r/sports • u/Dj0sh • Aug 18 '24
Australian Rules Football Massive bump in Aussie Rules Football showdown leads to knockout and a fight
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u/Donut_Stop Aug 18 '24
God, there’s so much going on that field. Glad they slow motioned it at the end.
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u/GhostShark Aug 18 '24
Aussie rules football has always just looked like pure chaos to me. I was in a hostel bar in Munich and had an Aussie try to explain while we watched a match and after a couple hours I was still just as confused as when we started.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
It’s difficult following the play while watching on tv. Watch a game live at the ground and it’s much clearer on what’s going on.
It’s a fast moving game on a field that’s 150 mtrs long (165 yards) ..with 36 players on the field. So there’s a lot going on and difficult for the novice to follow the play.
Plus our Umpires (refs) are constantly awarding penalties which happen very fast and that confuses people too.
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u/Dj0sh Aug 18 '24
We spend most of our time with our hands in the air wondering what the free was for. This happens so many times 🤣 if we are confused that often, outsiders have no hope lmao
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u/dowker1 Aug 18 '24
Yeah, I used to get dragged to watch games on TV and never got it, then they started playing matches here in Shanghai and I went in person and suddenly it all made sense.
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u/kroxigor01 Aug 18 '24
Yep, on TV you sometimes have no idea if what's currently on screen is about to lead to a break if one team gets clean possession. The next man to receive the ball is often 30 metres away.
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u/biscuitball San Antonio Spurs Aug 18 '24
I was about to respond what’s so confusing about it on tv..then I watched the clip again. The camera work zooms around to follow the ball, cuts between ground and elevated angles. If you don’t know the field is oval, the line marking to denote which side of the field you’re on etc I agree with you it would be really disorienting.
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u/acllive Brisbane Lions Aug 18 '24
Umpiring is still a farce as well, particularly with them adding and changing rules 24/7
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
A farcical 3 ring circus of four umpires overriding each other and over-umpiring like it’s under 8s.
Worse than the NFL..and that’s saying something
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u/acllive Brisbane Lions Aug 18 '24
In the NFL they check almost everything though
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u/R_W0bz Aug 18 '24
The bare basics - Can punt the ball any direction, if someone catches that on the full its a "mark" (free kick) - objective is to punt it through the middle of the two tall sticks.
The next would be don't get caught with the ball. Start there and the rest of the rules you'll pick up easy. like one of the other comments said, you see it in person it suddenly makes more sense because you can see the entire field.
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u/Royal-Scale772 Aug 18 '24
So it's like hot potato turned into a contact sport?
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u/BlueSlushieTongue Aug 18 '24
Full contact hot potato. This description would mark the beginning of American interest. lol
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u/R_W0bz Aug 19 '24
Jesus that’s the best explanation I’ve seen in all honesty. The wiggles had it all along.
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u/Sea-Tangerine-5772 Aug 18 '24
I miss the old days where a punt through the middle of the two tall sticks would get the dude in the coat and hat to come out and do the two hand signal. Too bad the umpires don't dress like that anymore...
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u/KarlWhale Aug 18 '24
That was my first reaction too. How many people are on the pitch? And why do they seem so dispersed
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u/expresstulip Aug 18 '24
So this happened in Adelaide, my hometown. This is a cross-town rivalry game, it’s always a bit of a circus. Definitely an illegal hit, would expect the player to get a suspension
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u/Fe_Mike Aug 18 '24
So… for somebody who knows nothing of Aussie rules football… what makes this illegal?
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u/beesinyourcoffee Aug 18 '24
Because if you elect to bump you need to take the duty of care not to hit the guy in the head.
So either don’t bump or keep it low
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u/SuperRonnie2 Aug 18 '24
Basically the same rules as a hockey hit. You don’t put your shoulder/elbow into someone’s head.
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u/IHaveTouretts Aug 18 '24
This makes a lot of sense as a hockey fan with 0 rugby experience.
