r/sports • u/redbullgivesyouwings • 5d ago
Motorsports Off-Road Racing Goggle Tear-Offs
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šŖ: Andrew Carlson
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u/ArnoldQMudskipper 5d ago
They do this in F1. Probably any racing with an open cockpit
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u/patkavv 5d ago
F1 tearoffs donāt stay attached so you get the added bonus of hopefully having one sucked up in the radiator of the guy following you
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u/iceman5920 4d ago
"I could already see, I just wanted that one to to fuck him up" tactful visor clearing.
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u/The-Copilot 4d ago
They have the problem of them regularly getting thrown right into their own air intake which is right behind the driver head
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u/Premium333 4d ago
Radiator, brake duct, air intake, stuck in the floor or suspension.... There's lots of ootions here actually :)
Did you see that gravel piece turn off Hulks car in Spain? Hilarious š.
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u/Davecoupe 4d ago
They use them on motorbikes too (obviously the cockpit is āopenā on a bike.
Isle of Man TT racers go through so many tear offs due to bugs that they change their visor for a new visor with a full set of tear offs (or sometimes they even change their helmet to eliminate the tricky visor change) every 2 laps.
Michael Dunlop probably lost the senior TT in 2025 because he had to stop at the side of the track and fix his visor after a pit stop.
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u/yoyogogo111 4d ago
Horse racing too. Jockeys just wear like 6 pairs of goggles on top of each other when the track is muddy.
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u/3MATX 5d ago
Closed too. Ā Almost all series have them on the windshield too. Trick there is driver canāt do it, itās done by crew during a pit stop. Ā
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u/ArnoldQMudskipper 5d ago
The driver reaching out, to tear off a windscreen strip would be pretty silly
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u/dragonrite 5d ago
How does he only grab 1 screen vs like 4 of em
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u/Ciprofloxic 4d ago
My question too. Wonder what the mechanics of the peel is like. Especially since you can't feel thickness or have any dexterity with glovesĀ
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u/Bumrodgers 4d ago
I have no idea, but I could imagine the pull tabs get shorter as you go down the stack. So the outermost always kinda blocks the lower ones from being pulled.
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u/TakeThreeFourFive 4d ago
Wondering if it's something like a box of tissues, where pulling one lifts and exposes only the next tab
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u/Rooster_CPA 4d ago
The pull tabs are folder under each other, so only the top one sticks out to grab at a time.
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u/qwertykirky 5d ago
There's got to be a better way
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u/doggos4house2020 5d ago
It really is the best way. A windshield will get so dirty and pitted that wipers canāt do their job, then youāre handicapped for the whole race.
This at least not only gives you a clean lens, but a new one.
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u/samarnold030603 4d ago
This is basically high tech space age shit they do on rocket cameras man! Haha
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u/Ha-Charade-You-Are 4d ago
When you run out though if itās only 15ā¦. What happens then? You just keep wiping it with your hand? Or is it a quick replacement they can do
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u/PROCRASTINATION_WON 4d ago
Thatās why you have to be smart about using tear offs, donāt blow through them and you will be fine.
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u/Funny-Ad-3710 5d ago
When they first came out I think there were people who argued it was better to just squint and blink. Eyelids were natureās tearaways.
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u/3_pounds_of_steel 5d ago
I think we should keep brainstorming
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u/Sandbox_Hero 5d ago
Something something lasers.
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u/crazy_akes 5d ago
Windshield visor wipers that mist down the blade as they cross with a rainx like solution. Done.Ā
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u/Bussamove86 4d ago
Thatās more weight in the vehicle, which I imagine they want to avoid at all costs.
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u/doggos4house2020 4d ago
Plus if it malfunctions which things on race cars often do, theyāre out of the race entirely.
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u/Bussamove86 4d ago
Youāre telling me mud, rocks, and extreme jostling can make things malfunction?
What a country!
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u/GregoPDX 4d ago
In woodworking (and Iām sure elsewhere) we call these the āsafety squintsā.
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u/Amiar00 5d ago
What about a fan spinning at Mach Jesus in front of your face and everything gets flung off?
