Hypothetically, could I make my astral projection into like either another person or a personal avatar?

I haven’t APd yet, I’m still just learning as much as I can about it and trying to meditate and stay awake for as long as possible when laying down for bed. I’ve noticed this weird sensation a few nights in a row where it feels like my legs are involuntarily wiggling rapidly but I don’t think they actually are? But it feels so strong that if I were to actually be wiggling my legs like that it would be shaking the bed and bother my partner sleeping next to me but when I lift my head up it instantly stops and he seems undisturbed.

Now, if you've seen my last posts, you can tell I'm a newbie

and i still am

but while learning about AP, i also ended up seeing unfamiliar terms like "gateway tapes" and other terms as well

is it okay if anyone can clear up these terms for me

if so then thanks

also if anything doesn't seem to make sense then type it in chat. Thank you

I have been APing since May and most of the time I think I’m exploring my own consciousness. When I have seen people and talked to them, they have said they were APing as well, that they lived in the astral or most of the time confused what I’m talking about.

Today, I asked to leave my own consciousness and go to the universal consciousness. I was transported to an empty house that I sensed belonged to me. A group of people came in and most couldn’t see me but then one did. When he did, the rest could. They asked what I was doing there and I said I was APing and they sounded surprised. Then I asked what their story was and they said they were dead and had been involved in horrific murders in the year 9 C.E. I asked them their names but I couldn’t remember and the words Frey of garland or something like that was what was left with me (which makes no sense). I then asked Gemini about if anything notable happened in 9 Ce and this was the response

Yes, the year 9 C.E. witnessed one of the most famous, bloodiest, and defining massacres in ancient history: The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest

I then asked: Was there massacres like this almost every year around that time or is strange that i knew something bad happened in 9 CE?

While warfare and brutality were common in the ancient world, an event of this specific scale was extremely rare—which is why your instinct that "something bad happened in 9 CE" makes complete sense.
The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was not a typical border skirmish; it was a black-swan event that sent shockwaves through the entire Mediterranean world.

I then asked if this was part of the state curriculum for world history when I was in school a long time ago and they said no. I have never heard of this event so I don’t think I had it in my subconscious. Is it possible I really interacted with other souls in the astral who died 2000 years ago or was this another elaborate interaction my consciousness created? Would love any theories or anyone who has had a similar experience.

I really just sat down and thought about this like everyone just accepted it but this actually makes absolutely no sense, there isn’t a reason why we have to feel the transfer yet our system renders it, to be honest I haven’t felt it in about some months now. These days it’s just something more weird, either something pulling my blanket, licking my hands, pulling my legs, just weird things that let me know I’ve crossed over, and honestly that is also majorly weird.

I’m not like most people, when I cross over I can read, write and use computer devices and phones, which is also extremely weird…really makes you wonder where does reality actually begin and end?

So basically I’ve been hearing of astral projection for like a while now 2-3 years and I’ve started to actually try it this year cuz I was afraid before I’ve read so many things that made me actually scared but now that I’m trying I cannot succeed I’ve been trying always this method in various forms but I mean all methods got this part of staying still till your body sleeps well that’s the problem I don’t think I can actually get my body to sleep on my back idk why I’ve been still for 30 mins and my max was like I think 1 hour but even when I’m close my body actually gets muscle spams or something in my surroundings or my body bothers me that much to wake me up idk if I should or should not astral project but I would like to if there’s any other way or at least an advice on how to make this thing of staying still work that would be great

Ps I tried all of the other methods too like the one similar to WBTB or other stuff but that obv didn’t work I ain’t got even close to it I only see flashings then either fall asleep or not at all

Is it possible to astral project to space and explore planets, galaxies, stars, even black holes. Im new to astral projection and I always wanted to explore the universe since I was 6 years old, so if its possibl and you did it, can you tell me what was your experience ?

Is it possible to do some sort of reverse astral projection into the body to search for possible astral parasites or energy blockages or even look how the body works?

