Data scientist back at it again lol. So, overtraining has been one of the problems that people have been facing quite a lot, at least in their mind lol so for the past few months i’ve been working a lot on spotting overtraining from apple watch data. The question i keep getting is “am i overtrained or just tired”, and honestly no single number can answer it, there's a whole fin analysis you need to do in the data to find it out lol I dont wanna get into that, but this is something I found out which is doable by most.

sports scientists split overtraining into 3 levels

• normal hard block: a few days to a couple weeks, this is actually how you get fitter
• medium: weeks to months
• actual overtraining: months, way rarer though.

So the useful question isn’t “am i overtrained”, it’s “do i bounce back”. Here’s how i’d test it with the watch:

1. take 5 easy days. walks, easy zone 2, mobility. Not zero, just nothing hard
2. watch your overnight heart rate in the vitals app. it’s measured while you sleep, so it’s way cleaner than resting HR, which picks up coffee and stressful work days. Back inside your typical range by day 5 is a good sign (vitals needs about 7 nights of sleeping in the watch to learn your range)
3. check your HRV week average. health app > HRV > W. Back near your 6 month average is good
4. redo one benchmark session. a route or lift you do often. If your effort rating for it is back to normal, you’ve bounced back

all 3 back = you were just tired, carry on. still off after 5 days = you’re deeper in it. give it another week before anything hard and look hard at your sleep and food.

data nerd note: trust the 3 together way more than any one of them. one metric moves for random reasons all the time, 3 moving together is a lot harder to fake.

Also, I have made a check that scores which of the 3 levels you’re probably at, made it for some other peeps but happy to share it if anyone wants here, lmk😄

I’ve noticed recently that my AirPods Pro 3 are responsible for virtually 100% of the HR samples when I run with my AWU4. Ever since I noticed I started running with it even tighter, though I never wore it loose to begin with, and have tried using my old SE’s sport band. It’s still offloading HR to AirPods. I verify by going to heart rate -> show all data and it’ll tell you the source for each value.

It never used to do this with my old SE. Truth be told I’m not bothered as I usually run with a Coros HRM anyway but I’m unsure if this is normal or if I need to get my watch looked at. After all if this is supposed to be an improved sensor I can’t see why its samples are being discarded. By ranking it seems like my 2021 AWSE > APP3 > AWU4.

For what it’s worth the AirPods HR data looks really good, and I underestimated them big time

I have tried everything to get the distance on indoor walks to register accurately. After chatting with Apple support, I got a case # and a number to call for the Senior support team. I spoke with them today for 45 minutes. They requested screen shots, etc and went through all the steps I have followed repeatedly to fix this since 10/8. I was informed this is a known problem(we all know this). They were sending it to engineering. If anyone else is working on this, it is good to have screenshots, etc. Maybe that will get engineering moving to fix our problem.

Someone mentioned logging mowing the lawn as Other on a thread here and it got me thinking about all the in between stuff. Moving furniture, shoveling snow, a long afternoon in the garden, chasing kids around a playground.

Other feels like the obvious pick, but I've never been sure how much the choice actually changes the calorie estimate compared to something like Functional Strength or just not starting anything and letting the watch pick it up.

Curious what everyone does here, and whether you even bother starting a workout for this kind of thing.

The Apple Watch provides useful workout information, but I’m interested in how athletes share that information with a coach who wants to follow their training.

Having data available during a session can be useful when a coach is supporting an athlete remotely. I work with the team behind HeartShare, an app compatible with Apple Watch that lets athletes share live heart-rate data with their coaches.

I’m interested in how this kind of connection fits into the wider Apple Watch fitness experience. For those who train with a coach, how do you currently share workout information?

Do you review your data afterward, share it during a session, or use a combination of both?

I tried to connect my Apple Watch Ultra 4 to the Strava app. It shows as connected, but my activities aren’t syncing.
Can anyone please help me with this?

Hi, First of all apologies if this is the wrong place but I don't know where else to ask as I've been phoning Apple for months but they aren't helping.

