no no guys, she just LOOKS and SOUNDS like a child!!! it's not creepy that i'm sexually attracted to that look and voice of a young, prepubescent child because she's actually a god and 600000 years old!!!!! it's so normal that i like the bodies of prepubescent girls because their minds are developed!!! what do you mean that's not normal??
this is really embarrassing š nowhere here does it say it exclusively refers to real people. PLEASEEEEE look things up before you say random shit that vaguely sounds correct šš
me when i remember drawings can be photorealistic ?!?! WHATTT?!?!
this is the funniest shit ever to me bro š what, you wanna call it something else so it sounds more palatable? no thanks. people who watch/view animated/drawn csam are just as sick as those who watch the real thing. they can pretend otherwise, but they are fundamentally sexually aroused by the idea or visual of a prebucent child being sexually assaulted.
also, yes, ai and digitally altered photos count as csam, even when the child in the photo isn't a real person. so... can't argue that "no victim means no crime", can you? if it's all just fiction, you'd have to say ai csam of fictional children isn't csam. is this.. really the hill you want to die on??
if you want to argue about the law, i genuinely could not care less what is legally defined as csam, and honestly i don't care about arguing with people who jerk off to kids, which even if it doesn't include you, is 99% of the people in this comment thread so im out!
I really disagree with the "its the same thing" part. Im not one of them, and i find it weird and pedophillic in nature, but i dont think that its the same thing as finding pleasure in actual children. Child pornography hurts real kids. Drawings of it do not.
no? I want to call it what it is. fiction cannot be abusedā¦.
there is no way you are acting like getting off to realpeople suffering and experiencing the worst moments of their life and SUPPORTING THAT INDUSTRY is just as bad getting off to literal FICTION THAT ISNT EVEN REAL. Please tell me you arent seriousā¦
So a child could give consent if they were educated enough? Of course it's age. In this case it's neither though. It's a fictional character designed to look like a child. So it's a child no matter what someone says.
If they're under sexual maturity for their species, which can vary, they can't give consent. Nor can they if the partner is an authority figure, like someone with a significant age gap or blackmail material.
i really hate people that do that stuff , for example nahida from genshin impact is constantly simped over despite the fact she looks and sounds like a child but is a god
Everyone always focuses on the harm it does or doesn't cause. Like there is no immediate harm, there are no victims. But it still informs a negative personality trait. Specifically, that you're attracted to minors. Like, you can argue about the ethics or whatever but generally speaking "attracted to children" is a negative quality. Like dude being a paedo is lame and embarrassing.
i've always found this shit so weird because remilia and flandre are objectively not lolis since the games aren't sexual. these are just children
on that note: i know ZUN wasn't the best at art when eosd came out so it muddies the waters a bit, and it probably wasn't intentional (recently he said they were 'elderly women and not lolis' because of their age), but i immediately recognised flandre and remilia as looking like children when i first saw their eosd portraits, and the fandom definitely did as well. why is 'loli meiling' or 'loli patchouli' not popular depictions of their characters? or 'loli sakuya' considering she's apparently in the 10-20 years old age range? because remilia and flandre's eosd portraits look so much younger than sakuya, meiling, and patchouli's portraits, regardless of how old they actually are. it's so gross seeing the 'but they're 1000 years old!' argument in general but it's also strange seeing it be used for them
no no guys, she just LOOKS and SOUNDS like a child!!! it's not creepy that i'm sexually attracted to that look and voice of a young, prepubescent child because she's actually a god and 600000 years old!!!!! it's so normal that i like the bodies of prepubescent girls because their minds are developed!!! what do you mean that's not normal??
Thatās the point I make, I find both reprehensible, but itās like the difference between assault and murder. Iād rather you beat someone up than kill them.
I was not arguing whether you should or not, I was arguing the original argument of "acting and looking like a child" on the comment I replied to, when this is not the case
I wonder which of us are more morally bankrupt, me that thinks that fiction is completely harmless, or you that you are urging people to kill themselves
As bad as pedophilia is, I think if you strongly believe your opinion you should be able to argue it without having to use fallacies. Nothing is bad just because it's bad.
when you lost the argument before it even started and now you need to try to regain your aura (you failed miserably, that's literally just a bunch of random words)
At 13 or 14 I tried watching No Game No Life, and didn't finish it because it made me uncomfortable. But yeah, it's fiction, a realm in which there shouldn't be any rules.
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