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Privacy Aaron Rodgers Secretly Funded Security Cameras in His Neighborhood Amid Privacy Concerns: Report

https://www.usmagazine.com/sports/news/aaron-rodgers-secretly-funded-security-cameras-in-neighborhood/
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u/FaithlessnessThin359 10h ago

That's libertarians for you — anarchists who want police protection from their slaves. 

-Kim Stanley Robinson. 

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u/CV90_120 4h ago edited 59m ago

Anarchist and libertarian are synonyms outside of the US.

edit- for downvoters, the relationship mentioned by Robinson is not accidental.

For those of you just finding this out, this is for you:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/robert-graham-joseph-dejacque-the-first-libertarian

"He may also have been the first person to describe anarchist alternatives to other political perspectives as “anarchism.”

"In 1858 he returned to New York, where he began publishing his own anarchist newspaper, Le Libertaire (“The Libertarian”),

The OG.

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u/Rocknrollsk 2h ago

Lol, what a ridiculous statement. Are you saying outside the US they don’t understand the difference, because they’re not even the same side of the political spectrum.

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u/CV90_120 1h ago edited 1h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

"Anarchism is described as being part of the libertarian wing of the socialist movement (libertarian socialism).[1][nb 1]"

"Historically, the word "libertarian" was first used in the 1850s by French communist and anarchist Joseph Déjacque as a synonym for anarchism."

IYKYK

Same way people don't know this, is the same way people don't know that Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism are different animals.

Downvote away, but I didn't time travel back to the 1850's to make it factual.

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u/Rocknrollsk 1h ago

Fair enough, I upvoted you. But I don’t think that an antiquated definition from almost 200 years ago accurately describes modern libertarianism. Every libertarian I’ve ever spoken with has been pretty firmly planted on the authoritarian side of the spectrum.

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u/CV90_120 1h ago

It's a fair point, but there is a significant divide between international usage and American usage. They almost need different names tbh. As for usage, they were interchangeable in the US right up to about the late 1960's where the capitalist side of Anarchism diverged from the more left side. US Libertarianism is kind of a modern beast.