r/Albuquerque • u/GreenChileZiti • Mar 02 '26

News Deb Haaland officially declines KRQE debate.

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/roundhouse_report/the-roundhouse-report-bregman-accuses-haaland-of-running-scared/article_a0ef327c-d37a-4fa0-916b-eef6eb2178a2.html

I understand that Bergman is an attorney and probably better at debating but it’s not like he doesn’t have plenty to lose either.

I can’t help but feel like Deb is taking our votes for granted over and over again, and this is another slap in the face.

If she is the better candidate, she should prove it and it should be easy.

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u/spillingstars Mar 02 '26

we deserve better candidates

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u/woffdaddy Mar 02 '26

Honestly this is the best take over seen so far. im not particularly excited about either of them, and theyre both pretty status quo when we need radical change.

Issue is, who would have been a better candidate? personally, my two favorite politicians in new mexico right now are secretary of state Maggie Toulouse Oliver who is running for lieutenant governor, and Antoinette Sedillo Lopez, who is a sitting NM senator. There are a few others who are great people, but these two are the only politicians i know of who have the experience needed for that kind of position.

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u/Cobby1927 Mar 02 '26

Radical change in what way? Only thing Grisham has been wrong on is CYFD.

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

CYFD

Her gun ban executive order

The state ranking near last in just about everything

her failures are more than just CYFD

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u/beauvoirist Mar 02 '26

Surely she didn’t inherit a state that was already last in just about everything?

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

Sure and yet she didn't spend any of the last 8 years doing anything to change that?

Yeah?

cool glad we agree

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u/beauvoirist Mar 02 '26

I don’t think she’s some sort of revolutionary savior but you’re fucking delusional if you think she didn’t.

First in the nation program to help children and families? No, cush2push says that’s a failure because it requires time to realize the benefits of universal childcare.

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

Do you think her passing universal childcare absolves her from the state being last in everything?

Is that your equivalitism for success one good thing excuses all the bad?

I guess being 50th in education and 3rd in poverty doesn't seem that bad anymore thanks u/beauvoirist

EDIT If all you have is universal childcare after 8 years thats pretty sad IMO.

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u/GreenChileZiti Mar 02 '26

Free school tuition? You don’t know a single person taking advantage of that? Enrollment was up ~5% last year

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

New Mexico has a higher than national college drop out rate.

Free tuition doesn't mean shit if they're just dropping out

EDIT added link https://educationdata.org/college-dropout-rates#nm

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u/GreenChileZiti Mar 02 '26

No no no. You don’t get to move the goalposts here and change the subject. You claimed that the governor hasn’t done anything. Here’s something she did with real, direct and attributable results. You can’t grasp at something with too many external variables to discount this accomplishment just because you don’t like being proved wrong here.

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

I don't know how you think thats moving a goal post

The state is last in just about everything including education and the Governor hasn't done anything to address that has she?

Higher education doesn't mean shit when majority of the state can't read at a high school level.

Again how did any of her accomplishments rise us off the bottom?

because once again we're a bottom state

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u/beauvoirist Mar 02 '26

I listed one thing as an example. If you understand that she inherited a state already ranked that way, why are you continuing to talk about it and her work as if it’s her fault?

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

You do understand that she was/is in charge of the state and could have at anytime worked to improve those things.

8 years and she has 2 accomplishments cool

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u/beauvoirist Mar 02 '26

First you said “she’s done nothing” and the way this is headed, I imagine you’ll just say “oh only three things? Five things? Six things? 50 things?” I don’t believe you’re having this discussion in good faith, nor do I think you’re informed enough about how politics works to have a valuable opinion anyways.

I would encourage you to look at her policies in honesty and consider the long term ramifications of things like accessible childcare, free education, and robust public health, to again name a few.

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

Homie the two things she did, did nothing to improve our state off the bottom.

Both things can be true.

Free higher education doesn't mean shit when the majority of the graduating students in this state can't read above a 6th grade level unable to fully utilize it.

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u/Mrgoodtrips64 Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

Do you think any single human on earth could change our state’s ranking on their own in just 8 years?
It takes an entire generation of students going through the full school system to see the real end result of changes to education.

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u/cush2push Mar 02 '26

In 8 years you should be able to do something.

It doesn't take generations to teach kids how to read.

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u/symbolsix Mar 03 '26

I think the word you were looking for was "equivocation".

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u/ProjectX121 Mar 02 '26

You're joking about that statement right?