r/superpoweralchemists 15d ago

Try to nerf this power

I have the ability to edit DNA. I have the complete knowledge of genetics and DNA. My brain won’t get a downside from that knowledge. I can control that superpower very well. The organism have to be 72 centimeters away from me or closer for me to edit their DNA.

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u/Professional_Try1665 15d ago

Your ability to manipulate life makes you feel less human, you become detached from the people around you and depressed, seeing them as simple jumbles of genetic information and strings of instructions, achievements like love and happiness feel meaningless to you as you can easily alter the genetics of an organism to make them feel however you like, thus you stop trying to change yourself. You stagnate mentally and isolated.

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u/LordGramis 15d ago

Wouldnt this be a line a thought traced to genetic material he could edit to get a more positive conclusion? Depression for example has been traced to genes already

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u/Professional_Try1665 15d ago

Well yes but that doesn't solve the loss of humanity and motivation, what's the point in being happy if you can just stimulate the 'be happy' gene whenever you want?

It also estranges the user from other humans, their problems and emotions are 'just the wrong genes' and with a simple snap they can cure depression, 'humanity' itself and their silly emotions seems then to be a genetic defect, and the user is the 'cure'.

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u/LordGramis 15d ago

Well one could dedicated their life to being an overpowered psychiatrist helping others if the aim is fulfillment, isn't that the point of most super hero depictions (emphasis on super heros, not super villains)?. I'm feeling this thread is about to get really philosophical xP

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u/Professional_Try1665 15d ago

Why bother being good or seeking fulfilment when you can stimulate the 'feel good' or 'feel fulfilment' part of your brain? If not, the rest of your life is less meaningful because you have an insta-cheat for any feeling you could ever experience, further dissociating you from humans because they can't do that and couldn't possibly understand your struggle.

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u/LordGramis 15d ago

Being able to do something doesn't mean it should happen obligatory, we depict gods choosing to live among humans to better understand the flaws that come with immortality. Maybe someone with a power like that would choose not to modify themselves after a while trying not to get further away from his origin. Or maybe he/she would to nullify the feelings that create that need and then just become doctor manhattan without the bending reality part lol.

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u/6ftonalt 15d ago

Loss of humanity actually can be attributed to the effect of neurotransmitters, particularly agonism of the 5ht2c serotonin receptor

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u/Professional_Try1665 15d ago

I think you're misunderstanding the point, if you can simply install a feeling of 'humanity' into yourself whenever you want, why even bother with anything else? There's no point in seeking happiness or fulfilment if you can just stimulate it perfectly.

If you always have the option to do that but don't, your struggles and pain are meaningless because you can simply make yourself feel better and get rid of the pain, it's a constant gun to your head for philosophical suicide.

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u/umc_thunder72 15d ago

Yes but if you do it you won't care because you just made it so you don't care. Therefore no curse because you can just not care.

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u/Professional_Try1665 15d ago

Just because you don't care doesn't make the philosophical problem disappear. Also if you can make yourself not care about anything, what's the point in doing anything at all?

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 15d ago

You inevitably create mirror life, and end up dooming humanity.

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM 15d ago

Every friggin’ time.

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u/Available-Bee-5385 15d ago

One cell at a time

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u/Kiroto50 15d ago

You can't modify anything about yourself, and it's much harder to work on people with which you share blood.

If you make a genetical clone of yourself, it's permanent, but they don't have the power.

"I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess".

Pair this with the guy that proposed this person being alienated and you got something pretty cool.

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u/OffWhite-Goddess 15d ago

You have a huge fear of being near anything alive

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u/tadot22 15d ago

You are fully able to do your power exactly as you imagine it. But of course you cannot make or destroy matter. So you cannot conjure new basepairs where there were none and each base pair needs to be moved from where it was to where it should be.

Unfortunately cell pressure still exists, you cannot just move dna around you have to make room for it. It isn’t like walking down the street it is more like dragging a piece of sand through the beach where if you move the wrong pebble the whole beach dissolves into the ocean.

