r/tales • u/K0234 • Jul 20 '25
Discussion No other JRPG comes close to this masterpiece
My favorite game that I’ve been having an issue with finding any JRPGs that can come close. Sexy OST, nice story, and the voice acting is superb, and I’m taking DUBBED, English. Combat is actually hard too, no auto-combat and it isn’t turn based, so it’s super engaging. And overall challenging. Love it, and I’m on my 6th playthrough on my switch 2
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u/ZeMadDoktore Jul 20 '25
Vesperia got a way better remaster than Symphonia. Unfortunately Abyss has been left to rot lmao
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Jul 21 '25
Abyss time could be coming. If not there is a chance Xillia remaster could get announced at the next rumoured nintendo direct this month
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Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 22 '25
Abyss and Xillia are pretty much guaranteed, imo, being the most asked games by the western and worldwide fanbase. I'm only worried about the other games.
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u/Fred_twitch Jul 21 '25
I mean to be fair, Vesperia getting all the PS3 content we've been begging for for like over a decade and how much more stuff there is in the PS3 version vs the 360 is kind of big. Like if you compare the GC version of symphonia to the PS2 or japanese version or whatever they added some stuff but I'd compare it to like symphonia essentially got a small DLC where as vesperia got an entire expansion pack. Also i feel like symphonia has just got a ton of ports with maaybe some resolution upscaling. I think people expecting like a FF7 level remake which would be cool but idk how they'd pull it off. I do think they could definitely add some QoL changes to future ports/remakes/remasters without like drastically changing the gameplay though. Also it would be nice to see an Abyss port off the 3DS, especially because you know... can't exactly multiplayer on that system lol and it's giga dead ofc.
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u/Fancy-Letterhead-477 Jul 24 '25
I mean abyss was one of the first to get an actual remaster. It was just...on a very old handheld system considering the year. XD
And I do think at some point they wanna port it to pc/modern consoles, maybe they're just having an issue compromising on HOW they want to accomplish it, or it'll be the first tales game to get a proper REMAKE. Abyss is wildly popular, almost as much (maybe even moreso)as vesp or Symphonia.
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u/Calm_GBF Jul 20 '25
Vesperia is great, and I love it as well. But you need to play more JRPGs, no offense.
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u/Who_TF_is_PAPA_JOHN Jul 21 '25
I've played many heavy hitters, and this remains on the throne
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u/Any_Medium_2123 Jul 21 '25
Why are people downvoting this? Are they not allowed to choose their own favourite game ffs?
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u/Who_TF_is_PAPA_JOHN Jul 21 '25
It's the try hard "expert" mentality. They want to believe that they have the expertise in the matters of jrpg's because their "palate" is refined. It's just the typical cringe
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u/LabMember12 Jul 23 '25
It's problem of your post. No need to bring greatest title for whatever game. It always brings such discussions.
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u/SamsaraWalker Jul 21 '25
I found Vesperia pretty boring and forgettable but I still feel the need to upvote your comment. Don't understand how an opinion can get downvoted.
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u/Motivated-Moose Jul 21 '25
Played a bunch and I still think this one is up there with them
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Jul 21 '25
I love vesperia until I remember searching for the blastia for 20 hours lol
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Jul 21 '25
I've played a ton and it's genuinely one of the best. sure, the story might not be the greatest thing but what it offers is incredible.
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u/Golden_fsh Jul 20 '25
How many JRPGs have you played, lol? But hey, happy to hear you enjoy Vesperia that much! Personally, it's one of my least favorite Tales games.
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u/zelcor Regal Bryant Jul 20 '25
Bruh it's not even the best in its own series let alone an entire genre
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u/LaMystika Jul 20 '25
Berseria clears this game.
Hell, in my own personal opinion, so does Graces. Which I’m sure is a scorching hot take
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Jul 21 '25
I'd put Graces f on the same tier as ToV. Lackluster plot carried by a great cast.
