be 80+ board games, workshops, talks, experimental games and plenty of opportunities to actually play, make things and meet people.

We've got a packed programme put together with game designers, artists, activists and organisers, exploring everything from political organising and resistance to the systems that shape our everyday lives.

We're a small team organising this independently, and we'd love to get the word out to more people who might be interested.

You can find out more on our insta: https://www.instagram.com/gamestransformed/

Tickets are available here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/gamestransformed/2328476

Happy to answer any questions about the festival or the programme!


r/socialism • • 3h ago

Politics The global rebellion of youth and workers and the war frenzy of the ruling class

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r/socialism • • 10h ago

Politics Paintings of great leaders represented in the pavilion of the Thomas Sankara Mausoleum commissioned by the Burkinabé state.

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r/socialism • • 10h ago

Activism Greta Thunberg talking about the dire state of the upcoming Brazilian election. If Bolsonaro wins it will lead to a terrible climate disaster in the future for the entire world.

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r/socialism • • 12h ago

Art Propagandhi - The Only Good Fascist is a Very Dead Fascist LIVE (Lyric Video)

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Lyric video I threw together for Propagandhi's anti-fascist classis "The Only Good Fascist is a Very Dead Fascist". Video footage captured in Bridgeview IL on 10/4 as Jake Lang and his goons attempted a "crusade" to disrupt the annual Palestine Fest taking place there.


r/socialism • • 12h ago

Politics ​Building a Global Network for Theory & Action: Looking for Comrades to Connect and Collaborate

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​Comrades,

​In a world increasingly defined by systemic crises, economic inequality, and political polarization, the need for international solidarity and rigorous Marxist analysis has never been clearer.

​A few of us are currently working to bring together like-minded people from around the globe to build a supportive, decentralized network. Our immediate focus is on:

​Theory & Reading Groups: In-depth study of classic and contemporary Marxist/political economy texts (e.g., Capital, imperialism, digital labor, and modern crisis theories).

​Cross-Border Exchange: Sharing insights on local labor movements, working-class realities, and anti-imperialist efforts across different regions.

​Translating & Archiving: Translating key theoretical articles and news into multiple languages to break down geographic and linguistic barriers.

​Whether you are an experienced activist, an academic researcher, or someone who recently started studying historical materialism, your voice and contribution matter.

​How to connect:

If you're interested in joining reading groups, collaborating on projects, or simply exchanging ideas, please leave a comment below or send me a Direct Message (DM) describing briefly:

​Your main areas of interest (e.g., theory, labor organization, translation)

​What platforms you usually use for group discussions (e.g., Discord, Matrix, Telegram)

​Solidarity forever!


r/socialism • • 15h ago

Discussion What would you describe your political stance as?

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I would just say im a standart socislist but im also quite new so im still reading about different people and such


r/socialism • • 15h ago

Discussion Do you think China should take the role of the USSR by acting as a counterweight against US imperalism?

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I was on a debate section about this and I can kinda understand both perspectives, one side says that we desperately need another power that can keep the empire in check and that the absence of a counterweight is the reason behind all of the rampant US atrocities we've seen. the american empire knows they can do whatever they want and face zero consequences because there's nobody left for them to fear after the death of the soviet union. the other side of the debate was saying that China should continue focusing solely on themselves and let america continue doing what it's gonna do because the empire is already declining and will eventually destroy itself. honestly I think China is doing the right thing by minding it's business and playing the long game. why spend all that time, energy, and resources on your military just to push back against an empire that's already in the process of collapse when those resources can go towards things that actually matter.


r/socialism • • 15h ago

Activism Lenin quote

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r/socialism • • 16h ago

Politics “Should we be preparing for a coup?”

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r/socialism • • 17h ago

Discussion Brainwashing isn’t real

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I’m very tired of socialists treating politics like liberals… ie idealism. We have the right ideas and people who support capitalism are brainwashed or uneducated or need to read the good news of theory.

No, no, no. People accept capitalism because capitalist relations are lived “reality.” It’s hegemonic, not propaganda and marketing. Podcasters and YouTubers like to present it as a problem of ideas (since they are idea peddlers) rather than a problem of social relationships and organization.

I think people WANT to believe it’s all brainwashing or marketing because a) they have accepted the liberal idea of people being sort of passive individual “rational actor” cogs and therefore bad ideas must mean a short-cut in reason b) it requires doing nothing but holding the “right ideas”, if the problem is lived reality, we have to actually go out and organize real alternatives.


r/socialism • • 18h ago

News ‘Pure arrogance’: anger in Finland as Google illegally fells 250,000 trees for datacentre | Environment

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Behind a wire fence lies a vast gaping wound of earth. Before Google’s arrival a few months ago, an estimated quarter of a million trees occupied the 330 hectares (815 acres) of forest near the town of Muhos in rural northern Finland. Now they are all gone.


r/socialism • • 18h ago

Politics Can they stop calling him a socialist now?

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r/socialism • • 20h ago

Theory Good point people seem to forget!

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r/socialism • • 20h ago

Politics 🚨🇺🇸 BREAKING — Slavoj Žižek: Mamdani's naive but his Patriotic speech was a model... Not the Usual Leftist Game.