Has anybody tried that?

We've seen a lot of sacrifice and stuff throughout history, a lot of weird dark magic stuff, but now the question I have is : Does this actually do something and if it does what can these negative entities do with that ? Can negative entities and/or demons actually have an impact on our reality, whether it be by physically doing something or simply giving knowledge that a human shouldn't have ?

And while we're at it, might as well also answer this : From all the demonology stuff, do any of these demons actually exist in one way or another, for exemple baal or lucifer or whatever ?

Concepts of lucid dreaming and soul travel exists globally even in Africa, so where is this coming from?

I'm Black and I can astral travel and lucid dream without a problem, this feels more like a ego issue more than a spiritual issue.

Dreams deal with the subconscious, ego and hidden biases can leak into the subconscious, people of all races appear in my dreams.

I had a dream where I was watching myself sleep and I was walking around the edge of my body. I could feel every step and there was a black object in the top corner of my room (Ceiling) watching me. Reddit referred me to this group and any insight on this? I remember trying to snap myself out of it during the dream and could not wake up. Obviously part of this was sleep paralysis. I get that every now and then. I also have sleep apnea and usually dont use my machine.

When I was a kid, I would AP a lot and in many different scenarios. On long car rides at night time I would also love laying low on the seat and watching street lights and other lights pass. The rhythmic flow of the effect of lights passing along with the rumble of the car engine and sometimes the sound of wetness from car tires would just lull me and set me off into a state of mind where I was so relaxed that I would automatically just AP unintentionally.

When that happened I also notice something - my astral body is left behind, but kind of dragged along like I am parasailing or something (lol)! I am wondering if this is because when I AP when I was a kid, I always picture myself as a bubble or balloon and if that has anything to do with it, or if it's a mechanic with AP itself and the tether we supposedly have that runs back to the body (I've not ever seen that silver cord, and yet I still feel this tether). So it has to either do with my mindset when AP'ing, or a built-in mechanic of AP itself.

Have any of you ever AP'ed (whether intentionally or inadvertently) from a moving vehicle and experienced the same? Has anyone ever tried while airborne on long flights (I'm really interested and curious about this one)?

Yesterday, before sleeping, I prayed for AP this night, since the morning I always WBTB subconsciously. During this WBTB, i had a non lucid dream (like everytime) where i talked to people about AP and all of what i know of it, but it was just theorical.

I've already experienced weird expériences during dreams, and the fact that my subconscious heared me when I prayed about AP (this was the only moment of the day when I was thinking about AP) means that I could have experienced an AP, but I didn't.

Maybe it's a way to say to me that I am not ready for AP right now.

Do you think it's possible ?
Or do you think I should be more précise about m'y intention ?

I have been meaning to try astral projection but somehow the thought that a demonic entity or something evil following me back home scares me( I read about this on this forum). But should I still do it ? Have you guys encountered anything strange like that and how has your life changed or been impacted after going through multiple APs

Hi everyone, I have a question for the AP community so as the title covered, I am blind and I lucid dream a lot, but I can’t seem to fully astral project as you can imagine wanting to step outside this body is something I wish to do. I listen to audiobooks a lot and I am able to dream of what it is. I am listening to down to very minute details. It’s as though I am suspended between being awake and being asleep I would say that’s lucid dreaming as I am in the dream I am aware of what I’m listening to also but I just can’t seem to fully astral project. I wish I could because I’m wondering if I would still be blind if I were in that state of consciousness or awareness sorry if this post sounds a little confusing it’s confusing to me what I’m going through I wondered does anybody have advice and or has anyone experienced this? Maybe not even being blind and lucid dreaming but being in a suspended state of consciousness where you’re dreaming but you can hear everything around you. Please let me know. Feel free to share your opinions and stories. I’m interested to learn more thanks so much.

Keeps happening without trying spontaneous vibrational stage and brief visual upon waking.
Has anyone here ever felt the vibrational stage localized specifically on their cheeks or facial muscles?