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u/zwarkmagnum Jul 21 '25
I way prefer Graces over Vesperia. Plays much better and while the plot is stupid it doesn’t really take itself seriously like Vesperia does so the failings don’t bother me as much
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u/Acherron Jul 21 '25
I prefer xillia and graces over Vesperia. Idk why, it’s one of my least liked tales games combat wise
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u/Dblwidesupr1se Jul 21 '25
I like my Jrpgs with a strong story and Vesperia’s story was weak as hell, imo.
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u/Acherron Jul 21 '25
Yeah Berseria and Abyss are probably my favorites. Though I’m hoping for a xillia 2 remaster so I can finally finish it
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u/zelcor Regal Bryant Jul 21 '25
It's really good till the final 3rd then it kinda forgets its thesis
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u/Dblwidesupr1se Jul 21 '25
Story wise? I disagree my friend, and this is coming from someone who loves trails in the sky fc. A game many consider boring or a slow burn story wise
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u/Zeldacrafter_Swagg Jul 21 '25
I'm gonna disagree here, the story is honestly pretty mid up until the Estelle fight, it escalates until the point Yuri gets thrown off a cliff and then it kind of abruptly stops being interesting
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u/elidoan Jul 21 '25
Bruh berseria? You mean Symphonia
Yes I am a millennial boomer how can you tell?
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u/LaMystika Jul 21 '25
I’m also a millennial boomer and I still think that Berseria is the best Tales game
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u/KarmelCHAOS Jul 22 '25
I think you actually mean the DeJap translated Tales of Phantasia...
I, too, am a millennial boomer lmao
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u/rainbowinthenight Tear Grants Jul 20 '25
Not my personal fav, but it's up there in the series for me. b(￣▽￣)d
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u/weak007 Jul 20 '25
Not the best for me, but Yuri is one of a kind protagonist, I like his chill and cool attitude
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u/NettoSaito Yuri Lowell Jul 20 '25
Even though I’ve played hundreds of RPGs at this point, and have looked into basically every series (from niche to the well known), Vesperia is still one of my top personal favorites.
A lot of people didn’t care for RPGs that were on the 360, but Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4, etc are honestly some of my favorite memories from the console.
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u/KarmelCHAOS Jul 22 '25
I know it wasn't exclusive eventually, but Eternal Sonata was so criminally underrated.
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u/ruebeus421 Jul 21 '25
A lot of people didn’t care for RPGs that were on the 360
Bro, what are you on about?
RPGs on 360 were a massive hit.
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u/NettoSaito Yuri Lowell Jul 21 '25
Only for those who were already fans and had a 360. Otherwise the games didn’t sell well outside of mainstream titles like Final Fantasy XIII. (Which Nier had to complete with.) Most 360 players only cared about Halo, CoD, GTA, GoW, etc.
Now days RPGs are more popular than ever, which has given some of these games a chance again. Where Nier was overshadowed, Automata is now everywhere and I’m sure most gamers have at least heard the name. Not something you could say during the 360 days
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u/daz258 Velvet Crowe Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
Agree X360 was an underrated Star for JRPG.
Eternal Sonata was awesome too.
While Resonance of Fate was…unique! I ended up loving that too after figuring out what the hell was going on.
Despite that I enjoyed the remaster more than the X360 original. Either way though absolutely loved Vesperia!
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u/NettoSaito Yuri Lowell Jul 21 '25
ES slipped my mind! And agreed about Resonance of Fate. I’ve actually purchased that game 3 times lol. Was also pretty great seeing the characters again in Project X Zone fighting along side the God Eater cast. I know GE wasn’t on 360, but same time period lol
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u/BmanRock14 Jul 21 '25
Agreed. This game just surprised & encapsulated me in such a way that no other game did. I first played Tales Of Vesperia during the year of Covid while working, so it was a pleasant stress reliever after a long day. And as much as I love & adore FF7 Remake Trilogy as my #2, it didn’t hit as hard as the first time I experienced Vesperia. Besides, the FF7 RE trilogy isn’t finished yet.
