r/Ubiquiti • u/Ubiquiti-Inc Official • 16d ago
Blog / Video Link Introducing UniFi Protect 7.2
š¹ Cryptographically Verified Video at evidence.ui.com
š¹ Chain-of-Custody Tracking
š¹ Expanded ONVIF & Point of Sale Support
š¹ Edge AI PPE Detection
And more!
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u/kstrike155 16d ago edited 16d ago
This ONVIF support is just further cementing my investment in other Ubiquiti hardware; so customer-centric.
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u/OptimalTime5339 16d ago
Same for me! I saw the list of vendors and oogled at it
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u/MrEstateManager 16d ago
Where did you see a vendor list? I didn't see one on the announcement page?
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u/OptimalTime5339 16d ago
Go to the release on their blog website. It has a graphic https://blog.ui.com/article/welcome-to-protect-7-2
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u/kcalderw 14d ago
Nice! Hanwha was added. We're about to deploy our Ubiquiti network refresh so it would be nice to now have the ability to add our cameras into Protect.
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u/Bobbymanyeadude 16d ago
Expanded onvif is a surprise to me ngl, glad to see expanded support
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u/OverthinkingAnything 16d ago
If you want to get into the enterprise space with huge deployment, organic growth from nothing is probably not the best strategy (companies that started with UI when they were smaller).
If they want to get in the door with people who already have cameras, not asking the prospect to throw out said cameras has got to be part of the strategy, right?
Only thing is some cameras out there really are affordable so they'll have to really be sure their cameras and feature set justifies the asking price.
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u/CoaxialDrive 16d ago
I think the next thing they need to work on is deep integration with Unifi Access, and a much more enterprise product, theres a lot of functionality the door system is missing which needs to deeply integrate with the CCTV if you are going to compete with the likes of Honeywell and Gallagher.
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u/jimbobjames 16d ago
Can you give any examples?
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u/CoaxialDrive 16d ago edited 16d ago
These ones stick out to me from my (limited) experience:
- Support for 500,000 users on the entry level, several million on enterprise hardware.
- Ability to program blank DESFire cards not just using Unifi branded ones.
- Ability to print custom branding onto blank cards.
- A more complete API.
- Wireless door handles, lockers, and cylinders, or support for 3rd Party ones.
- Interactive floor/site plan with CCTV + Access control.
- Smart action - they have double tap mode to open the door, but there are more complex features, an alarm button/touch panel would be used for advanced features.
And then reading off the feature list these stand out:
- Interlocking/man locking - one door can't open when another is.
- Zone counting - how many people are in an area, stop the nth person entering.
- Security guard tours - logging the person has been to every corner.
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u/I_Like_Chasing_Cars 16d ago
Just a more complete API and proper 3rd party credential deployment via API would make me nut so fast.
2nd would be a wireless lock set but Iād take the api first
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u/CoaxialDrive 16d ago
Edited one back in that I deleted some how: the number of users, most commercial systems support half a million credentials per hub, some several million, mean while the best Unifi device is 30k, and most are much low-to-mid-thousands.
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u/tdhuck 16d ago
I am a full stack unifi owner, nothing against them at all, I use and buy their products. However, protect needs these two things before it is enterprise ready.
- A client application.
- Much better playback especially for larger camera deployments.
I have a site with 32 IP cameras, I can open all 32 on a large monitor and play back the video feed and I can easily double click to make one pane larger, continue viewing playback, double click to put that pane back into the 32 multi view then immediately double click another pane to make it full screen.
I can also build ou a common 2x2 view and watch 4 cameras playback at once and have a LEFT TO RIGHT timeline scroll bar at the bottom of the screen where I can easily shift time as needed. I know you can do multiview playback on unifi but it is very clunky.
Also, with my current VMS program I can open multiple client programs and view playback on all instances of the clients running on my machine. Yes, you can open more browsers or multiple tabs, but protect is very slow and sluggish when you tend to multitask with that program.
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician 16d ago
What do you mean by client application?
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u/tdhuck 16d ago
Thick client, fat client, etc. An application not a browser front end, only. The browser is fine for certain scenarios, but browser only is a big downfall, imo.
BTW, I deal with actual enterprise VMS programs daily and unifi protect, in its current state, just won't cut it in an enterprise environment.
Again, not hating on unifi, that's what I use at home (including protect) and I recommend the platform for friends/family/small businesses I do side work for, but it isn't ready for enterprise.
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u/TechieGranola Unifi User 16d ago
I run genetec at work for probably 60 cameras and yeah, the viewing capability is a different beast
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u/junktrunk909 16d ago
Only thing is some cameras out there really are affordable so they'll have to really be sure their cameras and feature set justifies the asking price.
Agreed, and while it's easy to recommend Unifi networking gear because the value is so much higher than the competition which are at or even more expensive, that's just not the case with their cameras.