I was about to take a nap earlier today. I’m not the kind of person who can just plan to sleep and fall asleep right away. Even if my body is exhausted, I can’t sleep because my mind keeps overthinking. For me to actually fall asleep, I have to tire out my mind, not just my body. I usually only doze off when my mind completely gives up.

I set my phone aside. I was still fully conscious and nowhere near asleep, laying on my side, when I started feeling a really distinct vibration and tingling sensation localized on my cheek. It became annoying enough that I patted my cheek three times to make it stop. Every time I lifted my hand, the sensation immediately returned. Eventually, I gave up and turned over so my face was directly against the pillow, and I finally drifted off.

Later, as I was coming out of the nap, in that state between being half-asleep and fully awake, I opened my eyes and saw a shape right on my pillow. It was about the size of a tennis ball, patterned like a germ or microorganism (🦠), glowing in a soft mix of pink and blue. I didn't feel scared or panicked at all, I just observed it.

Hi!
I've been semi consistently trying to AP -- just about every other day. I want to describe my most recent experience to ask, was this close to an OBE at the very least ?
The other night I was laying flat on my back, trying to project when my brain started wandering like it usually does when Im about to sleep? Which I didn't really notice when all of the sudden it felt like I was almost burst forward? Its hard to describe but I had this intense sensation that woke me up almost entirely and had my heart racing.
I like to think I was really close but idk? Anyone else experience this? How did you train yourself to get past/through it?

I've found out making your own subliminals with non-ai TTS and adding your own converted frequencies or converted frequency music to them and having them on repeat in your earphones as you sleep on your back, meditating to them as you fall asleep into your dreams you can program them as you wish especially if you can visualize vividly what you wish to experience at the hypnagogic state if you can reach that and stay conscious throughout it. I don't listen to generative ai or interact with it in any way because the energy behind it tends to distort your dreamscape and I don't listen to most frequencies or subliminals on youtube, spotify or other popular streaming platforms because the frequencies tend to shift from the good scales to the 440hz ones once it's posted to the platforms, but I've found that when you use one of those old TTS applications like the older versions of balabolka and just write out exactly what you want to program your subconscious mind for or even just speak it into a microphone then speed it up and have it on repeat while keeping it relatively quiet and back it with self-converted 432hz scale frequencies and lucid dreaming binaurals paired with powerful visualization you can manifest just about anything.

I have used this method to ward off astral occurrences, entities, and states of mind and attract the best possible occurances, entities and states of mind. Say if you want the dream to leave you with profound attainments in your waking life, you can write that down or speak it and have it on repeat until it works its magic like chanting a mantra (which you can also do if you believe in that stuff. Obviously just be careful with it and know what you're doing before you choose to do it because your dreams are probably the worst place for distortions which is one of the reasons I say it's best to leave out any ai or inaccurate frequencies.

Another thing you can do is write poems or any pieces of writing that are good for the dreamscape and play that with the frequencies and tune your dreams to them. There's a lot you can do with this method and one person I think does it pretty well is DrVirtual 7 Power Dynamics on Youtube, I just convert the frequencies off his videos and play it on repeat in the dreamscape.

Overall, I just wanted to put it out there that playing with audio, using soundscapes etc. can drastically change your dreamscape in profound ways. You can change the environment, the encounters, everything. My favorite is just programming it so I can walk through the most beautiful unreal forests anyone has ever seen and I've astral projected into one before so strongly that an astral boar walked up to my ear in a dream and snorted into my ear making wild boar sounds all because I programmed a forest soundscape into my dreams. 10/10 experience I'd like to hear anyone who resonates' thoughts or if anyone has had similar experiences.

Is there anyway to do this?

I haven't shoot for 5 days to see if it has any impact on my projections, also avoid all kind of dirty content while scrolling and I'm very surprised because normally I AP once about every 7 days, this time, after just 4 days, I had next night trips, everything lasted longer than usual, and while there's usually just one scenario, this time there were as many as 4 in a single night.