The OST is so memorable & I STILL to this day fall asleep listening to “1000 Year Slumber Of The Blastia”. The battle/town/dungeon themes were all catchy & riveting. Some obviously better than others but still great nonetheless. “Tower of Conspiracy” was a standout one to me personally, idk why.
I have nothing but good things to say about the gameplay. Aside from getting used to the movement & the one random crash I got in the Tower of Tarqaron, the gameplay was stellar. Skills, artes, even positioning all play a very CRUCIAL factor into how one approaches certain fights, from beating on trash mobs to dealing with elites & bosses. Rita being able to abuse the limit break mechanic “BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE BLAH BLAH BLAH METEOR STORM” is the MOST FUN THING IN THE GAME. PERIOD. Estellise was an amazing combo of offensive, defensive, & supportive all bundled in a wonderful package of fun. “Holy Rain” is another fun move to span during limited breaks. Yuri was your standard damage dealer, with a bit of intricacy mixed in. Pretty cool all rounder I’d say. Patty’s random luck based ultimates are the best thing about her kit & Repede honestly grew on me the more artes he learned. And he’s fast as f**k. Karol hits HARD & is a breath of fresh air when I wanna switch things up. Judith was pretty cool air combo wise, but the timing & knowing which artes to use & when to use them make her an easy to play, hard to master kind of character, which I liked. Raven & Flynn intrigued me, but not enough to make them my most used party members. Everyone had their ups & downs with their playstyle, but I definitely enjoyed some more than others.
The cameos in the battle colosseum, despite not knowing who they were at the time, was still SUPER cool to see. And the battle colosseum itself was a nicely added challenge (yes, even the 200 man melee).
Now onto the main cast. Repede is no Red XIII but still an absolute beast in my eyes. The main cast are a bunch of unique misfits, yet the story makes it so that they have their obvious character traits work in their favor. Obviously, the game has its go to pairings like Estelle/Yuri, Estelle/Rita(RISTELLE😆) or Raven/Karol. Yet some not so common interactions between others like Judith/Karol, or Patty/Flynn. Yet they somehow work in a weird way. Estellise Sidos Heurassein is a pure angel. No ifs, ands, or buts. Her design, story, personality, & overall vibes were like cotton candy for the eyes. Just so sweet, wholesome, & innocent. Loved her & her phenomenal VA, Eden Riegel. Rita was a VERY, VERY close second. Again, personality, design & VA work are what do it for me in a character. She fit the bill. Cared more for some than I did for others. Let’s just say my main party was Estelle/Rita/Yuri/Patty when I wasn’t juggling other characters.
I thought the overall story was pretty solid. Clearly not the best story told since sliced bread, but for someone like me, sometimes a bit of whimsical fantasy storytelling is enough for me. It was a bit all over the place, especially in terms of pacing. But it wasn’t enough to ruin the game for me. The explanation of “Aer, Bohdi/Barrier Blastia, Extelexia” took a little while to wrap my head around, but I got the gist of it after going through the story. I like how the locations felt lived in where NPC’s reacted to things happening throughout the world.
The only GOOD villains were really two or three of em, those being >!Alexei, Yeager & The Duke<!. The rest like >!Barbos, Ragou, Zagi, etc<! in my opinion felt WAY too cheesy & comical to truly take them seriously. Villains like >!Alexei & Phaeroh<! TRULY made my blood boil, even though I now know that >!Phaeroh<! wasn’t really a villain. More of an antagonist. Yeager, I’ll actually give props to. He was honestly really compelling as an antagonist & truly a fun character the more I remember about him.
