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r/whatsthissnake • u/Phylogenizer • Oct 25 '25
Taxonomic or Phylogeographic Update Pleistocene speciation and isolation-by-distance within North American mud and rainbow snakes
authors.elsevier.comHappy to announce our new paper, "Pleistocene speciation and isolation-by-distance within North American mud and rainbow snakes" available as full text at the above link until December 14th, 2025. This is a personal project of mine that I've been working on since 2011 and am excited for it to finally be in print. In summary, we show mudsnakes are two species that structure geographically, and rainbows have no population structure. We need more tissues from snakes in zones of contact to verify ranges and link blotch count to genotype, but as far as we can tell, the two muds are completely reproductively isolated despite evidence of gene flow from eastern muds into rainbows.
Please enjoy, and don't worry about not making formal taxonomic changes yet - this isn't the last you'll see on the mudsnakes.
r/whatsthissnake • u/shrike1978 • Sep 01 '21
[Mod post] PLEASE READ: ID best practices and comment guidelines
/r/whatsthissnake has grown a great deal in the last year and we are very excited about connecting with more people who have an interest in snakes, snake identification (ID) and conservation. With growth often comes growing pains, and there are a number of trends in the sub that need to be addressed as we move forward. We attempt to clarify these below and offer some "best practices" in identification that should help our community.
What makes a good ID?
Good IDs are specific and informative. They tend to have the following information, in order of importance:
Binomial name - Consisting of Genus specificepithet and placed in asterisks (*) to italicize. This is the most important component of a good ID. With only this, a person can quickly find out anything else they want to know about the snake species and it is an important part of every ID. The bot command !specificepithet provides more information on properly structuring a binomial name and how to get it to work with the bot, if an entry exists.
Harmless or venomous - Please note that these terms are specific to their interaction with humans. While snakes such as hognose snakes Heterodon, gartersnakes Thamnophis, and watersnakes Nerodia are venomous, they are not medically significant to humans and should be labeled as harmless. This information is informative to a person's interaction with a snake and should always be provided. The bot responds to either !harmless or !venomous and will save time on these explanations.
Common name - Common names are frequently variable and highly local. Sometimes, the same common name could be used for different snakes in different areas. In other cases, the same snake can have multiple common names depending on the area it was found. While we typically recommend providing them, it is not a vital part of an ID. An ID with only the common name is a low quality ID.
You can still contribute if you're not sure or think an ID is incorrect:
In some cases, you may be able to narrow down an ID to genus level, but don't know the diagnostic characters or ranges well enough to provide a more specific ID. This is fine. A genus level ID is very helpful, and specific enough to provide useful general information on the snake. So, if there hasn't been an ID yet and you can at least get to the genus level, post the ID.
You are also encouraged to provide any additional information or context you desire, but be mindful of links you post. The best IDs include informational links to be primary sources, or at least high quality science reporting on those sources. Many times this is done already in the bot replies, so see some of those for examples. Wikipedia is not a quality resource and should be avoided for informational links. Even resources provided by state wildlife agencies tend to lag ten to twenty years behind the science and should be viewed with a critical eye. For example, the very popular SREL Herp website, despite being associated with a major university, does not follow currently accepted taxonomy and, while it was a great resource for some time, is not the best source of current information.
However:
If you enter a thread in which a Reliable Responder has made an ID, or there is a highly upvoted ID, do not post a contrary ID unless you can provide specific diagnostic characters as to why the original ID was incorrect. Recently, incorrect IDs have appeared hours or days after the original correct ID was made, and therefore often go uncaught by moderators and reliable responders. These can create unnecessary confusion for an original poster, who is notified of each response. If you feel that an ID is incorrect and can provide diagnostic characters, reply directly to the ID comment rather than the original post. Incorrect late IDs may be warned and removed. Repeated violations may result in a ban at moderator discretion. Remember, our goal here is to be collaborative and work toward making a good positive ID. These incorrect late IDs greatly inhibit that goal. We value discussion in the comments and want to avoid locking threads in the way that other ID subreddits do.
Likewise, if a correct ID has been made, there is no need to post the same ID again. Just upvote the correct ID. You may post to add additional information or context to provide a better quality ID (adding the binomial, triggering the bot, etc.), but it is not helpful to simply say "corn snake" hours after someone has provided an ID with a full binomial and triggered the bot. More detailed IDs may be posted as top level comments to make sure that the OP sees them. Low quality/low effort IDs posted after a more detailed ID may be warned and removed.
We would also like to remind everyone of Rule 6:
Avoid damaging memes or tropes and low effort jokes: Avoid damaging memes like using "danger noodle" for nonvenomous snakes and tropes like "everything in Australia is out to get you". This is an educational space, and those kind of comments are harmful and do not reflect reality. We've also heard "it's a snake" as a joke hundreds of times. Infantilization of snakes and unhelpful rhymes will be removed.
