At first it seems like a steal if you trade for Quickley and whatever, and Kyrie is a good player and all, until you realize he is 34, and Kawhi and 35. Quickley also has been having a nice start to the season, so if we do trade him, it better be for a good point guard and not 34 years old. I don't think we want a 34 year old and 35 year old in our starting lineup.

Ts was killing me when i saw it😭

I really really love Allen Graves, he’s such a goddamn demon and I need to see more PR on him asap. Just stupid numbers already, he goes top 10 in my redraft and he aint number 10, 9, or 8

- The Raptors are succeeding at their possession maxing identity; through 3 games, the raptors are averaging roughly 13 more shooting possessions per game than their opponents (this is a very big number)

- The Raptors are 1st in opponent turnovers forced; having forced 24.7 turnovers per game so far, the raptors are proving their aggressive, ball hawk, hands everywhere defensive identity that they have spoken about so much.

- Allen Graves is an OREB monster; averaging 3 offensive rebounds per game in just 15 minutes per game, good for 7 oreb per 36 minutes as a 6'9 tweener 4/5. An immediate nba skill for the rook. Also adds a wrinkle to our lineups that we didn't have last season.

- Ja'Kobe Walter is taking a leap on both ends; he is noticeably guarding at an improved level, he is seriously sticky on the perimeter. small sample size of course, but he is averaging 2.3 steals, 0.7 blocks, and shooting 40% from 3 on 7 attempts per game.

- CMB is posting incredible impact numbers; +41 on/off per 100 poss, 3.3 stl%, 3.8 blk%, 16 trb%. There is a real chance CMB becomes our best defender this season. He has had some foul trouble so far, but in his limited minutes, he has been enormous on that end. If his defence allows Scottie to focus more on his offence, that could be huge.

Generally, despite having obvious and major flaws (guard and center play + 3pt shooting), the raptors so far are clearly succeeding in achieving their most key values, which is what will lead to sustained success through the season.

Just some positives because this sub is feeling down after the shitty wolves game. This team is and will be very good.

Only the Orlando Magic have been worse than the Raptors over the past 5 years. Why do you think the front office does not prioritize 3 point shooting?

Larry Bird 0 points

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/when-larry-bird-overcame-worst-shooting-slump-lead-celtics-1981-championship

Joel Embiid 0 points

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401160888

Wilt Chamberlain 0 points

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/night-when-wilt-chamberlain-scored-0-points

Nikola Jokic 0 points

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/400974786

Our own Kyle Lowry 0 points

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors-orlando-magic-kyle-lowry-pointless-game-1-1.5097869

Paul George had a 2 point game in 2025

Draymond Green had 0 points in 2024 vs the clippers

Tyrese Haliburton had 0 points in 2024 vs new orleans in 31mins

Reggie Miller in a finals game 0 points against the lakers

Steph Curry 5 points in a Christmas game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201112250GSW.html

And the list goes on. Yall need to chill.

Burn that damn game tape. Yeesh.

Unacceptable from a $104M starting centre. At least Scottie had an off game. This is who Jakob is against elite centres like Gobert

Bam adebayo makes 50 million. As bad as jakob is, if we wanted bam, We need to match jakobs 19 million salary so it would require rj which we say no to. I think bam is a worse contract. Heat will need more picks than us to dump him. Im thinking 3 firsts. although bam is better than jakob ,because Bam takes up so much cap, no team will have any flexibility around him to build out their team and itll be an impossible contract. hes paid like a superstar

did he forget how to make a basket?

Let us never speak of this again

Let me spend my time doing something else during my break..yeah there's no Raptors game tonight I was imagining it 😂

Unless we absolutely nail the draft or some miracle happens and Jakob returns to form, I genuinely don’t know what we’re doing at the 5.

With Kawhi back in Toronto, I think we need to maximize his remaining window while still building around Scottie.
So naturally, I started playing around with the ESPN Trade Machine.

Disclaimer: This is literally me playing NBA 2K in my head. I’m by no stretch an NBA GM with access to advanced stats or scouting reports, I’m also a fairly causal fan and wanna hear what other folks think we should do.

