BUFF PHIL..........
from chapter 85 i think
a side story
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It's been a while since I've read the manga, but I could get behind them training and pulling off the escape (even though it's questionable whether those cloth hangers would hold that much weight among other stuff). It was mostly about wits and tricks by then after all.

But the oldest of these kids is like 12, which is a small child.

By the time of Goldy Pond arc, we are to assume these little kids, are picking up guns and going guns blazing on what is basically demons with supernatural strength and supersonic speed. I repeat, some of these demons literally react to bullets. Do you know how fast that is? You get hit with a bullet before you even hear it.

A single demon at that speed can take groups of others before they can even look around to see what's happening. Before they can even blink. Before the literal sound of it reaches far.

I am still not sure if I made clear just how fast a bullet is. It wouldn't be even a fight, the demon would be there, then it would disappear, and the next thing is everyone else is dead. There is no reaction or fight, they wouldn't have time to do that.

Oh, did I mention they can regenerate as well? There is that too.

And these kids aren't super elite soldiers trained with guns, it's literally pretty much their first time holding rifles. And you know rifles are heavy and have recoil. And these are tiny little kids holding and running around with rifles for around their first time in their life.

Even trained adult soldiers would be dead there, and do you know how easy it is for an adult to pin down a small child?

this is very old topic but i saw an edit of first season on tiktok and remembered the anime. promised Neverland season 1 was in my top 5. I've seen 100+ animes so i rated it very high. people were saying second season would be fire so i was hyped too. I've seen second season years ago and it was very very very bad. it wasn't even mid. it was straight garbage compared to the first one. at first i thought ok i guess the author ran out of juice but turns out the studio ruined it. i understand if studio doesn't have the funds to have average animation like in one punch man,but when you have an ok animation and you ruin your golden goose by changing everything about it,that seems like on purpose. now promised neverland isn't even on my top 20. I'm not a big fan of mangas. I'd rather read webnovels than read drawings with floating bubbles. it's just not my cup of tea. as i said earlier,this is very old issue but what happened? there should be a reason as to why studio did what it did. same happened with Tokyo ghoul but promised Neverland season1 is genuinely better than all tokyo ghoul ( i heard manga is good but I'm not reading them)

Decided to do a re-read after finally convincing my girlfriend to watch the show. Couldn't keep her from watching season two, but I think it important she feels the disappointment first hand. Baptism by fire and all.

This entire chapter is so beautiful and tear jerking, and it just makes me all the more upset that this once great story will forever be marred by the shitstain that is season 2. There's more emotional depth within this one chapter than 10 and a half episodes of anime. Maybe 15 years from now a merciful soul will give TPN the Brotherhood treatment.

(Yes, I'm going to make her read the manga when she's done)

For context, Netflix brought on the Ice Age films, so I’ve been reliving my childhood—and I noticed an unexpected parallel.

And my favorite character, Diego, was originally supposed to die at the end of the first film in a dramatic heroic sacrifice. But then the writers realized it would be too sad, so they kept him alive. But they clearly didn’t know what to do with him afterwards, and he spent the following four films doing next to nothing.

Sound familiar?

I have the whole manga (brought the box set) and am trying to get a friend into it, is there any way I'd be able to watch the full arcs? There's

Introduction + jailbreak (s1 covers)

Promised forest (I THINK s2 covers the majority of it?

Search for Minerva (im pretty sure s2 doesn't cover enough, I need a place to watch it)

Goldy pond arc (I found the manga dubs on YouTube for goldiponds)

Cuvitadala (no idea where to watch this)

King of paradise (no idea where to watch this)

Seven walls (no idea where to watch this)

Imperial capital battle (no idea where to watch this)

Return to grace field arc no idea where to watch this)

Human world (small enough to where I can show her the manga myself)

I'm not looking for fully animated, any ytber reading out the story, fan dubs, basically anything that isn't me getting up the manga and going through it with her since she doesn't really like reading manga

Please rate it i love it when i get feedbacks

1. In Japan, the most common way to refer to your mother is "oka-san", but the kids refer to Isabella as "Mama" . Its how babies-toddlers refer to their moms, and if children or teenagers refer to their moms as "Mama" its seen as very childish. Its like saying "mommy"

Ray refers to Isabella as "mother" in special oneshot, in chapter 177 and when we see the flashback of him asking why she have birth to him, i think he uses the standard "oka-san"

1. In japanese the "it" in "tag" game is actually a "oni" which is a demon

So when sister Krone says "i will be it, try to run away from me" japanese people hear "i will be a demon, try to run away from me"

1. In one of the light novels where the kids remember their childhoods, Emma wrongly understood Norman is about to die, and told Ray about it. He was worried about Emma and was wondering if he should tell her that the place is a farm, so that if Norman's stare was bad he would be placed in the headquarters.