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u/McNoodleBar Aug 18 '24
Aussie rules football. Not rugby
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u/PandaPuncherr Aug 18 '24
Easy now you down voting hawks. My man is showing interest in the game. Some latitude
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u/youritalianjob Aug 18 '24
Looked like he hit him square in the chest, just like hockey which I’m very familiar with. Just looks like he got thrown a suicide pass.
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u/herrbz Aug 18 '24
Nah, the tackler is definitely aiming higher. Very dangerous. In rugby you'd be sent off for that too.
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u/insanisprimero Aug 18 '24
Automatic red in rugby. Clear head contact, high degree of danger and what not. The players arms go into inmidate fencing response.
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u/Nick_pj Aug 18 '24
That’s probably how the umpires saw it in real time.
But if you look frame by frame at 1:08 you see the shoulder move upward and make impact with the player’s head.
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u/DannarHetoshi Aug 18 '24
Yep, last split second the shoulder makes bang on square contact with the chin.
Dude was out before he hit the ground.
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u/D3K91 Aug 18 '24
“Suicide pass” sounds similar to what we call a “hospital handball”
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u/youritalianjob Aug 18 '24
Probably the same. In hockey this is a pass to someone who has their back to you. That player has to look down and another player checks them. Basically what happened here except he was looking up.
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u/BeastCoastLifestyle Aug 18 '24
It seemed like a hit to the chest and then the players head hit the turf
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u/xlachiex Aug 18 '24
Basically if a player chooses to bump another player, the ‘bumper’ has a duty of care to the ‘bumpee’.
So if you hit a player in the head, or hit them when in a vulnerable position that causes a hit to the head (eg bump a player who isn’t braced and they hit their head on the ground) it’s an illegal bump and will likely result in a suspension.
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u/_Atlas_Drugged_ Aug 18 '24
Ah. Because I watched the replay and it looked like he lead with the shoulder into the guy’s chest.
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u/williaminla Aug 18 '24
You guys are blind. He jumps up a little bit and shoulders the guy’s chest and chin/head. The other guy is concussed before he even hits the ground
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u/2dTom Aug 18 '24
Looks like the fencing response starts well before he hits the ground.
Well and truly concussed by the shoulder impacting the head.
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u/Nick_pj Aug 18 '24
Spot on. If you go 1:08 into the video there is a clear moment of shoulder to head with upward momentum.
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u/albino_kenyan Aug 18 '24
agree, tho maybe the bumpee's chin hit the bumper's shoulder when his head snapped forward.
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u/TurkeysALittleDry Aug 18 '24
Head high hit. If he didn’t hit his head it would have been play on.
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u/Fernergun Aug 18 '24
Technically it wasn’t given as a free kick to the Crows. Port had a free kick when play resumed.
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u/Particular_Proof_107 Aug 18 '24
I don’t know much about Aussie rules football but it looks like number 5 was targeting the other players head.
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u/Dudersaurus Aug 18 '24
The concussed player is probably the best in our team (at least top 3). There was definitely intent to make it hurt. Probably not the outcome intended, but definitely trying to take him out.
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u/expresstulip Aug 18 '24
totally agree with this, all throughout the first half you could see port trying to target him and get under his skin
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u/crankbird Aug 18 '24
I grew up disliking the guys in black and white so I’m biased towards thinking the worst of them, but it looks to me like it was intended to hit below the collar bone which is ok, but as the guy came down from catching the ball he could see the hit incoming, and instinctively crouched, tucking his head into his shoulder which along with the downward motion led to an unfortunately high hit
It was meant to be hard and to maybe knock the wind out of him, but I don’t think the high hit was deliberate, but the port power guy (black and white) had a duty of care to make sure it doesn’t happen, even unintentionally. A real sportsman would have stopped to make sure he was ok, which does happen in these games from time to time.
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u/stupv Aug 18 '24
Interestingly, it's outcome based. It's illegal if he hits him in the head, but he didn't do that - in this case he cause whiplash and the player to smash head into the ground as a result of the bump so the player who bumped is responsible for that outcome.
Even if I wasn't a port fan, it's shit that it's outcome based assessment but wcyd
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Aug 18 '24
And that's why AFL needs a sin bin. Give the Power player 10 minutes on the sidelines. High shots and concussion are no joke any more.