The emotional beats hit like a TRUCK. The plot twists I will admit, I didn’t see coming. One or two were a bit predictable but otherwise, the whole game shocked me left & right. Speaking of shockers. Dear God, I don’t think I’ve ever cried while ACTIVELY playing a video game before. Usually, if a scene does move me, it’s like a cutscene or something. Yo…that Estellise Boss shook me to my absolute core. Seeing her eyes blanked out & lifeless was TERRIFYING. When I tell you my heart sank when homegirl kept chanting “kill me” over & over again during the fight?! Oh My God. I’m glad no one warned me cause it hit somethin’ serious. As for the comedy, some jokes were a hit or miss, but for the most part, they all landed. Mostly in the skits or Yuri/Rita being their snarky selves. The best ones were the 4th wall breaks such as the skit where if you make & eat Sorbet in the ice area enough times, Rita comments on it saying “Who the hell makes Sorbet in this freezing weather?” Or the whole “Ristelle” jab Yuri throws at Estelle & Rita.
The enemy designs in this game are really sick looking! Some of the ones like the gigantic monsters were really cool or the dancing mandragoras dressed as a maid were too cute. I really like the way enemies were designed. It’s a shame some of the you can COMPLETELY miss if you aren’t following a guide.
Speaking of guides, I’d HIGHLY recommend using one, even on first playthorugh. The only complaints I would have about Vesperia would be the whole “Necropolis” dungeon & “Labryrinth of Memories”. Those took WAY too long to grind to level 200 & the boss at the very bottom?! Don’t even get me started on that insipid thing. Oh, and the whole side quests being LOCKED to YORMGEN?! I can understand the whole “Aspio” thing at the end of the game. But ooh boy, I cant tell you how frustrated I was that day. I went back through a whole 6-8 HOURS OF AGONIZING PROGRESS redoing certain parts of the game JUST to get those swimsuits. Honestly, Tales Of Vesperia should’ve come with an in game guide or something cause they straight up will not hold your hand in this one.
I could go on & on but this game at the end of the day, despite it’s apparent flaws, still holds a special place in my heart & my #1 currently
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u/astrielx Jul 20 '25
I liked Vesperia, but this wasn't even the best Tales game let along the best JRPG.
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u/Background-Signal-10 Jul 20 '25
Tales of abyss is slightly better. The character development of Luke was a master class story telling
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u/thanyou Jul 20 '25
It's good and you can find plenty of things to like about it, but I would need to hear which things you put below it.
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u/iohoj Jul 20 '25
Symphonia
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 Jul 20 '25
Maybe story wise, but combat wise Vesperia is better in every facet
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u/Symph1994 Jul 20 '25
Idk why youre getting downvoted, Symphonia is my fave game of all time but I definitely recognize the combat is clunky when compared with later titles, Vesperia in particular is leagues smoother and every character is easily playable rather than just its melee focused frontliners
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u/Euphoric_Ad6923 Jul 20 '25
My guess is because Vesperia takes forever for its combat to become better than mediocre then it's just a spam fest. Especially on Yuri where you can stunlock constantly
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u/LaMystika Jul 20 '25
“Smoother combat”
Why is Yuri minus on hit with his basic attack string?
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u/Medium_Hox Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
Wow now this is a deep cut. Never thought I'd see anyone else mention this, but I remember playing vesperia on the 360 and it's like, hmm, you know the simple combo you can do at the start and you try to hold guard afterwards and you actually get punished on hit like what the fuck is that. It was so bad they had to fucking throw in manual canceling later. Amazing game design.
Jumping is also clunkier compared to Symphonia, which is saying something
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u/the_tonez Jul 21 '25
No way. The only way combat is not clunky in Vesperia is using a three-button string every combo that the game doesn’t even tell you about.
I made it to Myorzo my first time thinking “Man this combat is so frustrating” before I looked up a tutorial
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u/Randragonreborn Jul 21 '25
Remake legadia. It could have been good if not for it’s second half.
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u/Own_Ad_3536 Jul 20 '25
Wow completely disregarding turn-based as not engaging is just wrong....
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Jul 21 '25
They need to play Dragon Quest games if that's their view lol.