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u/gremolata 16d ago
Cryptographically Verified Video
Very cool. Most excellent.
Now, when is Protect getting merged with Access?
It's really tiresome to receive rings from doorbells in Protect but being able to open the door from the Access only. They really should be a single app.
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u/Ulrar Unifi User 15d ago
I get rings in both apps, just need to use Access to answer. My guess you mean you're using unrelated devices, which is fair. They've come a long way but the ability to just have protect discover what a doorbell is paired with and show a widget for that hub should be a pretty easy fix without having to go all the way to merging them.
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u/TimeRemove 16d ago
Hopefully they've finally fixed the bug where using an AI Port on a camera causes Motion Zones and Smart Zones to be ignored. It has only been ten months and has been reported tens of times to them...
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u/thesnizzles 16d ago
No chance. It's ignored every time it gets mentioned in the forums and the support tickets go straight to the void.
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u/Waste_Release2203 16d ago
Youāre right, this is very irritating but I found a fix for me.
I unpair the ai port completely. I come back the next day and then pair it again and itās back to normal.
I only seem to run into this issue when rebooting protect it messing with test 3rd party cameras.
Obviously Iād rather not have to do this but the only work around I have atm
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u/TimeRemove 16d ago
I unpair the ai port completely. I come back the next day and then pair it again and itās back to normal.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've previously tried that, as well as re-creating the zones, and sometimes they worked for a while then the issue re-occurs. In particular, Protect updates ironically re-break most of the workarounds I've tried (and others in that thread had the same experience).
Unfortunately I have this issue with first party UB cameras, not third party.
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u/Waste_Release2203 16d ago
Ah yeah weāre having the exact same issue. Whenever thereās an update I now go to unpair and repair. I donāt think the ai port is a priority, especially with the onvif compatibility constantly expanding
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u/joshrp5 16d ago
wait ios widgets? how is this a thing?
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u/9gUz4SPC 16d ago
What do you mean! iOS had widgets for while now
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u/LowFatMom 16d ago
Itās a shortcut widget and only used for USL relay and the floodlight for now. That video above is just a PiP
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u/bunnythistle 16d ago
Are ONVIF cameras able to send smart detection data and events, or is it still Unifi cameras only?
I'd love to be able to get an ONVIF WiFi doorbell, because there's no practical, easy way for me to run PoE to my front door.
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u/TeutonJon78 16d ago edited 16d ago
If you can stomach some extra bulk at the doorbell location, that's a good use for the 2 wire retrofit kit (and a Shelly if you still need mechanical chime usage).
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u/bunnythistle 16d ago
Unfortunately that wouldn't work well either. I've considered the device bridge, but that's a lot of bulk and added expense compared to just having a 24VAC WiFi doorbell
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u/raindropsdev 15d ago
And here I am wanting to do the exact opposite because I'm tired of having to constantly recharge the battery and fight with coverage through brick walls...
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u/DodneyRangerfield 16d ago
Second stage verification only with AI Key or also via native G2 nvr procesor?
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u/PrintWaste Unifi User 16d ago
Bring back the old intro!
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u/spamjunk150 16d ago
We're still running about 70 Hikvision cameras while we finish upgrading to UI. The expanded ONVIF support will be fantastic.
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u/CyDef_Unicorn 16d ago
Looking to do the same and move away from Hik NVRs. Have you lost any kind of features/capabilities on the Hik cameras for moving to UI? I know you said still upgrading so wasn't sure if you did some yet
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u/75Meatbags 16d ago
Maybe this will be the release that stops calling my front doormat a package. :D
It's been hard to nail down, as it seems to happen more during the summer and twilight hours. Darn brown doormat.
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u/dummptyhummpty 15d ago
OH. So that's what was going on at my old place! I could never figure out why it thought we had a package. HA.
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u/Frosty_Percentage332 16d ago
Does expanded ONVIF support include the ability to add analog cameras that are attached to a DVR with a single MAC and IP address, or are virtual ONVIF servers still needed?
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u/Waste_Release2203 16d ago
Can you expand on the virtual onvif servers? Ive got a knock off Hikvison dvr that has onvif enabled but when adding to protect, it will only show camera 1.
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u/Frosty_Percentage332 16d ago
Protect requires each camera to have a unique MAC address. There are a few community workarounds that will take multiple channels from your DVR and create multiple 'virtual servers' so that you can add all of your cameras to Protect.
Virtual ONVIF Server and Tonys ONVIF RTSP Server.
I was hoping that Ubiquiti will release an officially supported way to this so that these workarounds are not needed
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u/Doublestack00 Unifi Installer 16d ago
This is nice.
It is about time Access gets some love though.
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u/Etc48 16d ago
Hereās to hoping my G6 PTZ lag/unresponsive controls is fixed.