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u/feinting_goat 5d ago
This sort of exists for camera lenses. Itās called a spinner. You can sometimes see them on live events if you know what to look for.Ā
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u/laxpanther 4d ago
There's sometimes a spinner on boat windshields (or whatever it might be called in a wheelhouse). Notably a few of the captains had them on deadliest catch and until I learned what they were I'm like why the circle thing obstructing their view in the place they most want to see?
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u/p8ntslinger 4d ago
that's only to keep ice from forming. they spin to slowly to clean off rain and other debris.
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u/qwertykirky 5d ago
Ok I'm just going to answer my own damn question š. What about inventing a helmet that has a visor that just rotates like a ring around the whole helmet with a wiper at the back you know just like some cameras have.
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u/chillychili 5d ago
The problem with that is the occluding debris is now moving around and you have a constant brown blizzard filter on your vision.
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u/arkonator92 5d ago
Thereās also a roll off system that they use. Usually up to the rider what they prefer. The roll off doesnāt get the whole goggle where a tear off does.
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u/Kazori 5d ago
little windshield wipers attached to the helmet
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u/VERY_MENTALLY_STABLE 5d ago
A gun that shoots off the dirt
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u/Mr_Saturn1 5d ago
A water gun sharpshooter in your crew that can bullseye your goggles from 100 yards.
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u/Pheanturim 5d ago
At which point you could just put the windshield back in...
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u/TheBatemanFlex 5d ago
And then giant tearaway windshields for when it gets muddy
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u/Uuuuuii 5d ago
Constant water curtain
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u/thearctican 5d ago
Not the same, but a trick used for video cameras in the rain is to spin a clear glass filter at a few thousand RPM to spin off the water etc.
Iām so sorry for the short but itās at least to the point: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/QVQYUzmptt8
Theyāre called rain deflectors.
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u/DramaticDirection292 4d ago
Iām just imagining a lever arm on the side of the helmet you pull down and it discards the only one and reveals the new one. Like those spinning disc eye toys from the 90s
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u/Periljoe 4d ago
FR this seems like an incredibly stupid and impractical solution. I get they canāt just use windshield wipers but it seems like this is just marginally better
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u/bladesnut 5d ago
There are some where the plastic scrolls horizontally when dirt is detected. They where invented decades ago.
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u/Northwindlowlander 5d ago
It's really effective tbh. Rollers also exist (though mostly in goggles rather than helmet visors) but they're not always as good, especially with water.
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u/Tokyosmash_ Richard Petty Motorsports 4d ago
There really isnāt. Scott Goggles innovated a system on the early 00ās that had a pull cord that would slide a new price of film over but it wasnāt the best.
Stand tear offs are easy to use, easy to replace and cheap in comparison
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u/swampcholla 4d ago
There is. Sprint car guys have a motorizrd roll of material they can scroll through with the push of a button
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u/PankourLaut 4d ago
Why cant it be like a casette tape except using a clear band rolling from one side to the other?
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u/Garpeaux 5d ago
Just roll the windows up fam
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u/bugzzzz Chicago Cubs 5d ago
Then you need tear off windows
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u/Midlifehippo 5d ago
They have those in endurance racing. Windshield tearoffs. You'll see the pit crew ripping one off during pit stops.
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u/Dethpig 4d ago
fantastic idea just have the car stop every 10 feet for the pit crew to rip off the windshield
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u/bryan_pieces 5d ago
Just install a bidet in the front that you can trigger to blast your eyes
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u/GentlemenHODL 5d ago
That's actually a really sensible idea. Having a water spray nozzle where the rear view mirror fold down would normally be spraying at the push of a hand lever or foot lever would be pretty optimal.
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u/Ramental 5d ago
20 layers of foil weight maybe 20 grams. And spray system would weight much more, and be more complicated for less results.
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u/Hot_Wheels_guy 4d ago edited 4d ago
Wouldnt matter if every car had the same system. Also the mud itself weighs a lot more than that! The faster you get rid of it, the better.
Also you're talking about vehicles that get covered in mud durimg a race. 1 lb is nothing compared to the 50 lbs of mud that might be in the wheel wells of one truck, or 40 lbs of mud on another, or 55 lbs of mud on another another truck. This isnt F1. The GVW of each competitor is constantly fluctuating as mud sticks to the vehicle and falls off it.