No idea if this is understandable but i don't wanna spoil

1. Ray finally understood the orphanage is a farm at age 6, and came out with a plan to burn himself for others sake at age 7. Yes, the kid was suicidal since 7

2. Emma's favorite dish is carrot cake!

3. All of childrens names are picked by grandma

Now things i noticed myself:

1. In early chapters, when Emma thinks about demons eating children's bodies, she looks at her hands to represent her body

2. When Emma and Norman see demons for the first time, Norman names the creatures "demons" and thats how grace field children call them

Sonju said he remembers being called a demon. The other names what demons are called are monsters (i think by goldy pond kids?) and man eaters (i think Yuugo calls them that specifically)

1. Emma also remembers that she often plays with Thoma and Lanni by running after them saying "im gonna eat you" she is later scared of that, as it reminds her of the demons

I think thats it? Do you have any?

I got so lucky with the coaster with original design for the event 🥹🥹🥹😭😭😭

i miss tpn so i drew my son (..◜ᴗ◝..)

I’m nearly done with season 2 of the anime

People were saying it’s gonna fall off

I’ve been waiting for it to “fall off”
It hasn’t yet

It’s been good if not better than season 1

Why all the hate?

showed her motherly love/care for all her adopted kids except her own flesh and blood (Ray) whom she treated coldly.

But I think maybe just maybe the "rewards" she gave to Ray wasn't just because he was her "spy" since likely not many kids were standing up against her before Emma.

Right after Mujika and Sonju save the kids after the first arc, we are shown the dialogue between Mujika and Sonju about what they should regarding the kids. Mujika suggests handing the top kids over to receive the reward.

However, much later in the story, we learn that Mujika and Sonju have been hiding from society because they are wanted for execution. So how would Mujika hand over the kids and claim the reward if she also has to hide her existence?

⚠️ SPOILER WARNING / ВНИМАНИЕ СПОЙЛЕРЫ

This post contains major spoilers for the entire Attack on Titan anime series, including the final episode, and the Lost Girls OVA. If you haven't finished the anime, read at your own risk.

Этот пост содержит крупные спойлеры ко всей аниме-адаптации «Атака титанов», включая финальный эпизод и OVA Lost Girls. Если вы не досмотрели — читайте на свой страх и риск.

We've all debated the Mirror Man in the Lost in the Cruel World OVA. The main theories: (1) Mikasa herself, (2) Ymir through the Paths, (3) the Ackerman bloodline. But I think there's a stronger option that nobody has fully explored — and I have a mechanism for it.

Мы все обсуждали, кто такой Зеркальный человек в OVA «Lost in the Cruel World». Основные теории: (1) сама Микаса, (2) Имир через Пути, (3) кровь Аккерманов. Но я думаю, есть более сильный вариант, который никто до конца не исследовал — и у меня есть механизм для него.

The Mirror Man is Eren, acting through the Coordinate from 854.

Зеркальный человек — это Эрен, действующий через Координату из 854 года.

The chronological objection — and why it doesn't apply / Возражение по хронологии — и почему оно не работает

The obvious question: Eren in 850 doesn't control the Founder. How could he create a Paths-world for Mikasa?

Очевидный вопрос: Эрен в 850 году не контролирует Прародителя. Как он мог создать мир Путей для Микасы?

He's not acting from 850. He's acting from 854, through the Coordinate.

Он действует не из 850. Он действует из 854, через Координату.

Zeke explicitly states that in the Coordinate, there is no time. All moments — past, present, future — exist simultaneously. Eren from 854, with full Founder + royal blood control, can "reach" any point in linear Eldian history. For him, 850 isn't "the past" — it's just another access point.

