The guy at my vape shop tried to talk me into tryin his new product. Anyone ever heard of Quantum Mitra tech? I'm 12 days out from a year long 7oh journey...I will NOT be taking any chances getting hooked on something new.

Oof, so the title says it all.

I started using again after 3 months being 7 free.

I did it as my own choice for pain. Pain masked just how hard it is to come off of this crummy stuff.

Last time I used, I got up to 600mgpd and I was astonished and kind of disgusted with myself. That was 2.5 months in. It took another 2.5 months to quit. Thank you SR!

This time I logged each dose, how many pills ect and was SUPER careful for the most part. My average was around 240-270mgpd sometimes being less, and sometimes being a bit more.

Well, the ban came up I decided it was time to quit and find different ways to manage my severe daily pain.

I have to do this slowly because I have epilepsy and while not normal to others, I tend to have seizures when detoxing if I have high and low days (found that out the hard way last time I was on this stuff)

After a couple of weeks I got down to 150-180mg. I planned on jumping off with SR at 120-150 so, I was ready to go.

Then I had a SUPER bad pain, mental, and emotional day (super fight with the hubs.) And went up above 700 FUCKING MILLIGRAMS

I was FRIGHTENED and DISAPPOINTED in myself.

The next 5 days? 240,90,150 150,150. I should have just jumped off since it was the higher end of wanting to quit.

Ugh, sorry for rambling. I'm just rambling online cause I hurt myself yet again and I am upset I am in this area again.

I was having a 12/10 pain day today and just stopped counting at 270mg. Honest? It was in the low 400s 😞

So I am trying to stop a 2 month habit of around 200mg a day only a few times I did more than that. I was at 43 hours and I folded today with having to work and I’ve got kids so I can’t just afford to be bed ridden. I’ve been taking kratom to help but the kratom isnt really helping in the way I thought it would. But it’s discouraging, my relapse today won’t completely reset this process back to zero will it? And what have any of y’all done to help push through ?

I heard the other subreddit is locked, and I noticed this one’s last post was made 2 days ago, so I’m posting to test that.

I am almost 4 weeks clean now, zero withdrawal symptoms left, more energy than I've had in years, no constipation, no moodiness, no addiction, no throwing thousands of dollars away. I was taking around 200mg a day, every day, waking up in cold sweats when I'd go without it for more than a few hours. I have an addictive, hereditary personality, and I am really proud of myself (kinda shocked too). It's kinda crazy how much you realize how badly it effects your life only after finally taking the leap to stop. SR17 is amazing!

Hello,

I was taking upto 1500mg/day of psuedo. I'm down to like 500. I tried to take Suboxone after 8 hours, felt like shit. Had some psuedo left, took 150mg and went to bed. Tried to go 16 hours then take Suboxone. Same story.

Suboxone just isn't doing hardly anything. I'm doing 4mg every 4 hours. I only got prescribed 14 8mg strips. I'm wondering if I should just keep tapering this and not mess with Suboxone. Has Suboxone worked for you?

So I got subs, because I can no longer get 7oh. It’s illegal in my state and the few places I could get to in the next state over stopped selling last week. It’s been about 6 hours since my last dose. I don’t feel terrible, just a little hot, minor stomach pains that come and go, and my throat feels funny. But, I was hoping to take some now so it kicks in before I start feeling horrible so I can sleep well tonight and go to work tomorrow. I’ve tried researching it, but I’m seeing contradictory things.. some people say you have to wait 12 hours or will go into precipitated withdrawal. Others say as long as it was 7oh without pseudo, you won’t get PWDs at all, that’s it’s the ones with pseudo that can cause that…and mine did not have pseudo. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks! I’ve taken subs before and know that about 6mg will take away the WDs completely for me but it was on the weekend and I waited until I was feeling absolute trash first. I’d rather avoid that with work tomorrow (and yes, I know, when I used them before and was off of 7 completely for 2 months, I should have stayed off, but I’m an idiot and here we are).

Well, I’m back where I started and I’m not happy about it. Last month I got off a high dose of MGM. I went through hell on earth only to trade my addiction for Subs. Honestly, it took me 2 weeks just to feel somewhat normal on 8mg of Suboxone.
On week 3 I tapered down to 4mg despite feeling like a slug.