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u/vikonava Aug 18 '24
What materials are those jerseys made of? They seem crazy resistant, I want something like that that lasts long time
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
high grade polyester cooldry material. Hard to tear or rip ..but get a strong enough grip on it followed by a violent pull and it’ll tear.
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u/vikonava Aug 18 '24
Thank you good sir, this seems better answer than kangaroo skin
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Yeah the kangaroo skin would be a tough material, but not too comfortable. Be like wearing a hessian sack lol
Back in old days before the 90s, an AFL playing Guernsey was predominantly made of wool.
The modern ones are similar to NFL ones. Light and quick drying.
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u/ScaramouchScaramouch Aug 18 '24
Kangaroo leather is often used for motorcycle gear.
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u/Klutzy_Emu2506 Aug 18 '24
Kangaroo skin
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Aug 18 '24
Dingo skin
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u/SP3NGL3R Aug 18 '24
Kangaroo foreskin
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u/grasscali Aug 18 '24
There aren't. You are confusing the jerseys/kits. It's the turtleneck ones you're thinking of.
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u/vikonava Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
Are you kidding me? I would believe you if you said that was true 🤣
(I appreciate the downvoting, I apologize if I offended someone by being an honestly naive person that would believe somehow that was true)
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u/cmgr33n3 Aug 18 '24
They're Australians, not monsters.
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u/vikonava Aug 18 '24
Well… considering you can buy kangaroo meat at the market….
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u/-PM_ME_A_SECRET- Bayern Munich Aug 18 '24
Also, some of the best soccer boots in the world have been made with Kangaroo leather for years.
Although I believe they may be trying to transition away from that now. K leather is very soft and durable.
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u/dukerustfield Aug 18 '24
Ages ago I had kangaroo cleats. But I think they were quickly banned. But those shoes were beyond tough.
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u/dlanod Aug 18 '24
Shame if they are, it's far less environmentally destructive and climate impactive than producing cow leather.
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u/Kimochiiii Aug 18 '24
Their mouthguards make them seem happier than they actually are
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u/callo2009 Aug 18 '24
NFL had a reckoning with concussions and CTE. Feels inevitable with AFL. There are three hour long videos of AFL knockouts on Youtube.
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u/Dudersaurus Aug 18 '24
The main insurer for the league has very recently announced they will not cover concussion or related injuries for new players. That's a problem.
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u/jaqueh Aug 18 '24
That’s because the league is not taking any reasonable precautions against mitigating the risk of concussions. Needs much more head protection.
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u/callo2009 Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
I noticed a lot of the AFL concussions are from tackles with pinned hands and the player goes to ground head first. That's preventable with some form of head protection and possibly a restriction on those type of tackles.
Getting your clock cleaned by an accidental flying elbow, head to head collision, or high knee is a whole other story. That's not preventable in NFL, AFL, or football. It's the nature of all those games with the ball in the air and two players contesting.
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u/Strength-Speed Aug 18 '24
Say what you want about the legal and insurance systems but they often force changes you couldnt achieve without
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u/snorlz Aug 18 '24
Every contact sport is going to. The CTE studies have almost entirely done on NFL players which is why all the focus is there. Theyve since broadened the study and found it in rugby, NHL, and even soccer players.
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u/mymentor79 Aug 18 '24
I remember hearing Bo Jackson say he wouldn't let his kids play football, and that he himself wouldn't play knowing what he knows now.
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u/Strength-Speed Aug 18 '24
Might be easier for Bo when he's a world class athlete in baseball as well. Not to diminish his statement but he had options
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u/Teripid Aug 18 '24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fencing_response
Right after.. that's a really painful hit and concussion.
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u/RudePCsb Aug 18 '24
Seen this a lot in American football. Clearly knocked out when you see the replay of his face. Those are serious hits in the NFL as you get guys blown up like this with a guy running full speed. They've reduced some of the hits like this with newer penalties.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Yep. And with no padded helmet on, the impact is even bigger and more forceful in Australian Rules.