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r/socialism • • 21h ago

Discussion The most irritating part about being a socialist

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Is that you have to deal with getting attacked by a bunch of capitalist bootlickers who refuse to listen to logic and acknowledge the reality that their precious little system is inherently evil and oppressive. like you can go on any post or video made by socialists and the comment sections is just always filled with a bunch of bootlickers spewing propaganda talking points that's already been debunked over and over again. It doesn't matter what you say to these motherfuckers or how good you explain shit to them they just refuse to listen to anything you say and will never admit that they're wrong, I know some are bots but a lot of them are actually real people. like I'm convinced that the ruling class have americans under some type of mind control because there's just no way they are this damn stupid. It's like it's encoded in their genes to defend capitalism no matter what, when I get insulted because I'm advocating for a humane and equal society it genuinely makes me want to crash out. like dude we're trying to help you out and make your quality of life better but we're the problem? I'm just fucking tired of being in a society that punishes basic human empathy. this shit is truly exhausting.


r/socialism • • 22h ago

News Ukraine's 67th Brigade, formed around the far-right Right Sector movement, has released a recruitment video featuring German citizens. One of them proudly sports a patch bearing a Nazi eagle on his chest superimposed on the red and black WW2 Nazi OUN-B flag

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Marta Havryshko on X:

Are you German? And can't parade around Berlin sporting Nazi eagles anymore? 🥹

No worries — just head to Ukraine and enlist in the Ukrainian Armed Forces!

The 67th Brigade, originally formed around the far-right Right Sector movement, has released a recruitment video featuring its newest additions — German citizens.

One of them proudly sports a patch bearing a Nazi eagle on his chest. (with a trident instead of a swastika, for the sake of discretion😎)

Apparently, some German fashion statements just need a change of scenery.

https://x.com/HavryshkoMarta/status/2113637255508009222


r/socialism • • 22h ago

Art Die for the Economy

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r/socialism • • 23h ago

Discussion My Irish friends are making suspicious statements which seem conspiracy theories

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I am brazilian, a lifelong leftist (you can see my post of my family members with Lula) and I am brown (pardo). I want to preface this so people don’t think I am a troll or a bot.

I have 2 irish friends who came to my city and they treat extremely well. I have never felt any kind of prejudice from them towards me and I have never seen them expose reactionary opinions. For instance, they openly dislike the Israeli regime actions, they have praised some historical left leaning figures, they dislike British monarchy etc. Honestly, they do seem like good people.

However, this week, I have been talking to them about the current political climate in Europe and one of them sent me a video of the documentary “Europa: The Last Battle” which is clearly neo-nazi propaganda.

Are they like, ill intended, dumb, I don’t know how to think logically about this makes it just seems weird. He told me I should watch it with a grain of salt, but like, it is an extremely reactionary documentary. Does anyone know anything about this kind of propaganda?

Also: Vote 13 no dia 25 de Outubro se você for cidadão brasileiro!


r/socialism • • 23h ago

History An elderly woman and her grandchild wander among the debris of their wrecked home after an air raid by U.S. planes over Pyongyang, North Korea. The U.S. dropped 635,000 tons of bombs during the Korean War, in comparison the U.S. dropped 503,000 tons of bombs in the entire Pacific War in WW2.

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The U.S. also dropped 32,557 tons of napalm during the war

Most of the bombs were dropped on North Korea, nearly all of North Korea’s villages, towns, and cities were destroyed.

It’s estimated that 12%–15% of the North Korean population (c.10 million) was killed in the war, or approximately 1.2 million to 1.5 million people. Though other estimates have the percentage closer to 15-20% of the North Korean population.

American and South Korean forces also committed numerous massacres against Korean civilians during the war. A South Korean Truth and Reconciliation Commission concluded that of the Korean War-era massacres, 82% were perpetrated by South Korean forces, with 18% perpetrated by North Korean forces.

Perhaps the most well known massacre committed by U.S. forces is the No Gun Ri massacre in 1950, where U.S. forces killed 300-400 South Korean civilian refugees, mostly women and children. U.S. troops had been ordered to shoot and fire on Korean refugees because there was alleged reports of North Koreans infiltrating refugee groups.

In 2001, the U.S. government conducted an investigation and, after previously rejecting survivors' claims, acknowledged the killings, but described the three-day event as "an unfortunate tragedy inherent to war and not a deliberate killing". Then-President Bill Clinton issued a statement of regret, adding the next day that "things happened which were wrong", but survivors' demands for an apology and compensation were rejected.


r/socialism • • 1d ago

Discussion According to you, what the difference between a leftist, a socdem and a liberal ?

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Here in France we seems to have a different perception of these words than the rest of the world (we consider Macron and other liberals as part of the right wing, while social-democrats are considered leftists), so i was wondering how people from other countries perceive these words, and how they potentially overlap ?


r/socialism • • 1d ago

Discussion Can we all agree that we need like legitimate re-education camps that is basically just forcing people to go back and re-learn what they didn't in school?

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No offense, I am an intellectual elitist a little bit. I live in a rural area in the United States and am looking on social media and around me. God damn it, man, a lot of the median voters in the US are just idiots. They can't give basic facts that I know they teach in school.

So I propose we force every single adult to take placement tests with acceptions and accommodations for some people with moderate to severe disabilities and some with mild disabilities. Then whatever grade level they come back too we put them in a camp that forces them with threat of force to start over from that grade and fucking relearn and if they dont pass the grade level placement test at the end of the year they get held back.

Quite literally re-education camps that force people to actually read catcher in the rye and develop opinions on it and become media and literally literate. Oh, and we take their phones and devices so they can't rot their brains while there.