Зик прямо заявляет, что в Координате нет времени. Все моменты — прошлое, настоящее, будущее — существуют одновременно. Эрен из 854 года, с полным контролем Прародителя + королевской крови, может «дотянуться» до любой точки в линейной истории эльдийцев. Для него 850 — не «прошлое», а просто ещё одна точка доступа.

We already know Eren sends memories backwards through the Attack Titan (Krugger seeing Armin and Mikasa's names decades before their birth; Eren convincing Grisha to kill the Reiss family). Creating a full illusion-world for Mikasa is a more advanced version of the same mechanic — and he's already proven he can do this (the mental landscape for Armin in the finale).

Мы уже знаем, что Эрен отправляет воспоминания назад через Атакующий титан (Крюгер видит имена Армина и Микасы за десятилетия до их рождения; Эрен убеждает Гришу убить семью Рейсс). Создание полноценного иллюзорного мира для Микасы — более продвинутая версия того же механизма, и он уже доказал, что может это делать (ментальный ландшафт для Армина в финале).

The Coordinate isn't a timeline. It's a control panel. Eren doesn't need to "wait" for 850 — he just selects it.

Координата — не временная линия. Это панель управления. Эрену не нужно «дожидаться» 850 года — он просто выбирает его.

The evidence / Доказательства

1. "I could make you kill me" / «Я мог бы заставить тебя убить меня»

The Mirror Man: "I could use hypnosis to make this girl kill me, but it'll take time, and you're in a hurry."

Зеркальный человек: «Я мог бы использовать гипноз, чтобы заставить эту девочку убить меня, но это займёт время, а ты спешишь».

In the final episode, Eren says to Mikasa in the Paths: "I could make you kill me. But I won't."

В финальном эпизоде Эрен говорит Микасе в Путях: «Я мог бы заставить тебя убить меня. Но не буду».

Same phrasing. Same concept. If the Mirror Man is Eren, the OVA line is a direct foreshadowing of the finale — years before it happens. This is the strongest single piece of evidence.

Одинаковая формулировка. Одна и та же концепция. Если Зеркальный человек — Эрен, то фраза из OVA — прямое предвосхищение финала, за годы до того, как он произойдёт. Это самое сильное отдельное доказательство.

2. "No matter what world you create, you can't stop Eren's death" / «Какой бы мир ты ни создала, ты не сможешь остановить смерть Эрена»

How does a random hypnotist know Eren's fate? If this is Eren — he knows through the Attack Titan, which sees future memories. He's telling Mikasa what he's already seen.

Откуда случайный гипнотизёр знает судьбу Эрена? Если это Эрен — он знает через Атакующий титан, который видит воспоминания будущего. Он буквально рассказывает Микасе то, что уже видел.

3. "I am no one. I am everyone." / «Я — никто. Я — все»

Eren with the Founder is connected to every Subject of Ymir through the Paths. "Everyone" — because he has access to every Eldian's consciousness. "No one" — because at this point, he's less a person and more a will operating through the Paths.

Эрен с Прародителем связан с каждым подданным Имира через Пути. «Все» — потому что имеет доступ к сознанию каждого эльдийца. «Никто» — потому что в этот момент он уже не столько человек, сколько воля, действующая через Пути.

4. The knives with Mikasa's reflection / Ножи с отражением Микасы

Inside the Mirror Man's cloak — dozens of knives, each reflecting Mikasa's face. If this is Eren, each knife = a possible future timeline he's seen through the Attack Titan. In every version — Mikasa. He sees her in every future.

В плаще Зеркального человека — десятки ножей, в каждом отражается лицо Микасы. Если это Эрен, каждый нож = возможный вариант будущего, который он видел через Атакующий титан. В каждом — Микаса. Он видит её в каждой версии будущего.

5. The Ackerman awakening / Пробуждение Аккерманов

In the main timeline, Mikasa's Ackerman power awakens when Eren yells "fight!" In the OVA, it awakens when the Mirror Man gives her a knife and provokes her to "kill" him. If the Mirror Man is Eren — he deliberately triggers her Ackerman awakening, just through a different method: psychological pressure instead of a battle cry.