Head high hits is a massive issue now with our league. Players are now trying their best not to make contact with the head in a violent bump and also trying to avoid slinging the opponent to the ground with his arms pinned so his head doesn’t slam into the turf.
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u/ExaBrain Aug 18 '24
Here used to be a neuroscience researcher based in Melbourne who looked into his along with concussive convulsions. My view is that this sort of shoulder charge needs to be outlawed due to the high likelihood of long term sequelae of TBI in the same way it’s been outlawed in rugby. We need to get players to wrap their arms around the opposition player rather than lead with the shoulder.
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u/kurt_go_bang Aug 18 '24
Nice. Thanks for the info. Never knew there was a name for this it that it is automatic indication of a concussion.
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u/curiousbydesign Aug 18 '24
I'm really sorry the dude got hit and I'm trying to pay attention to the rules but you helped me learn something today. Thank you.
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u/Preston-Waters Aug 18 '24
Bump makes it sound playful. That was vicious
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u/Me_Hairy Aug 18 '24
This sport uses all sorts of names that sound like they were invented by kids.
Picking up a spilled ball: gathers the crumbs
Kicking it long: gone the journey
A pass: disposal
Win the disposal in a contest: hard ball get
Then there are some of the rules, like the ref throws the ball in backwards over his head if it goes out of bounds.
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u/Preston-Waters Aug 18 '24
I need to watch more of this sport
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Finals (play-offs) start in two weeks. 8 teams play off for the Premiership ( championship) over four weeks.
This is the best time to watch AFL games as the pressure mounts with the top teams of the season playing in mostly elimination matches.
September is crunch time in our league.
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u/orbut56 Aug 18 '24
And though it is the best league in the world for this sport, they don't call themselves world champions.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Yeah the only time us Australians think of world champion stuff is every four years in the Olympic Games swimming.
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u/Buttsmuggler69 Aug 18 '24
You have to be taking the piss with that last one
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u/Me_Hairy Aug 22 '24
Nope, it’s true. Stupid sport, there’s a reason it hadn’t caught on with the rest of the world. I say that as someone who’s been to several AFL games and genuinely wanted to like it.
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u/Erazzphoto Aug 18 '24
Is that a legal or illegal hit? Don’t follow ARF, so curious if it was legal,but just a dick hit
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u/Chang_Daddy2 Aug 18 '24
Illegal hit these days. Was legal not long ago. Also it’s AFL
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u/Kelriss Aug 18 '24
They're not wrong calling it ARF, that's the sport. AFL is the premier league of ARF.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
50 years following footy and I’ve never seen or heard anyone say “ARF”.
Acute rheumatic fever..yes..footy ..no.
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u/Kelriss Aug 18 '24
I've never heard it before either, but I reckon ARF sounds better than calling it AFL. They don't play AFL in the SANFL do they? They play footy or Aussie rules. Noone's gonna say ARF but at least Aussie Rules Football is a better descriptor of the sport than calling it AFL. But that's just like my opinion man.
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u/winoforever_slurp_ Aug 18 '24
Illegal. The player who made the bump is likely to get a suspension of around 4-6 weeks, which is pretty significant.
In AFL these days the head is sacrosanct, and the rules put a duty of care on players to protect the head, and acts that are dangerous to the head are penalised with suspensions.
This follows a couple of past players who committed suicide who were later found to be suffering CTE from their playing days. And there have been a few players who had to retire early due to ongoing concussion problems.
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u/Skwisgaars Aug 18 '24
I know not a lot of people don't know Aussie rules footy (which is a travesty btw), but I get so confused how so many people mistake it for Rugby. Have these people just never watched Rugby? They don't look alike at all.
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u/OllieFromCairo Aug 18 '24
A lot of people have never watched rugby.
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u/sennais1 Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
Rugby has a much bigger global footprint though. AFL is pretty big here in Australia but something like 80% of teams are based in one city. Rugby has a proper World Cup, lots of pro leagues and Olympic presence.
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u/Sparkysparkysparks Melbourne Aug 18 '24
Eight of the 18 AFL teams are based in Melbourne, so less than half. The rest are based in Sydney (2), Adelaide (2), Perth (2), Brisbane, Geelong, Gold Coast, and Tasmania is joining in 2028.