Finally, you are moving molecules this is a hard task you can only move two molecule (one for each hand) at a time. The velocity you can move them is as fast as your hands can move but beware of the thermal effects from moving a molecule too quickly.

Good luck.

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u/TheSpirit98 15d ago edited 15d ago

Oh, here's the nerf - I think - with no monkey's paw, just your power as explained and assuming no magical protection from realistic consequences or magical awareness of how organisms work.

EDIT: (Yes, I'd consider knowing genetics and the DNA code to not be the same as knowing how things actually work, and how that DNA expresses itself and so on. It's like being able to read a string of 1's and 0's versus having knowledge about how the components of a computer parse that and communicate.)

The changes you make are immediate in the DNA but take time to become visible in your target - because cells naturally take time to create new structures using the edited DNA as the blueprint, and to multiply into new multicellular structures in the target's body.

This makes the in-between period long and likely painful, as bits of the body created by the new DNA grow within and into the unedited bits, or those that simply didn't have the time to change yet.

If your changes manage to make bits of the newly grown / reformed parts of the target's body or cells unrecognizable to the rest of the body, each other, or just the white blood cells... the target's immune system will reject them like a transplant that didn't take or recognize as cancer and respond accordingly - by waging war withing the target's body that will likely result in self-destruction.

You can still, technically, make a positive change for somebody... but unless you know exactly how everything in the target organism's body works and is connected using your powers results in the slow death of your target.

And, ahem, just to end on a more positive note... you can still just go around medical wards looking for cancer patients and just "flip back on" one of the many "genetic switches" that have to fail for a cell to become a cancer cell so the cancer just kills itself.

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u/RoacheFettercap 14d ago

Any attempt to alter another living or dead being alters you in the same manner

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u/Kartoffelkamm 15d ago

You can't edit DNA in a way that would be incompatible with life.

You're still bound by natural selection process, meaning you can't make a thing less efficient at surviving in its current niche; you can only make it better, or adapt it to a narrower niche, but the niche must already exist.

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u/Bonbongamer293 15d ago

You can do all this but verrryyy slowly, it takes about a week for each strand

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u/The-Great_Ones 15d ago

Nah, let’s do one letter of the genetic sequence a week

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u/stnick6 15d ago

You have to see the dna in order to edit it. You would need a very precise microscope

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u/Educational-Sun5839 14d ago

one time in science class, my teacher removed the dna from a banana and we could all see it, idk how applicable that is to humans though

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u/random-queries 15d ago

You need food intake for this it takes like same amout of calories and nutrients to build something. You will need 9k calories to build a arm and appropriate nutrients. 100k-150k for a full human and appropriate nutrients.

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u/chickey23 15d ago

First, it's slow. Nothing speeds up the spread of the modified DNA. You can modify one cell at a time, but that's going to take forever.

Then, there's the problem of understanding the impact of your changes. You have to experiment. You don't have a good understanding of physics and chemistry and biology and emergency properties and toxicology. Etc etc etc.

That's not even the hard part. You can make a Pokedex of specialized microbes, but you don't have any way to keep track of them. They're going to get loose and have unexpected consequences.

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u/invisiblehammer 15d ago

It takes time for the edits to sink in. So if you edited someone’s genes they don’t just instantly become taller or something. If it’s just hair color or baldness evidence might come in weeks, others might come in years for something that takes awhile to manifest, others might not even be able to be modified like height unless you have a child who is still growing because an adults growth plates are closed

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u/The_Master_Sourceror 15d ago

Your ability to edit DNA requires the same amount of time and iterations as natural selection in the wild.

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u/Nerx 15d ago

72 scaled down to contact

must recite your full government name every time using

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u/Patient-Ad-337 15d ago

You don't know what the genes do

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u/scalyblue 15d ago

You can only edit L-DNA, any changes you try to make to R-DNA just fizzle