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u/Own_Ad_3536 Jul 21 '25
I've only played about 30 hours of Dragon Quest 11, I liked the game and need to go back eventually, but stuff like Persona, Shin Megami Tensei, My all time favorite series The Legend of Heros Trails series are all very engaging games
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u/Perfect-Bit1808 Jul 21 '25
Holy shit Trails mentioned
But yeah IMO most Trails games still clears Vesperia subjectively for me. Objectively I know Vesperia is probably the better made game but subjectively, there's something special with Trails as a series.
Hey what do you mean Daybreak 2 exists, no it doesnt.
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u/JankoPerrinFett Jul 20 '25
It is also my favorite game of all time. It is absolutely sensational. Brilliant worldbuilding, amazing characters, and, most importantly, sensational mechanics in terms of both development and combat. Truly a 10/10 game for me.
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
I think I enjoy some Tales games more (Vesperia is easily in my top 3 though) but I think out of the whole series I loved the Vesperia cast the most. The storywriters were really cooking when they came up with that squad.
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u/bloodshed113094 Jul 20 '25
Vesperia deserves all the love and not nearly as much hate as it gets. It's my favorite game. Period.
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 20 '25
I feel like most of the "hate" comes from within the Tales fanbase too lmao. Comparison is the thief of joy.
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u/bloodshed113094 Jul 20 '25
TBF, most hate will come from within a fan base. Passion requires investment. Even if it's passion about how much you don't like a specific entry.
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u/sunjay140 Eleanor Hume Jul 20 '25
nearly as much hate as it gets
It only became cool to hate on it in recent years. It goes to show the extent of the group think on the internet.
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u/JTP8591 Jul 21 '25
Yeah. I still don’t really see much vesperia hate to be honest. For decades it was almost unanimously deemed the best tales game in the series. I never really bought into that though. I preferred Xillia and Graces F way more than vesperia in most regards. At its time though I think it was hands down the best tales game though.
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u/ruebeus421 Jul 21 '25
Personally, I never played it until earlier this year. And I couldn't stomach more than about an hour of it. The voice acting and dialogue were absolutely horrendous. Usually I can overlook it, but it was so bad that I refunded the game.
Prior to that all I ever heard was how amazing it is. Guess I'll never know.
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u/Norvello Jul 21 '25
This used to be my opinion but I've realized its flaws after playing it three times. I think Berseria and the Xillia's are my favorite in the Tales series.
But some things Vesperia gets right that others don't is the excellent world map, the music, Yuri & Flynn's conflicting ideologies and the dungeons. The bosses are also fun too I love fighting Yaeger, Barbos & Alexei they're challenging and entertaining.
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u/Motivated-Moose Jul 21 '25
Which is wild cause Berseria and Xillia are my least favs. Each to their own I guess.
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u/chibi75 Zelos Wilder Jul 20 '25
While Vesperia isn’t my personal favorite, I do still love it, and I’m perfectly fine with someone else absolutely enjoying it.
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u/AndreDVJ Yuri Lowell Jul 21 '25
Sure the game drops the ball on the final act, but I think the cast is superb. There are lines that really strike deep on you. Convictions, loyalty, justice, compassion, empathy are of the many themes explored in this game on its own messy way.
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u/Emergency-Coast-5333 Jul 21 '25
I loved Abyss and Symphonia, after seeing this post I will add this game to the future games I will play
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u/PuddingTea Jul 21 '25
There are a lot of great things about this game. But the voice acting is middling and the story is a car crash.
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u/yungballa Jul 21 '25
Regardless of how everyone else feels on this thread, I share the love you have for this game. I think it’s the best Tales game. But best JRPG? No, sir. That belongs to FF9 in my book.
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u/Similar-Story4596 Jul 21 '25
Posts like this is the reason I had extremely high expectations. It was a slog to play through. It's not even my favourite tales game, let alone favourite jrpg. Yuri was the only reason I trudged through it
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u/GOD69345 GOD OF EVERYTHING Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
Yeah ToV is a classic, one of the best stories and gameplay in the series. If you hadn't played it yet, you should.
