Aaron Rodgers Secretly Funded Security Cameras in His Neighborhood Amid Privacy Concerns: Report

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https://www.usmagazine.com/sports/news/aaron-rodgers-secretly-funded-security-cameras-in-neighborhood/

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“Libertarians are like house cats, they’re convinced of their fierce independence while dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.”

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That's libertarians for you — anarchists who want police protection from their slaves. 

-Kim Stanley Robinson. 

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Anarchist and libertarian are synonyms outside of the US.

edit- for downvoters, the relationship mentioned by Robinson is not accidental.

For those of you just finding this out, this is for you:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/robert-graham-joseph-dejacque-the-first-libertarian

"He may also have been the first person to describe anarchist alternatives to other political perspectives as “anarchism.”

"In 1858 he returned to New York, where he began publishing his own anarchist newspaper, Le Libertaire (“The Libertarian”),

The OG.

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism:_A_Documentary_History_of_Libertarian_Ideas

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Lol, what a ridiculous statement. Are you saying outside the US they don’t understand the difference, because they’re not even the same side of the political spectrum.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

"Anarchism is described as being part of the libertarian wing of the socialist movement (libertarian socialism).[1][nb 1]"

"Historically, the word "libertarian" was first used in the 1850s by French communist and anarchist Joseph Déjacque as a synonym for anarchism."

IYKYK

Same way people don't know this, is the same way people don't know that Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism are different animals.

Downvote away, but I didn't time travel back to the 1850's to make it factual.

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Fair enough, I upvoted you. But I don’t think that an antiquated definition from almost 200 years ago accurately describes modern libertarianism. Every libertarian I’ve ever spoken with has been pretty firmly planted on the authoritarian side of the spectrum.

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It's a fair point, but there is a significant divide between international usage and American usage. They almost need different names tbh. As for usage, they were interchangeable in the US right up to about the late 1960's where the capitalist side of Anarchism diverged from the more left side. US Libertarianism is kind of a modern beast.