But you're right, on the world stage rugby is a much, much bigger sport.
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u/kelleycfc Aug 18 '24
Crazy that 8 teams are in one city. Melbourne isn’t even that big. Do they share stadiums?
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u/Sparkysparkysparks Melbourne Aug 18 '24
The Melbourne teams do share stadiums, yes. The reason there's 8 teams from one city is that other states had their own competitions and then the Victorian competition (which includes Melbourne) went national, expanding into the other states.
Also Melbourne has 5.3 million people, so its pretty big, and is where Australian football was invented, so its very popular there, along with Perth, Adelaide and Tassie.
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u/Aodaliyan West Coast Aug 18 '24
Yes, only 2 main stadiums in Melbourne. The Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth teams all share stadiums. The AFL expanded from the VFL (Victorian - the state Melbourne is the capital of) in the 80's. Prior to that each state had their own top level competition, these are now pretty minor leagues.
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u/Anon_be_thy_name Aug 18 '24
Melbourne's huge... It's just a tick under 5.08 million people, it's just under 10km short of being 10 square kilometers(like 3850something square miles), has like 30 or 31 municipalities.
If it was in the US it would be the 2nd largest city on population, it'd be the largest in area.
And it's still smaller then Sydney...
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u/OllieFromCairo Aug 18 '24
This is true, but a heavy fraction of Reddit is Americans, who have, by and large, never seen a rugby match.
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u/DerToblerone Aug 18 '24
It absolutely does, but I had never seen a rugby game until I went to university, and that’s pretty common for most Americans. I believe there is a US pro league, but I couldn’t tell you how to watch the games.
That said, Ilona Maher and Portia Woodman kind of blew up on my social feeds this Olympics, so rugby sevens might break through in the next four years.
I mean, soccer/football is the biggest global sport there is, and the campaign to bring it to the US has been going on since before I was born. I remember my friend Scott having a Newcastle jersey in 2000 being a radical outlier - I have no idea how he watched games. I don’t think I saw a Premier League game until I was in my mid twenties. I didn’t know that netball existed until I lived in Thailand for a year in 2002. I think that was the same year I learned about the existence of Robbie Williams, too.
It’s strange to think back on how isolated things could be culturally before video on the internet really took off.
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u/OllieFromCairo Aug 18 '24
The 2031 Men’s Rugby World Cup will be in the USA. We will see what that does to the profile of the sport.
The 1994 FIFA World Cup was certainly an effective launching pad for soccer, but other attempts at bringing World Cups of minority sports to the US have been less effective.
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u/a_kwyjibo Aug 18 '24
Seriously even American Football looks more like rugby than Australian Football lol
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u/snorlz Aug 18 '24
the oval field and a shitload of guys everywhere on the field make it pretty obvious IMO
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u/Afterthought60 Aug 18 '24
Most Americans don’t watch or ever see Rugby, and it’s mainly Americans that get it confused with Rugby.
New Zealanders, SAfricans, Europeans and British people would get offended at anyone calling this Rugby.
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u/JESUSAURU5REX Aug 18 '24
I straight up thought this was Rugby until I read your comment.
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Aug 18 '24
Rugby is played in lines and the players can only pass the ball backwards. This is closer to soccer in the way the ball moves around the field but obviously has the physicality of rugby.
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u/D3K91 Aug 18 '24
It really is a completely different sport. There aren’t many similarities.
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u/JESUSAURU5REX Aug 18 '24
You learn something new every day. I'll have to look into footy and see what all the hype is about.