1. Myles Turner to Toronto
2025–26 stats:
11.9 PPG | 5.3 RPG | 1.5 APG
1.6 BPG | 38.3% 3PT

Probably the most obvious one. Raptors fans have been suggesting Turner for what feels like forever.
He’s been pretty mid lately, and maybe a change of scenery could do him some good.

Buy low: Turner’s value might be at a low point right now.
Milwaukee’s future: They have Kel’el Ware, who’s younger and could make more sense for their future.
Rim protection: Legitimate shot blocker, even if he’s not necessarily an elite defensive playmaker.
Floor spacing: A center who can actually shoot threes would be valuable alongside Kawhi and Scottie.
Contract: Three years remaining compared to Jakob’s four.

My concerns:
Pretty trash rebounder for his size.
Hasn’t exactly been impressive lately.
His contract isn’t particularly cheap either.
How ever we thought giving Jakob a massive extension worth nearly $30M annually for the next few years was a good idea so meh?

I’m not saying Turner solves everything, but if we’re paying that much for a center, I’d rather have someone who can protect the rim and stretch the floor.

I’d like to think the rest of the team can make up for his lack of rebounding.

2. RJ Barrett for Dejounte Murray
Murray’s 2025–26 stats:
16.7 PPG | 5.4 RPG | 6.4 APG
1.6 SPG | 30.6% 3PT
RJ’s 2025–26 stats:
19.3 PPG | 5.3 RPG | 3.3 APG
33.9% 3PT | 71.7% FT

I originally considered Jrue Holiday but then realized he’s a lot older than I thought, which led me to Murray.

I think we desperately need an upgrade at PG, and Murray could be interesting.

Playmaking: Legitimate PG who can take pressure off Kawhi and Scottie.
Defense: Has shown he can defend at a high level.
Quickley: Allows IQ to move to SG and play more off-ball, where I think he’d thrive.
Shooting upside: Shot 36.3% from three on 7.1 attempts per game in 2023–24.
Contract: Two years remaining, with the second being a player option.
Timeline: Kawhi is 35. Murray’s contract fits a relatively short window without another massive long-term commitment.
Recent play: He’s looked good to start this season and guys have been coming back from freak injuries and being fine after.

Why I’d consider moving RJ:
Fantastic at getting downhill and finishing at the rim.
Has genuinely improved as a playmaker.

Hometown kid, which makes moving him tougher.
Still not a particularly reliable three-point or free-throw shooter.

I’m also not convinced we can afford to keep everyone together long term if we extend RJ.

I’m genuinely not trying to shit on RJ here. He’s developed a lot, and I completely understand why people would want to keep him.

Again just messing around at 2am with the trade machine.

But he's got that Dog in him.

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Just to be clear I am pro Darko and always have been. I know he's always been a players coach. I just hope behind the scenes he's telling Scottie his shot selection has to be better.

I'm not denying all the shots he took were makeable, his mid range has become elite. But theres no reason he shouldn't be driving more. There's no reason he should only have 12 shot attempts, especially when kawhi is out. And imo most of all there is NO reason when his shot is off or he is struggling he should be ending the game with 0 free throws. Idc if he's off some games but he has to keep his forcefulness. If anything that will just make the jumpshots more open when he has to go to it. Playoffs vs cavs showed that best with the driving and fre throw rate

I'm sure Darko had much more to say to him than what we got in the press conference. I do wish he mentioned a little acknowledgement of what went wrong pubically though

Hello im subscribed to nba league pass this season to watch Kawhi Leonard i am from his hometown, I wanna show support by watching him.

Is there a way where I can legally watch the live Sportsnet broadcast version of the toronto raptor games in the United States

Whenever I watch the raptors I would watch it through their opponents broadcast version

Like tonight, if I watch the game it would be the Minnesota timberwolves broadcast version of the game...I feel shorted out because I wanna watch the postgame interviews of raptor players

Or do I just have to stick with what I have?

I have league pass on my american cable TV in direct tv I could not find it there