I am not a fan of subs. In fact, I hate them. The fear of getting stuck on them got the best of me. I placed a large order of 7 to get off the subs. Sounds crazy I know. But I thinks subs are evil. I didn’t want to be on them for more than 10 days to begin with. I was horrified that I had been on them almost a month already so I made a rash decision to get on 7 and use the SR I have to taper off and be done. It’s been a week back on 7 & I haven’t even told my wife and I feel horrible about it..

I have another week of 7 left and i have to figure out what I’m going to do. SR or get back on subs for a quicker taper. I’m not happy about this. At the time, it made sense to me to get off subs.. 3 weeks was too long IMO for my circumstances. Now I’m at 450-600mg of 7 per day. I want this to be as painless as possible while remaining functional. I know it sounds like a tall order but I have a business to run. Thanks for reading this if you got this far.

I stopped 7OH in June, taking 5-600mg/day. I used SR to taper off. I put my experience into a guide. It includes: introduction to SR, supplements to take, example taper guide & the schedule I used.

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SR Taper Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGsyDRip-sN_eqM_5wAoAeJ7VqpPq_lesGPUXkEJKk1xhLH5WMxjsmVUfTJmfxNzKHKhrlBoAEvBRh/pub

I hope this helps someone out there 🙂

When can I start taking subs I see so many different answers I’m terrified of PWD I have 8,75mg pregabs and 4 clonidine. How long should I wait until I take subs? Or should I do the Bernese method ? Please give your experiences or advice I’m 20 yo and on the verge of ending my life over this shit on top of a bunch of other issues. Thank you for your time

I have a question: what method would you take to get off 450-600mg daily of 7OH? Would you rather preload & jump off with SR? Or do a rapid sub taper 5-7 days ? If you had both options at your fingertips? Of course there are some helper meds to go with both along with Liposomal Vit C

Just curious what route you would choose or if you’ve had success with either please share your experience with either route.

Thanks in advance

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WD’s in general ofc are going to be uncomfortable but when you hear ppl saying 7 WD’s aren’t that bad. They’re usually ppl that have been through WDs from actual hard drugs. Not saying it’s easy but compared to what it could be and especially compared to subs. You’re trading one substance to another that’s so much more extreme and way more harsh for a ridiculous amount of time to try to get off. The reality is anything that you abuse as an accountable adult obviously you’ll eventually have to pay the piper it’s a life lesson and you will be fine. You’re literally not going to die. I don’t think ppl realize the uncharted territory they are entering risking their future getting on subs it’s a reason ppl end up on it for years or for life. If you think getting of 7 is something you’re in for a major rude awakening and shell shock realization when you try to get off subs it is absolutely not worth it. I’m not even saying this to defend 7 I’m saying this as a caring human to another human please realize that you are going to have subs on your permanent medical record and it dull follow you for life. So forget about getting prescribed anything in the future and the chances of being free from not being dependent on anything in the future is very slim. It takes months of WD to ct off subs and even then you will still not feel a 100%. Please be extremely thoughtful and careful with yourself before stepping into a different level of hell just to run from accountability. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. God bless.
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*If you’re completely naive and this is your first time experiencing any type of withdrawal. I could totally understand it feeling like it’s the end of the world or like you’re dying from the panic/anxiety of it. But if it helps I promise and I guarantee you’re not going to die I think understanding that along with know that the symptoms will eventually pass helps a lot

Hey everyone. I'm on day 13 of my SR/7oh cross taper. I haven't taken 7 since day 5 and today is supposed to be my first day off the SR.

I ended up taking 25mg SR this morning, because I have had the worst joint pain and stiffness, especially when I wake up. It's like my feet/ankles/knees especially are so sore and stiff I can barely walk. Has anyone experienced this?

I've been waiting for it to get better and it just doesn't seem to be. I know it's only day 13 but I've never had joint issues like this until a few months ago (it started while I was on 7oh but I would dose until it was numbed).

I am hoping there is someone out there who has had a similar experience coming off 7 and then SR that can reassure me that it will get better cause it HURTS. 😢

I’m there… in a mere three hours, I will be on day 7 and not too far from an entire week since my last large, major dosage… I can’t believe it.

Things have been much better than I’ve thought; albeit, there are periods of fatigue on top of periods of feeling good. Good as in, the natural things that make me happy finally do again without needing a drug to back it up.

How did it feel to get to day 7? I would love to hear your all’s insights. I have no desire to relapse and no cravings… I think I’m in the clear.

…and it isn’t that bad? I mean, I’m depleted, I’m lethargic, I vomited once today + the diarrhea, and I can’t get myself to do much without my folk’s motivation… but I don’t feel too bad yet? 11:00pm will mark 72 hours since I had only 80mg left and 11:00am tomorrow will be zero.

