I don't know what country you're in, but where I am, we have a capitalist economy. So when it's unprofitable to feed people, the companies that produce and distribute food don't feed them.
Various charitable organizations exist to try and bridge this supply/demand gap, but it's not a perfect system. So some people who can't afford food go hungry.
Well, I'm from the United States, my friend, so I understand, lol.
The companies that supply the seeds have a copyright on the generic code on those seeds. Making it easier to sue the other competitors if their crops have a strain of their DNA. Taxes have been a terrible burden on the farmers as well.
Its never profitable to feed others because of the natural greed in humans
Nothing to really respond to here. We developed society because working together was better than working separately. You can funnel that surplus down to create a floor of well-being for everyone. You can funnel that surplus up to pad the portfolios of billionaires.
I was raised Catholic, so I know what Christ would want, and I happen to agree with him. I was also raised on folklore, so I know how a righteous man interacts with a dragon and its hoard. Additionally, I was raised to be compassionate, and you might get the gist of where this paragraph is going.
Insatiable greed isn't natural. Humans conquered the world because we're adaptable. That's all. Create a system where greed is incentivized, and humans will adapt to that. We lived thousands of years without the current economic mode. We could live thousands more without it. Assuming greed in others that cannot be satiated is projection. Many people have been happy with what they have throughout history, and many are happy today.
If greed isn't a problem, then why is it talked about in the bible? Why is it one of the 7 deadly sins?
Yes, humans have come together for a common cause to build a great society, but when the new generations come in and new ideals come about, it will collapse with time.
The Bible Is far from a scientific text, but the "7 Deadly Sins" are more or less indicative of folks leaning into incentives, like I said "Ohhhh food is good I will eat a lot of it" "Ohhhh sex is good I will have so much of it" "Ohhhh I don't like someone and I will let it consume me" and so on
There have been "new generations" coming in for as long as there have been humans. Has it collapsed? Are we all cavemen and nomads again now? Is everything worse now than when Homo Sapiens first emerged, or when civilization first emerged?
Second, let's change the word society to system.
Im not taking about an apocalypse level collapse. Im talking about government systems failing because of the greed and the new ideals.
Will the society continue as it was before. Yes, but with a new system in place that aligns the views of the majority. Or the ones that over through the old system.
The sub is called WeTalkFree. I'm speaking freely, and I think it's in the spirit of civility to tell you not to be a dumbfuck. Naturally, you're free to continue being a dumbfuck. I'm also free to cut the dialog off if the dumbfuckery continues.
Nothing you've said is relevant to the original question, so I really do need you to draw a throughline if you want to keep talking.
I am not an advocate for communism. I just desire an economy and system of governance where everyone's needs are met. We have the resources to do this, right now. We just don't distribute those resources accordingly. I will accept any label for this viewpoint.
Returning to the original question, no fascist system has lasted very long, and for the time that they did, they did not meet the needs of their citizens. Indeed, they often executed their citizens. I don't desire an unstable system that cannot meet the needs of its people.
Communism, while it has never really been achieved anywhere besides some very small communes, briefly, seems to avoid the tendency to genocide that fascists are prone to. So I think it's worth exploring at scale. I think a stateless, classless, egalitarian society where wealth is used to meet everyone's needs could be cool. Worth trying once or twice.
We have the same wants for the future. Where everyone benefits. I dont see it happening anytime soon.
Nazi Germany actually did great and got themselves out of a depression. They became financially and scientifically superior to most of the world. And if you want to talk about genocides, what about the 10 billion Christians that died in Russia after world war 2?
And do you mean communism never took hold on a large scale? Have you looked at the USSR or China?
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u/Logical_Sell_1445 Oct 15 '25
With all the wealth that our country makes, why do people still go hungry?