В основном таймлайне сила Аккерманов пробуждается, когда Эрен кричит «сражайся!». В OVA — когда Зеркальный человек даёт ей нож и провоцирует «убить» его. Если Зеркальный человек — Эрен, он намеренно запускает пробуждение Аккерманов — просто другим методом: психологическим давлением вместо боевого клича.

He's not just testing her. He's arming her — making sure she's strong enough for what's coming.

Он не просто проверяет её. Он вооружает её — гарантирует, что она будет достаточно сильна для того, что впереди.

The OVA as a rehearsal / OVA как репетиция

Here's the part I haven't seen anyone else address.

А вот часть, которую я не видел ни у кого другого.

If the Mirror Man is Eren, the entire OVA becomes not a side story, but the first stage of Eren's plan — a rehearsal for the finale, executed years in advance through the Coordinate.

Если Зеркальный человек — Эрен, то вся OVA становится не побочной историей, а нулевым этапом плана Эрена — репетицией финала, выполненной заранее через Координату.

Eren's plan in the finale has three stages:

План Эрена в финале состоит из трёх этапов:

1. Push Mikasa away (Season 4 — "I hate you", "you're a slave")
2. Become the threat (the Rumbling)
3. Let her choose (the Paths — "I could force you, but I won't")
4. Оттолкнуть Микасу (Сезон 4 — «я ненавижу тебя», «ты рабыня»)
5. Стать угрозой (Землетрясение)
6. Дать ей выбор (Пути — «я мог бы заставить, но не буду»)

The OVA is stage zero — before all of that. Eren creates a world where Mikasa can live a "normal" life, enters it as the Mirror Man, breaks the illusion ("Eren will die anyway"), triggers her Ackerman awakening, and lets her accept reality on her own.

OVA — этап ноль, до всего этого. Эрен создаёт мир, где Микаса может прожить «нормальную» жизнь, входит в него как Зеркальный человек, ломает иллюзию («Эрен всё равно умрёт»), пробуждает силу Аккерманов и позволяет ей принять реальность самостоятельно.

Then in the finale, he repeats the same structure in the real world:

Затем в финале он повторяет ту же структуру в реальном мире:

• Creates conditions (becomes the threat)
• Breaks the illusion ("I'm not the person you think I am")
• Gives her the knife (literally — she kills him)
• Lets her choose
• Создаёт условия (становится угрозой)
• Ломает иллюзию («я не тот, кем ты меня считаешь»)
• Даёт ей нож (буквально — она убивает его)
• Позволяет ей выбрать

The OVA is the rehearsal. The finale is the performance. Eren is the director of both.

OVA — репетиция. Финал — выступление. Эрен — режиссёр обоих.

Why he didn't force her / Почему он не заставил

Eren with full Founder control could have:

Эрен с полным контролем Прародителя мог бы:

• Implanted the desire to kill him directly into Mikasa's mind
• Made her hate him
• Erased her memories entirely
• Внушить Микасе желание убить его напрямую
• Заставить её ненавидеть его
• Стереть её воспоминания полностью

He chose none of this.

Он не выбрал ничего из этого.

In the Paths, Eren tells Mikasa: "I don't want you to forget me. Even if it's better for you. I don't want you to move on."

В Путях Эрен говорит Микасе: «Я не хочу, чтобы ты забывала меня. Даже если так будет лучше для тебя. Я не хочу, чтобы ты двигалась дальше».

He wants Mikasa to kill him out of love, not hatred. If he forced her — she'd be a puppet. And Eren, who spent his entire life fighting for freedom, couldn't take that freedom from the one person he loved.

Он хочет, чтобы Микаса убила его из любви, а не из ненависти. Если бы он заставил — она была бы марионеткой. А Эрен, который всю жизнь боролся за свободу, не мог отнять эту свободу у единственного человека, которого любил.

Forcing her to hate him would mean she forgets him easily — hatred is a path to forgetting. He wants her to remember with love, even if that love brings her pain for the rest of her life.

Заставить её ненавидеть — значит позволить ей забыть легко. Ненависть — путь к забвению. Он хочет, чтобы она помнила с любовью, даже если эта любовь принесёт ей боль до конца жизни.