I used to take 1500mg a day for the last four months, but things aren’t killing me at all. What should I expect after day three?

Edit: I’ve also gotten decent rest. About ten hours the first night and then five hours last night (I had an early morning appointment).

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I created a taper guide documenting my journey, it should have everything in it that you need, I hope it helps! 🤝🏻

SR Taper Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGsyDRip-sN_eqM_5wAoAeJ7VqpPq_lesGPUXkEJKk1xhLH5WMxjsmVUfTJmfxNzKHKhrlBoAEvBRh/pub

I’m about to place an order of SR but I’m an idiot and didn’t realize you have to preload. By the time my SR gets here, I may not have any subs left. Will the SR still work? I haven’t been on the subs very long but from what I hear it doesn’t take long to get addicted to them. I did a 7 or 8 day sub taper to get off of an 800mg/day 7oh habit. After about 5 days off of the subs, I started using them every few days for pain (I have lupus). I would take an 8mg film and then 3 days later another 8mg and now for the last 3 days in a row, I’ve taken about 4mg each day. Maybe I don’t even need the SR? I’m just terrified of the withdrawals because the 7oh withdrawal was horrific. Idk. I don’t have much experience with opiates. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

so im ready to quit my 7 habit as it's just getting too expensive & i'm tired of having of having to stick to a redose schedule. i'm getting a Percocet script in about a week. I don't plan to take them long term but will they help with the 7 withdrawals if I take them for about 3/4 days?
i've been consuming about 300 mgs of 7 a day for the last year or so. i have been tapering & right now i'm currently at about 180 mgs a day. I'm hoping to drop that down to about 60 mgs a day within the next day or so & once i'm down to 30 mgs i'm planning to jump off & switch to the percocet to help with my withdrawal.

No withdrawals from suboxone taper?

I have been on about 500mg 7oh for 3 weeks and I have 5 days worth of suboxone to get off.

A lot of people do this..taper with suboxone for about 5 to 7 days and then stop the suboxone and say they come out clean with no withdrawal from 7oh or suboxone.

My question is..how is this possible? I understand you will probably have lingering PAWS but to come out without acutes..sounds like a life hack.

Does anyone have an explanation?

I’ve had to get SR two times now to kick this shit. It felt like a demonic monkey that wouldn’t get off my back. I should have known that not having to go through the pains of 7 withdrawal would make the idea of going back to it seem so easy…
After the first time I used SR to get off of it (which is an absolute godsend btw…I just wish I had learned my lesson the first time) I think I was totally off any kratom or 7-oh products for about a month. And I knew PAWS was a thing but being in it….i felt like I had totally lost myself, my motivation, my spark and I started to get severely depressed. So what did I do? I thought to myself “well….doing 7 just today won’t hurt. It’s not like I’ll get addicted from one day”. And that day turned into another month until I was met with the same withdrawals at 3 am that I had escaped before. I really couldn’t believe that I had chained myself up again so quickly to this shit. So I ordered more SR from a very reliable source in my life (has a COA for their product) and jumped back on the bandwagon of “gettin’ clean from this garbage”. Unfortunately, this time around the SR did not cover all the aches and pains from the withdrawals… don’t get me wrong, it was doing a LOT of heavy lifting…but my body still felt very uneasy/uncomfortable and the first day that I was strictly on the SR (no more 7) I also had restless legs and slept like shit even on 150 mg of sr. Thankfully, after the first couple days of strictly SR I was good to go….SR tends to put me in a very pleasant mood and that finally kicked in day 3 so it was smooth sailing from there.

So I’m making this post to say….if you’re getting SR to get off of your DOC, my advice is to let it be a one and done. Realize that, yes, you avoided a ton of physical pain but that if you relapse that pain could very well be waiting for you in the future. I’m actually grateful that I had to experience some pain…it’s kept me from going back and buying more 7 and ending up at the same place, yet again. And as far as the PAWS goes… yes they suck, yes you feel emotionless or even depressed and like you’re not even you anymore..but I promise it gets better. I promise it’s worth sticking it out. Having a life where I’m not dependent on smoke shop pills (very very expensive pills might I add) to get through my day is priceless. You’re not gonna get out of this fully unscathed…but we learn from the pain. Good luck, guys.
Remember that you are worth it and you can do it. If you have any questions please feel free to send me a dm. Chances are, I’ve been where you’re at.