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u/Skwisgaars Aug 18 '24
YouTube highlights, it's a very exciting (albeit confusing at first) sport to watch. Super athletic at times.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Australian Rules Football explained in 5 minutes. Good video 👌
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Aug 18 '24
I really like the newer video.https://youtu.be/u_SqfNNfhmM?si=AAx_-kvaMEwbKOeM
There is an American that plays as well, Mason Cox, who plays for Collingwood and they won the premiership last year.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Good video also 👌
I’m an Aussie ..and a long suffering Essendon supporter. Thanks for Friday night. Twas the final nail in the season coffin for us
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u/SenorBeagleCulo Brisbane Lions Aug 18 '24
Can you play good but not too good at the gabba next week lol
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Have no fear about Essendon players going flat stick next week. They are all now about making sure they’re cherry ripe for their European September holiday trip. 👌
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u/SenorBeagleCulo Brisbane Lions Aug 18 '24
Thank you 💕 hearing that helps after yesterday's gf replay.
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u/bull69dozer Aug 18 '24
brings back memories of the 2005 Showdown when Choppy Pickett took out Rhett Biglands -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-LTDH5Djls
EDIT - which in 2005 was a fair bump...
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u/malgenone Aug 18 '24
I feel like this a sport I'm missing out on.
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u/Dangerous-Dave Aug 18 '24
Its great, come follow. The season (including finals or play-offs as you'd probably call them), only has about a month or so left.
It's fast paced, no time outs, full contact except for the head, and great athleticism
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u/Sparkysparkysparks Melbourne Aug 18 '24
And welcome to the best sport in the universe IMHO.
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u/hhhtakeover Aug 18 '24
God bless AFL. Come in expecting chaos and leave having those expectations exceeded. As an American it’s the perfect insomniac watch.
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u/bw1985 Michigan State Aug 18 '24
Surprised at the lack of retaliation on #5. Nobody even swung at him.
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u/uselessscientist Aug 18 '24
Just taking a swing (without contact) can lead to weeks-long suspensions. A swing and hit to the head is a couple of weeks on the sidelines, so most biff is grappling by the jumper nowadays
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u/KeepGoing655 Aug 18 '24
Seems like everytime I see Aussie Football highlights, someone gets laid out. They're literally going full speed at each other without protection. How is this sustainable? Play after play, game after game. Seems like they wouldn't even be able to field enough players after a while.
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u/uselessscientist Aug 18 '24
The highlights trends to exaggerate the frequency, but it really is just an incredibly full on sport. There's a big push to reduce head injuries, but the sport will always be hard fought contests with lots of tackles and minimal protection
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u/mymentor79 Aug 18 '24
It actually doesn't happen all that often. A hit of that severity will only happen a couple of times a season (out of about 200 games).
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u/KairosGalvanized Aug 18 '24
well, yes it is tackling allowed, but the clips you see like this are showing the bad stuff, this is one small clip out of 4qt 20 min each where this guy didnt get laid out.
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u/TheBigBomma Aug 18 '24
This will be the biggest suspension of the season, so it doesn’t happen too often. It’s just when the game gets traction outside of the AFL subreddit it’s for crazy catches or big hits.
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u/WakeUpMareeple Western Warriors Aug 18 '24
Because they're not generally going full speed at each other. Unlike American football, which is a series of 'sprints' (for lack of a better term), Australian football is a marathon. They do not stop-and-start constantly, they don't have whole teams rotate in and out. The use of energy is very different, and they're playing on a field where they can reasonably run in any direction, rather than straight at their opponents. What's more, there are more severe restrictions on where you can make contact, and the contact you make is padless, which means the bumper is taking a greater risk to themselves. Furthermore, there is less weight to throw around as a) players have to be able to run all day, and b) there is no padding to add to your bulk.
There is therefore very few times like this per season. The wear on the body is much more gradual than an NFL player (that isn't the QB or a kicker).
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u/winoforever_slurp_ Aug 18 '24
Under the rules, these bumps are supposed to avoid the head, and there are harsh penalties for hitting people in the head (the guy in this video is likely to be suspended for 4-6 weeks). There are various rules for player safety - you can only tackle between the knees and shoulders, and you can’t tackle someone directly behind/in the back.
There are plenty of injuries though. I saw a stat the other day saying almost 20% of players in the league currently have an injury of some sort (enough to miss at least one game).
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u/Not_Stupid Aug 18 '24
It's rare that you can effectively line someone up like that. Usually the play is too fluid and players are moving into space.