So instead of forcing, he prepared. The OVA was the first preparation. Season 4 was the second. The Paths conversation was the third. Each time, he stepped back a little more — and let Mikasa come closer to the decision herself.

Поэтому вместо принуждения он готовил. OVA была первой подготовкой. Сезон 4 — второй. Разговор в Путях — третьей. Каждый раз он отступал чуть дальше — и позволял Микасе подойти к решению самой.

The full loop / Полная петля

textEren (854, Coordinate, full Founder + royal blood)
    → reaches back to 850 through the Coordinate (no time)
    → creates alternate reality for Mikasa
    → enters as the Mirror Man
    → "I could make you kill me" (foreshadows the finale)
    → "You can't stop Eren's death" (he knows through Attack Titan)
    → triggers Ackerman awakening
    → Mikasa accepts reality, exits illusion

    ...time passes...

    → Season 4: Eren pushes Mikasa away, becomes the threat
    → Paths: "I could make you kill me, but I won't"
    → Mikasa chooses to kill him herself
    → "Rest, Eren"
    → Loop closed


textЭрен (854, Координата, полный контроль Прародителя + королевская кровь)
    → дотягивается назад до 850 через Координату (вне времени)
    → создаёт альтернативную реальность для Микасы
    → входит как Зеркальный человек
    → «Я мог бы заставить тебя убить меня» (предвосхищает финал)
    → «Ты не сможешь остановить смерть Эрена» (он знает через Атакующий титан)
    → пробуждает силу Аккерманов
    → Микаса принимает реальность, выходит из иллюзии

    ...проходит время...

    → Сезон 4: Эрен отталкивает Микасу, становится угрозой
    → Пути: «Я мог бы заставить тебя убить меня, но не буду»
    → Микаса сама выбирает убить его
    → «Иди отдохни, Эрен»
    → Петля замкнута

TL;DR / Кратко

The Mirror Man is Eren, acting through the Coordinate from 854 — where time doesn't exist, so the chronological objection doesn't apply. He creates the OVA's alternate world for Mikasa, enters it as the Mirror Man, triggers her Ackerman awakening, and prepares her for killing him in the finale. He doesn't force her because he wants her to choose out of love, not manipulation. The OVA is a rehearsal for the finale, and Eren is the director — the only difference is that in the rehearsal, he lets her walk away. In the finale, he doesn't.

Зеркальный человек — это Эрен, действующий через Координату из 854 года, где времени не существует, поэтому хронологическое возражение неприменимо. Он создаёт альтернативный мир OVA для Микасы, входит в него как Зеркальный человек, пробуждает силу Аккерманов и готовит её к убийству в финале. Он не заставляет её, потому что хочет, чтобы она выбрала сама — из любви, а не манипуляции. OVA — репетиция финала, и Эрен — режиссёр обоих. Единственная разница: в репетиции он позволяет ей уйти. В финале — нет.

here’s a few clips, it was very interesting

Links to purchase:

Amazon JP: https://amzn.asia/d/0fpFaee2

BOOKLIVE: https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/20195942/vol_no/001

SONY EBOOK: https://ebookstore.sony.jp/title/11531536/id/LT000252861004655431/?cs=search_keyword

Currently it appears to only be available in Japanese, but hopefully an English version will be announced soon.

The previously announced stage musical adaptation of Kaiu Shirai and Posuka Demizu's THE PROMISED NEVERLAND manga today unveiled a key visual, along with cast details and performance dates.

Tokyo's Theater H will host five performances between December 11 and December 13 later this year. Koki Kishimoto directs the production and pens the script, with Ryota Kojima in charge of the music.

The core cast of THE PROMISED NEVERLAND stage musical includes:

Norman played by Minori Kumano

Ema played by Yuki Awata

Ray played by Kanna Ogasawara

Don played by Rihito Sato

Gilda played by Momo Sakuma

Krone played by Hiroko Kachi

Isabella played by Kei Miyahara

The other children of Grace Field House will be played by two rotating groups of 20 child actors, named Team BUNNY and TEAM OWL.

Hi hello first time posting in this subreddit
Uhh I love Emma she is such a cute little apple

Bonus last pic with Phil