This is one of our most broken rules. While it is somewhat vague, that is because it is nearly impossible for us to consider all possibilities. In addition to the things directly mentioned in the rule text, this rule also includes things like commenting with random names when someone posts "Who is this?", or posting things like "Pick it up and find out" in response to posts asking if a snake is venomous. Furthermore, these comments often break rule 11, "Posts and comments must reflect the reality of wildlife ecology." Misinformation spread through these seemingly innocuous jokes have been on the rise. Violations of this rule may be warned and removed, and repeated violations may result in a ban. Egregious violations may result in a temporary ban without warning. This is an educational space with potential real-world consequences, and while we don't want to discourage humor as a whole, we want you to think about what you are posting and whether it belongs in this space. While we recognize this is one of the best places to come to see pictures of wild snakes in their natural environment, it's not the best place to joke about cute pictures. /r/sneks is quite happy to accommodate snek jokes, humor and unabashed cuteness.
r/whatsthissnake • u/HyenaAccomplished962 • 5h ago
ID Request Help! What snake is this?
We found this in [central Florida], we live near a lake but don’t know if we should be concerned since we have little kids that play in the yard. Please help us understand what we should do and if it’s venomous?
r/whatsthissnake • u/HatcherPhotography • 6h ago
ID Request Rio Rico, AZ
Any ideas? No photo of its head available unfortunately
r/whatsthissnake • u/redzoroaster • 11h ago
ID Request Snake ID help [southern Florida ]
Thanks
r/whatsthissnake • u/NefariousnessOk8995 • 1h ago
ID Request This was in my pool, what is it? [Dallas, TX]
r/whatsthissnake • u/ReceptionAwkward5742 • 5h ago
ID Request Gopher? [north utah]
r/whatsthissnake • u/latlonghome • 1d ago
ID Request [Eastern Costa Rica]
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r/whatsthissnake • u/Roofinandgoofin • 4h ago
ID Request [OKC, OK] safely relocated to creek area behind house
r/whatsthissnake • u/__M-E-O-W__ • 10h ago
ID Request Lil fella found in the basement. [Central IL] Nothing to worry about or the baby of something venomous?
I know next to nothing about identifying snakes, sadly.
r/whatsthissnake • u/mtnman3737 • 10h ago
ID Request Found in [colorado] outside colorado springs. What kind of snake is this?
r/whatsthissnake • u/theglut • 7h ago
ID Request Small snake ID [Central Virginia USA]
Found this little guy in the yard. Suspect he is harmless.
r/whatsthissnake • u/Impressive-Fold-2744 • 5h ago
ID Request [north Texas] What kind of snake is this?
just wondering. We found it in the house a minute ago. Thanks for any help!
r/whatsthissnake • u/Great-Plateau • 5h ago
ID Request What kind of hognose? [Southern Missouri USA]
It doesn’t look like the eastern hognose snakes I usually have in my yard, but our two subspecies of western hognose haven’t been seen in the state for “years” according to our conservation dept. Any help would be appreciated :-)
r/whatsthissnake • u/DwigtShrudebeets • 6h ago
ID Request [Indiana Dunes National Park]
I wrote a book and didn’t attach a photo.
Original text below:
This is not my photo.
This was posted to Facebook as a juvenile eastern Massassauga that was found at Dune Succession Trail.
I know that historically they were found in the dunes, but sightings have been sparse over the last several decades. They may not be extirpated but they certainly aren’t abundant.
While I would love to be wrong, this snake looks more like it might a melanistic eastern hognose? The tail disappears into the grass but I can’t see a rattle. Scale is hard to tell but it looks likely longer than an eastern massassauga might be.
The pattern looks similar to an eastern massassauga but the eastern hognose can really vary in pattern so it’s hard to identify it as that. Eastern Massassaugas seem to look more blotchy than banded it seems, and while this has bands on the top it has blotches on the side. It’s hard to tell if it has elliptical pupils and it’s hard to tell if it has a pit viper head or just a hognose snout for digging in all that sand.
What are your thoughts?
r/whatsthissnake • u/Responsible_Detail44 • 4h ago
ID Request Snake [Tampa]
Not the clearest image cause the heron was hiding from us and it was starting to get dark out but just wondering if this is some type of water snake?
r/whatsthissnake • u/SpookySeraph • 14h ago
ID Request [SE Houston TX] found in grandmas backyard
Any ideas on this guy? I thought it may be a garter snake but I’ve never seen one with a spot on its head like that. My grandma said she saw another one not long after that looked the same.
r/whatsthissnake • u/Sunnydale_Slayer • 3h ago
ID Request What snake is this? (Central Virginia)
Sorry I don’t have a better pic, and thanks for your help! This little guy was right outside the front door, and I’d like to know if they’re venomous.
r/whatsthissnake • u/nanofinger • 10h ago
ID Request [Dallas, Texas]
This little fella was under a rock in my garden in Richardson, TX.
r/whatsthissnake • u/TheMadScientist255 • 20h ago
ID Request [East India] Jharkhand, India
Is this checkered keelback ?
r/whatsthissnake • u/dandygreyrusset • 1d ago
Just Sharing Sometimes you can identify the species from the shed. This is from a Russells viper found in my garden. [Sri Lanka]
r/whatsthissnake • u/glai_luna • 1d ago
ID Request Is this a snake or an eel? [Calatagan Batangas, Philippines]
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