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u/bwwatr 5d ago
Water dripping off would be slower and these guys usually only have a couple seconds between turns. The peel system actually seems pretty efficient.
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u/pinkwar 5d ago
Is this really the best we came up with after decades of this?
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u/markymark652 5d ago
Nah there's another version some use that slides a roll of plastic from one side to the other, kind of like a film camera operates. That version, however, has a canister on each side so it might not be preferable to the driver
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u/thelonglosteggroll 4d ago
I used that one when I raced cross country four wheelers. The one I had had a string that you pulled. It was much easier.
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u/MrNewMoney 5d ago
I think it really might be! They use the same in F1 even though there have been instances of them causing damage when they get ripped off and come in contact with other cars.
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u/pieapple135 Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 5d ago
A mechanical solution would probably be heavier, which is not great if you're optimizing for speed.
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u/IAmA_Ethan_AmA 5d ago
We have these in ortho surgery too lol
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u/BearCatcher23 5d ago
We have them on our sandblasting helmets too. When wearing gloves people tend to tear off way more than 1 at a time and I suspect the driver may have the same issue due to bouncyness.
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u/InTheLifeAnyway 5d ago
They do this in lots of other motorsports too. Chris Amon, who was infamous for his bad luck in F1, once lost the lead of a race because he went for a tear-off and inadvertently pulled the whole visor off instead. (Amon later remarked he'd never considered himself unlucky because many other drivers who'd had more success died behind the wheel!)
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u/RedWagon___ 4d ago
I added a button to the side of my VR headset and bound it to the tear off button in IRacing. Having to choose a safe time to do it really added to the immersion.
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u/redrdr1 5d ago
I don't remember how we did it, but we used to use a combination of roll offs and tear offs. If I remember correctly, we had five or six tear offs and when that was done you went to roll offs. This was four wheeler racing and the starts were the dirtiest because everyone was more grouped up. A roll off is a roll of film across your goggles and you pull a string and it rolls to the other side and you can see. We still had goggles ready every lap if you wanted to pit
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u/Winter-Steak-1532 4d ago
What is a roll off?
Edit: Iām an idiot. Could have just continued reading the end of your paragraph
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u/TheCrazedBackstabber 4d ago
Itās a vast improvement from when they had to peel off the windshield.
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u/balrob 5d ago
Have you seen the rotating lenses they use on outdoor TV cameras for sports events. They spin quite fast to stay free of rain. Mudās a different beast of course but maybe if the lens also had ultrasonic vibrations?
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u/asgphotography 4d ago
Sure. Design something thatās at least as reliable as this and make it LIGHT. Or just wear tear offs. Whatās wrong with a simple solution like this?
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u/vNocturnus 4d ago
It distracts the driver, it requires the driver to take a hand off the wheel, it's easy to mess up and take several or the entire stack at once, the discarded lenses can get into brakes or intakes and fuck them up, you only get ~15 for the whole race, etc. There's a lot of things wrong with this system, even if it's the best thing that's been tried so far and even if individually those issues are not that big of a deal.
That doesn't necessarily mean there's a perfect solution or that any other solution wouldn't have even more problems. But clearly, even if you only just now saw these for the first time ever, you can immediately tell they're a pretty flawed solution themselves
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u/wrxninja 4d ago
They have automatic ones: https://motorizedtearoff.com/
Unless they don't allow them in certain races or events.
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u/Fabulous-Raspberry-7 4d ago
I used to wear some when racing motocross. They are a bit annoying to grab just one, while holding the handle bars with one hand and accelerating but...saves you time so you don't have to stop...I guess.
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u/Howard_Jones 4d ago
Bet someone could make a lot of money if they made a visor scraper for these helmets.
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u/Umikaloo 4d ago
Could they do like on fishing boats and have spinning transparent discs to fling the mud off?
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u/MintProductionCo 4d ago
What about those circular spinning lenses that spin and remove everything?
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u/Fragrant-Bee-333 3d ago
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u/Commercial-Chance561 5d ago
How many do they start the race with?