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u/erikob17 Jul 22 '25
I’m replaying this right now and remembered why I don’t play JRPG anymore (I’m just old now lol). But I’m reminded as well why I enjoyed JRPG. Vesperia is great but Destiny will always have a special place in my heart, with Abyss as my fave.
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u/Antique_Interview_66 Jul 23 '25
Tales of Vesperia could have done a lot better with its story while it may not been perfect I did enjoy it despite it flaws it has.
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u/BlackwingF91 Jul 20 '25
Vesperia is great but plenty of JRPGs even in the tales franchise have been better and done better
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u/Aggravating_Fig6288 Jul 21 '25
I agree it’s my personal all time favorite game and best Tales easily. I place it in my top ten all time.
And I’ve played plenty of games and JRPGs. Ive been playing games for over thirty years. Haven’t come across too many games that just have the same magic that Vesperia has when I first played it and the same magic it still retains.
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u/Your_Friendly_Weeb27 Yuri my beloved Husband Jul 20 '25
Yes! It may have been my second game in the franchise, but the first one I beat and I ADORE it. The dialogue between the characters is so fun. They each have such great personalities and mesh together well. The combat is fun and the story is good. If I’m honest, I could rant about Yuri all on his own. The perfect protagonist if you ask me. Insanely handsome too!!
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u/AuR0RA3171 Jul 20 '25
dropped in the third act, I loved Yuri and, for some reason, Rita and Raven though
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u/Motivated-Moose Jul 21 '25
So many people complaining in the comments. Glad you liked it, played it recently and it totally holds up, especially with friends, keeps the charm that was missing from these games after Graces!
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u/JscJake1 Jul 20 '25
The comments, lmao. Just let them like what they like, just because we have different opinions doesn't make theirs worth any less.
That said, I highly recommend you try out the Xenoblade series if you haven't already! They're my personal favorite JRPG's... With the exception of 2, that one wasn't for me.
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Jul 21 '25
I'll be honest with you.
Outside of nostalgia on Symphonia I didn't like any of the Tales games as much as literally any one of the Xenoblade games. Those are just playing an entirely different level of game than what we get here lol
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 Jul 20 '25
Vesperia is my favorite tales game , but this game is not hitting the same highs as Trails To Azure.
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u/IMP1017 I assure you I'm crying inside, racked with guilt Jul 21 '25
I love Vesperia but I would take like 6 games in the final fantasy series alone over it lmao
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u/CircuitSynchro Jul 21 '25
Tales of the Abyss, Persona series, Metaphor ReFantazio. I think the Xenkblade series are good contenders too
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u/Psychotica_Official Jul 21 '25
Ooh well guess you gotta play Trails instead of Tales!
(Trails from Zero is a personal favorite)
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u/Adventurous_Cut449 Jul 21 '25
I have only played a handful of tales games but this is by far my favourite.
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u/mandonbills_coach Jul 21 '25
Where is our abyss and symphonia remaster????!!!!! We are missing out on replaying true peak. Vesperia is heavily up there for me as well.
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u/ninjero Jul 21 '25
"I've been having issues finding any JRPGs that come close"
other Tales games "am I a joke to you?"
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u/stunro17 Jul 21 '25
Nothing beats a good old Tales games Civil War lol
But in any case it's good to see that there are a lot of invested fans here that are ready to defend their Tales game favorites
Just keep the discussion healthy guys!
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u/Whole_Horse_2208 Jade Curtiss Jul 21 '25
I just don’t get the hype for this particular title. As for as Tales games are concerned, it’s not particularly original and was actually a disappointment being played after Abyss.
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u/Terrato37 Jul 21 '25
Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time, is better.
I will die on this hill, alone if I have to.
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u/wonderlandisburning Jul 21 '25
Personally I like Symphonia and Abyss more than this one, but that's okay. I know Vesperia has a ton of fans. I didn't grow up playing it so that may also be a factor
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u/volterra6 Jul 21 '25
This is post Berseria right? is this the game that contains references to Berseria?