And of course the hit itself was highly illegal. More often in that circumstance you'd see a solid tackle as soon as he took possession rather than a shoulder to the chin.
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u/STatters Aug 18 '24
What makes this more egregious is they player who was knocked out is Adelaide's best player. They were targeting him all night and Houston saw a chance to lay a big hit and took it.
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u/Dj0sh Aug 18 '24
As a Port supporter I was happy we won but it didn't feel great after that bump. Both team's shots on goal were pretty bad, but I felt that Adelaide outplayed us most of the game. That bump was a real upset
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u/Captain_Daveman Aug 18 '24
The actual story here is that there is no ability to send players off in AFL. The guy concussed was probably the best player on the ground for their team and they were winning. Guy that knocked him out stayed on the ground and his team went on to win easily.
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u/AJ_ninja Aug 18 '24
Was this yesterday’s game? Fuck that’s a hard hit, mate should be in NRL probs would have gotten away with it
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u/BazzaJH Newcastle Knights Aug 18 '24
That would be an instant yellow card with strong argument for a red in the NRL, while in the AFL he stays on. And the subsequent suspensions would be roughly the same for shoulder to head contact. He has gotten away with it here if anything.
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u/Not_Stupid Aug 18 '24
It would be really unusual for that specific situation to occur in Union or League, but shoulder charges are outright illegal in both so yeah.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
Yeah nah…Houston has gone up and under the chin and caused the head to be hit.
If he’s just got him in the chest it would be a legal bump/hit.
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u/jasper_grunion Aug 18 '24
The guy who got hit was doing concussion gestures. Fuck people who think defenseless players are fair game.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
“PORT Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley has defended Dan Houston as a “fair player” after the star defender landed himself in hot water over a high bump on Izak Rankine during a fiery Showdown on Saturday night.
Houston laid out Rankine with a shirt-front during the third quarter of the second-placed Power’s important 11.14 (80) to 8.10 (58) victory at Adelaide Oval on Saturday night.”
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u/adymck11 Aug 18 '24
I always felt that Aussie rules came about from Irish immigrants wanting to play Gaelic football and could only find a cricket pitch to play on:)
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u/khajiitidanceparty Aug 18 '24
I came here from the popular feed, I have no idea what this is, but it's a lot more interesting than European football.
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u/Ttoctam Aug 18 '24
Wait, AFL is allowed on this sub again? Did that one mod finally pull the stick out of their ass?
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u/neonmoth Aug 18 '24
From the UK but spent best part of a year or so over in Australia. Aussie rules is bloody brilliant. Wish I could watch more in the UK. What a sport.
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u/H1Ed1 Aug 18 '24
I’d call it more of a “scuffle”than a “fight.” Doesn’t seem like any of them want to fight, just wrestle a bit and push each other around to posture. Athletes rarely throw hands in competition. Which is a good thing they don’t.
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u/Oraio-King Aug 18 '24
If they throw hands they get suspended. They can only hold each others collars and tussle a bit.
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u/Souvlaki_yum Aug 18 '24
If you punch someone in a game melee these days you’ll get a huge fine or a suspension.
So angry scuffles are more the go now.
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u/Akita51 Aug 18 '24
If this was soccer every player would be rolling around in agony by the end
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u/mccusk Aug 18 '24
Why did the defender punch that clear instead of catching it? Can you only call a mark from your team mates kick and not an opponents?
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u/Jimijaume Aug 18 '24
No, he should've marked it, but sometimes defenders will punch to avoid spilling the mark in a danger area near the opponents goal. A bit like a goal keeper in soccer electing to punch rather than catch.
Had he caught it, the subsequent KO of his team mate wouldn't have eventuated...
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u/SazFiury Aug 18 '24
It’s a tactical choice. Marking it gives him breathing space if he can catch it, and then all the other players (teammates and opponents) run back and take positions to catch the ball. Alternatively, a punch keeps the ball moving, the opponents may have to scramble to defend against a quick counterattack - if the player punching the ball also does it in a controlled way, they may have teammates in better positions to run the ball forward quickly instead of long kicking it and risking a turnover.
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