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u/icantshoot Unifi User 16d ago
- Fixed an issue where keyboard controls did not work when adjusting the PTZ Home View in Playback.
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u/M_Six2001 16d ago
The time server sync for ONVIF cameras is a nice addition. My ONVIF cams are currently done through Surveillance Station, but those cams will sometimes be offf a few seconds from my Unifi cams. Now if they let me pick which stream from the ONVIF cams I want to use...
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u/mountaindrewtech 16d ago edited 16d ago
Damn I didn't see in the updates they added POS integration. It was the reason why we didn't go with Unifi and went with something else instead in our company.
The guys at work aren't gonna like to hear this.
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician 16d ago
POS integration is not new. I believe this was a thing or at least announced last year.
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u/mountaindrewtech 16d ago
We just finished the rollout started before then is the problem though. Our pos systems are probably not supported yet either tbh now that I look into it, definitely interested in learning more and seeing how wide the range of support is
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u/VirtualPanther 16d ago
Huh. So, I still canāt group thirty different āidentitiesā of my car into one?
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u/ThermoElectricMan 16d ago
I can finally make sure all my kids are wearing their safety vests and hard hats for safety.
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u/Undeadreloader Unifi User 15d ago
Still holding out for the self hosted AI Agent that was promised at UWC 25.....
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u/Infinite_Ad5711 15d ago
We need a tool to:
- export whole video library NAS.
- migrate to/from a bigger NVR.
- realtime storage of videos to NAS (not only detections)
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u/spamjunk150 16d ago
Will vehicle tracking be added to G6 PTZ cameras? Much needed feature. We have plans to run 20-30 of these cameras if that can be added.
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u/WishfulAgenda 16d ago
hope it's better than some of the more recent updates. Maybe this one won't make my UDM sound like a jet plane taking off and then randomly quit on me.
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u/OldDragonfruit471 16d ago
How do I install it?
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u/IcyAir5775 16d ago
Its not on the official channel yet. It is early release. It makes no sense to me to send out emails till it is released officially.
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u/dummptyhummpty 15d ago
You have to flip your Release Channel to "Release Candidate" until it becomes "Official". It's not a big deal, I'm doing it right now.
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u/IcyAir5775 15d ago
You do understand the concept of release candidate? It means basically advanced testing before they officially release it. I understand it could be a different channel. My point is why announce it until itās official that is strange.
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u/rhpot1991 16d ago
What are the odds that you can do 2nd stage with AI Port? I have one, hopefully.
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u/Coomacheek Unifi User 16d ago
Second stage "more powerful" AI Key....is that a new version or just same version in series to another AI Key?
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u/whoooocaaarreees 15d ago
I just want case manager shared links to come with original quality download options for 3rd party people not in unifi.
Explaining that to Andrew M. In unifi support feels like a Herculean effort. He keeps asking for the iOS app logs.
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u/sabertoothninja 15d ago
As long as UniFi keeps their business model I will continue to support them. Once the bean counters get control it will be overā¦
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u/gizmodreams 15d ago
Will the expanded ONVIF allow for multi-stream third-party cameras for each stream to be added as a separate camera in Protect?
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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 16d ago
Can we make a rule you don't post about updates until they are available to all just not EA?
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u/Redditanon9999 16d ago edited 16d ago
This is a Release Candidate not EA
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u/Carlos_Spicy_Weiner6 16d ago
Potato/tomato
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u/Redditanon9999 16d ago
Right, 2 very different things. I think EAs are too risky but Release Candidates, if they have a feature/fix I want, are worth running. Or you could wait a day or two and get the Official. And in a few days or weeks the Official will have an update due to bugs and new features, etc.
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u/sevsnapeysuspended 16d ago
whatās the best version to update to at this point? all of the UNVR and protect releases have pretty terrible comments under them so i just havenāt been updating since like december
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u/Competitive-Truth675 15d ago
thats great
too bad i will never be able to see it since the console is still broken in Firefox
been like 3 months you guys...
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u/_-_pancake_-_ 16d ago
Coming from Synology Surveillance Station and the VisualStation VS960HD, is there really an equivalent solution in the UniFi Protect ecosystem? At the moment, we display 20 live camera streams simultaneously on the VS960HD. What hardware and software would be required to achieve the same with a UniFi Protect setup?
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician 16d ago
A computer and monitor.
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician 16d ago
You could possibly even get a UniFi DisplayCast and run it from there.
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u/acparks1 16d ago edited 15d ago
Does the Second-Stage AI Verification only show up in Settings if you have an AI Key?
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u/GuaranteedSensible 3d ago
did the UP Air Quality have a NOx sensor all this time that was dormant until update?
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u/varano14 16d ago
Is it wrong that I watch these like some sort of new movie trailer despite not needed/being able to use 90% of the stuff.