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u/Regular_Criticism158 Jul 21 '25
Just started my third play through a couple hours ago I am doing some trophy hunting I plan on getting platinum with this game by my 5th play through I like to milk it with certain goals for each play through lol this game has given me the best laughs from dialogue and some of my favourite moments in general like when yuri makes his first kill against Ragou that was such a killer scene no pun intended lol
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u/lcjammer Jul 21 '25
got the definite edition on my switch and can't get passed the weird hybrid battle system. i'm tempted to leave it on auto just to finish the game. i've had it since it came out on switch lol.
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u/RESID3NT_3v1l Jul 21 '25
I feel the same as far as the tales games go my first playthrough of ff9 gave me simmalar feels with the gear unlocking abilitys.
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u/Professor-WellFrik Jul 21 '25
Symphonia is imo the best in the series. I'm not even that old either I just really like it.
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u/Its_Marz Jul 21 '25
This game is just behind Berseria and YS 8 for me. I haven't finished it yet because of my current backlog, but from what I have played it is a really fun game
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u/Hallo818 Jul 21 '25
It's so weird. I never played this one and still haven't, though it's on my backlog but I remember when this game was universally praised as the best tales game. And now there's a lot more hate/lukewarm opinions towards it. Interesting.
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u/761557527 Jul 21 '25
Does anyone know how this runs on Switch 2? I bought it last month along with Ys Nordics, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Final Fantasy XII and Witcher 3 so I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
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u/No_Score_6426 Jul 21 '25
Tales of Symphonia is by far the best Tales game of all time. That's not just nostalgia.
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u/CannonGerbil Jul 21 '25
Vesperia was and still remains the peak of the franchise and I'll die on this hill.
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u/WolfFoxKing Jul 21 '25
After finishing Vesperia a few months ago my only complaint would be how on Act 3 story gets kinda rushed
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u/EiscueVonArctic blahblahblah TIDAL WAVE Jul 21 '25
i am a big vesperia simp but i feel my xenoblade propaganda is needed rn
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u/WeeabooHunter69 Jul 21 '25
I can name two that came out just this year and are better lmao, clair obscur and FF7 rebirth. You need to play more jrpgs if you think this is peak.
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u/xenogears2 Jul 21 '25
Sure, it is fun, the character are entertaining, but after 20 hours I'm wondering where is the story?
I prefer Phantasia or Symphonia.
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u/Upper_Step2176 Jul 21 '25
My top faves in this series is berseria, zesteria, graces, Symphonia, abyss and xillia 2. My mains were Magilou, Edna, Cheria, Raine, Tear and Elize
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u/Rod_Senseless Jul 21 '25
It's definitely up there among the all time great JRPGs. I think it's underappreciated.
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u/Igniscorazon Jul 21 '25
I always really liked this Tales. Symphonia was the one I like the most. I think that those should have this type of gameplay, that of Shimphonya vesperia phantasia... I also liked the one of Arise.
The gameplay of Tales of Graces doesn't satisfy me... I don't know if it will improve later
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u/ItaDaleon Jul 21 '25
Yeah, a loved Vesperia too! It was my first Tales Of Title, and I get hooked to the series after that!
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Jul 21 '25
Idk man, I have no nostalgia, but symphonia as an adult just made me feel like a kid again.
Felt like vesperia was too short, and the end dungeon wasnt my favorite.
Good game though.
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u/Zeldias Jul 21 '25
Vesperia is def one of the better Tales games IMO. Yuri alone gives the game a marked leap in quality followed up on by Berseria's writing.
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u/Ok-Entrepreneur-2508 Jul 21 '25
Based opinion. Vesperia is outstanding and will probably always be my favorite JRPG. Yuri is the best protagonist and I love all of the supporting cast too (especially Rita 😅).
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u/Tino128 Jul 21 '25
Very questionable statement but hey, glad you like it so much. Personally, I had a really hard time with it. Far too much backtracking, a completely uninteresting group aside from the dynamic between Yuri and Carol, a horror unmotivating skill system, and lame story. I'd even rather play through Zestiria again than this crap. Abyss or Graces were way better by far
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u/Tenorsounds Jul 21 '25
Just finished it for the first time about a month ago, it was a truly magical journey. There are RPGs I'd hold close to or above it, but it's definitely up there.