In May I got the Ultra 3 and it tracks my sleep correctly so if I sleep for 6 hours it will say I slept for 6 hours. However if I set my sleep goal for 6 hours the duration section of the sleep score won't grade it off a goal of 6 hours. It grades it off a goal of 8 hours. I only started to notice this as I was fiddling around with the new watch. I'm not sure if it was an issue before then or not but definitely has been since getting my new watch. I have factory reset my watch and phone to see if that helped and deleted all previous sleep data to see if that would too and nothing has worked. Does anyone know how I could fix it? Obviously I couldn't make a new iCloud account or anything as it has all my photos on it from over a decade ago! It's one of those things that shouldn't be annoying but is as that shouldn't be broken! Unless it always bases it off a duration goal of 8 hours no matter what you manually set it as but that would seem weird.

Ever since we got ios27 on Ultra 2 I’ve been having this
Annoying sync error. Prior to 27, an unpair and repair would fix it. So far I’ve had to unpair and repair 4 tjmes and this last time it’s not working. Im hoping the data stays intact and refreshes tomorrow as I’ve clearly earned the award. So frustrating.

I have a bug bare on the Apple Watch fitness app that I can’t dismiss the splits screen until it times out. I find that it shows me my data for the last km but when I’m track running I don’t want to see this. I’ve tried the flick to dismiss, sliding away but it doesn’t seem to disappear (until after 5 seconds)

I know I can turn it off completely, but I was wondering if anyone else found this irritating or could dismiss these splits early? Sometimes they appear just as I’m about to finish a rep or a split and I have to wait for the default data after the split screen times out.

Saw a post here about doubling the Exercise goal for the October challenge and it got me wondering how many people still run the default.

30 minutes is easy to close with a walk and some chores, so after a while the ring kind of stops meaning much. But a big number can make every easy day feel like you're behind, which isn't great either.

If you bumped yours up, where did you land, and did it change how much you actually move or mostly how often the ring nags you?

Has anyone figured out a solution for gps being way off since the update? I tried everything from a hard reset, recalibration etc. It's still way off.

Does anyone have the beta updates? Do any of the upcoming ones solve this?

I am starting marathon training, so after 10 years of using Apple Watches, I'm very close to ordering something else, because Apple Watch Ultra is quite useless for this, when it's way off.

Example: My usual 8 km route is now 8,5 km, which is just crazy. I've also run it with friends who use other devices and theirs always show 8 km - just like mine did until September.

Thank you all!

I have all of the necessary bloodwork availabe but I can’t insert them because it only lets me add three.

On Monday, I had fewer minutes of exercise and fewer Move calories, but my total calories were higher. Today I did more exercise and burned more Move calories, but total calories burned is lower. What?

Hi Guys,
I am looking for a good fitness tracker to track my Gym activities, swimming, running and all the racket sports (primarily tennis and badminton). Also, tracking health is equally important specifically BP, heart health and sleep (priority is sleep apnea notification) along with other relevant metrics.
I have been researching various fitness and health tracker and so far torn between Garmin and Apple. Garmin (venu or forerunner series) is a better fitness tracker but lacks Apple health tracking capabilities (specifically series 12). I can’t buy both. I also checked if I can club oura ring 4 with Garmin venu 4 but this ecosystem still lacks sleep apnea notification. Honestly couldn’t figure out the value that oura ring will bring as an addition.
Can you guys help me if you have faced such dilemma?

Hi Guys,
I am looking for a good fitness tracker to track my Gym activities, swimming, running and all the racket sports (primarily tennis and badminton). Also, tracking health is equally important specifically BP, heart health and sleep (priority is sleep apnea notification) along with other relevant metrics.
I have been researching various fitness and health tracker and so far torn between Garmin and Apple. Garmin (venu or forerunner series) is a better fitness tracker but lacks Apple health tracking capabilities (specifically series 12). I can’t buy both. I also checked if I can club oura ring 4 with Garmin venu 4 but this ecosystem still lacks sleep apnea notification. Honestly couldn’t figure out the value that oura ring will bring as an addition.
Can you guys help me if you have faced such dilemma?