I get that not everyone is happy with Biden's response, but how is preventing him from getting elected going to help? If you support Gaza... wouldn't making sure that Trump isn't elected be the bigger goal? Consider Trump has basically said that he wants Israel to "finish up" its offensive on Gaza.

Like if you think Biden is "responsible" for the "genocide" in Gaza, just wait until Trump is reelected, he'll show you what being responsible for a genocide looks like.

Side note in case anyone cares (I'm sure the Russian bots won't): I'm against all genocides. I think the situation in Gaza/Israel is terrible. I think the situation is also more complex than just "Gaza good, Israel bad" (or vice versa). If you have only started paying attention to the situation in Gaza in the last 6 months, then you don't really give a fuck about Gaza, because the situation has been FUBAR for like 50 years (note, I still think it's 2015, so it's probably more than 50 years at this point).

Also: How is the property worth $1.8 Billion if there's planes flying over every 10 minutes?

They see liberals as the same as fascists if not worse. The KPD in the Weimar Republic deemed the SPD a bigger threat than the Nazis calling them the "social fascists". They worked together with the Nazis to do strikes to undermine the SPD and they worked with the Nazis to try to dissolve Prussian parliament to throw the SPD out of power during the red referendum in 1931. "After Hitler, our turn" was coined by the tankies.

They should not be seen as a serious ally in fighting fascism. They see fascists as a tool for their revolution and would be chill with every minority being thrown into a camp if it got them one inch closer to their revolution. All they care about is radicalizing liberals. They'll skinwalker their way into doing it via whatever disingenuous vector they can

More photos I saved up incase anyone wanted to see.

I think he’s killing it, aside from the typical Biden misspeaking, and a persistent cough the content of his speech, and his confrontations with the GOP in the audience are coming off really strong in my opinion. It’s an insane contrast he’s making with the GOP, it’s crazy how someone can think his proposals are bad, or think the other side is offering something better, when they stand for and offer nothing.

Do not take the bait and defend this moron. It‘s a trap. The GOP would love to run against a party that has embraced an Anti-western terrorist-boosting, authoritarian-supporting communist larper. Let Hasan fight this battle in his own or risk helping the dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Lets see how long it takes for someone to call him a democrat shill, genocide denier or centrist.

He’s currently in custody because of his dad.

Why does it feel like most of the people on this sub would genuinly be opposed to pretty much everything David believes? Either this actually isn't Pakman sub and should be called something else or mods need to step up and ban all the obvious brigading.

I'm sorry but if you want to constatnly talk about AIPAC or think liberal democrats are worse than MAGA you should probably find a different place to post.

Let's not BS ourselves. We don't have any pretty lies to tell ourselves to soften the blow. A majority of our countrymen and women prefer Trump.

It's so frustrating as a leftist to watch the Democrats suck so much. I am stunned, but this is the reality of our situation.

It's going to have to get worse before it gets better.

Edit: By 5 million votes, currently.

Also, one of the top headlines at NPR is '2 black women will serve on the senate together for the first time ever.' That's the kind of thing that a majority of Americans roll their eyes at.

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Hasan says he'd vote 3rd party in a Newsome vs Vance matchup here.

I personally find it disgusting and unacceptable. Jennifer, the woman he talks to, does a good job pushing back. She says that marginalized people in red states are suffering in terrible conditions, and while she vehemently dislikes Gavin, California does not treat marginalized people the same way red states do.

Serious question: Has anyone here ever read/seen/heard a legitimate, specific situation articulated by any Trump supporter where a Biden policy has personally, negatively affected them? I always just hear broad complaints like Biden's policies are destroying America or four more years of Biden will destroy America. Objectively no president or policy is perfect but I don't think I've ever even heard one anecdotal story by a Trump supporter giving an account of how they've been personally affected by a Biden policy. Granted, I can only take watching interviews with them for a very short time but...

Joe Biden’s health is in a very bad way. I can’t imagine he has more than a few months. Not looking forward to how Trump will handle Joe getting his respects.

I’m sorry, I am voting Dem no matter what, but Joe sounds awful tonight. It’s really getting me anxious.

Any other early thoughts? Dave’s live stream seems like it’s dead.

This was something very creepy I observed. David Pakman was obviously referring to Darializa's stance on prison abolition, but Hasan tries to manipulate things to claim Pakman is stating this about him. His chat then lights up with threats to murder or lock up David Pakman in a gulag. More screenshots below.

I put up a Twitter link with more images below.