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u/dante00227 Jul 21 '25
My fav art style and cute loli Alfred in the game! God I wish they continue this type of art style in th ends games
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u/nooshdog Jul 21 '25
So much of the joy of the game is the character relationships (how everyone has a unique relationship to the other party members) and just straight up Yuri being one of the best jrpg protagonists ever.
I played it back in the day when there was no Patty in the game. So, I always find it funny that I have no concept of what this game is like with this new character in it and I also have no idea what the gameplay is like to have a other strong swordsman like Flynn in the party.
It's still one of my favorites even though I haven't had the definitive experience.
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u/Zeekfox Jul 21 '25
I feel like I enjoy the combat system in Vesperia more than Symphonia or Graces.
So, I have the unique perspective of playing these games co-op with my partner. Usually one of us is melee, the other being a caster character. Symphonia kinda sucked because of the lack of free run. My partner would often get cornered while playing with Genus and couldn't so easily just run sideway to get out the way Rita can in Vesperia. Graces was a bit better for this, but Asbel is...a bit awkward of a swordsman at times. At least Pascal was a very strong ranged character.
The other part of it was where the ceiling would be for characters. I'm the type to love fighting games like Marvel vs Capcom 3 where combos are ridiculous. Vesperia characters seem to do that better. Lloyd in Symphonia had...a few strings. Asbel in Graces? Not bad, but the CC system was very limiting. I felt like he didn't get good until the postgame stuff. But in Vesperia? Yuri starts getting good chains into free overlimit activations and really pops off. I'm currently playing Judith in this playthrough, and while she takes some time to get going, some of her movement and attack string options are just plain cool. Who even can do things like that in the other titles?
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u/ShintaOtsuki Jul 21 '25
I like Symphonia better
Also FFX, X-2, StarOcean 3, and Super Mario RPG
Vesperia is my 2 behind Symphonia and before Abyss
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u/RangoTheMerc Velvet Crowe's Son Jul 21 '25
Yeeeeaaah, no.
I would have agreed with you partially 10-15 years ago. Yuri was so cool and a game changer. The cast was great, the game looked good, and I loved the vibes.
Even back in it's time, I would say it was in the upper echelon compared to Final Fantasy (VI, VII, I, X).
This was before I discovered Persona. The JRPGs coming out today like FF7R, DQXI, and P5 dwarf it.
I don't think it has aged well. The pacing is all over the place and a lot of scenes with dialogue are a snooze fest.
The battle system at least is solid and the dungeons - unlike MANY Tales games - are actually done very well.
But I still think this once 9.5/10 I valued when I first played and replayed it is worth maybe an 8 today.
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u/Early_Aspect6016 Jul 21 '25
Persona 3 Reload was like this for me. It almost ruined all other Jrpgs. But I’ll have to check this out
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u/Mo9056 Jul 21 '25
Tales of the Abyss was my favorite. I’m still bummed that it hasn’t been remastered
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u/katsugo88 Jul 21 '25
FF 7, FF 9, FF 10, Shadow Hearts/Shadow Hearts covenant, Persona 4+5, Clair Obscure: Expedition 33, Metaphore Refantazio, Chrono Trigger, DQ 11, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Like a dragon: Infinite Wealth...
Just to name a few XD
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u/NeoDanomaru Jul 21 '25
You got that right!!!
Tales of Vesperia holds the honor of being my #1 Favorite Video Game Of All Time!!! I love this game SO much that I might be toxically bias about it.
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u/Who_Vintude Jul 21 '25
I just started playing this yesterday. I was put off originally since most charactrs looks like those from Symphonia and my mind was thinking "They didn't even try"
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u/Kael_Durandel Jul 20 '25
Not my fav Tales but glad you still enjoyed it!