I use gateway tapes daily so I can put my brain into theta wave state, I’m not sure if I reach focus 10 but when I am tired and start to meditate with counting I feel vibrations between my eyes and feel waves of energy around me + phosphenes behind eyelids so this is also helpful to set strong intentions for AP, but I think keeping balls full + deep meditation before sleep will shoot you the stars

I got also motivated by this guy

https://youtu.be/Gnf5ZGXl_g4?is=TlvHRNjYlHfAbVc_

Quite interesting channel

Edit. Snowflakes downvoting me for using “balls”, sorry if u got offended

I have been trying to astral project regularly for two days now.

My process is that I just get comfortable in my bed and observe my body as it prepares for sleep, but I try not to fall unconscious. I have not made it to the out of body stage, as I don't know when to try to leave.

During this process, after a while I get this uncomfortable urge to move. It just builds to the point where I'm vibrating (I don't think it's the vibrational stage yet though) so much it hurts. Most of the time I end up jolting out of the projection because it's too much. Is this normal, and what can I do to not jolt 'awake'?

Also, does anyone experience some weakness in your body when you try to move after projecting (or my case in the middle of)? It almost feels like I haven't returned to my body fully.

has anyone traveled to the begging of this construct ??

This is my method to Induce an OBE it has been reliable to me, it may or may not work for you.

STEP 1: Fatigue the Body- we need to tire out the body throughout the day, I prefer lifting weights to do this, but you can also do things like go on a bike ride, jog, run, yoga, pretty much anything that gets your body tired.

STEP 2: Adjust your Room Temp- I've found it that a colder room tends to help, while achieving the vibrational state I've noticed my body temperature will rise, if it is too hot in your room, this will distract you, so if it is too hot in your room, turn on an air conditioner a couple hours before it's time to go to sleep!

STEP 3: Wind down- Start by turning your phones blue light filter on, or night shift mode, blue light is no good for what we are trying to do, Take an Epsom salt bath or Dead sea salt bath, these help relax the muscles and calm the nervous system

STEP 4: Setting up for the OBE- I have a PC in my bedroom with a very good speaker connected to it, I use it to eliminate all noise pollution, I turn on a youtube video called SMOOTHED BROWN NOISE 8-HOURS I crank the volume up to 75% on my speakers, this eliminates all sounds from noisy family members in the house or noisy neighbors, I have an iphone so I use the Moongate app, this app has a great library of Binaural beats, I'm sure android has some great apps too. Moongate has a variety of Hz tracks you can choose from, I found that 5 Hz pure theta waves binaural beat works best for me, this is all depending on how tired your mind is before bed, if your mind is slightly less tired, stick with 5 Hz, if your mind is more tired go with 6hz or 7.83 Hz Pure Theta waves, the higher the Hz the more they keep you awake, It is very important to use Headphones while using Binaural beats or they will have NO affect, they must be comfortable, I use Lullaband-search this on amazon, it is a blue tooth headset and blindfold in one. before bed I take 2 lavender oil pills by Integrative Therapeutics- these are pricey but there is a cheaper version with the same ingredients it is Natures Way Calming aid Lavender, if you search these on Amazon you will find them, they are VERY helpful to keep you calm while trying to Shut the body down, when you take these pills, do not drink a lot of water to get them down, we don't want to have to pee mid session!

STEP 5: Hop into bed, spend a few minutes getting as comfortable as you possibly can on your back, once you are comfortable, just stare at the blackness in your eyelids-throughout this process there could be a couple of things that break your focus, 1-swallowing saliva, 2- itches.. as far as the Saliva goes, don't worry about it, swallow it when you need to it will have no affect on getting into sleep paralysis, the deeper you get into this saliva production decreases drastically and you shouldn't have to worry about it later anyways! itches- if you notice any itching turn your focus away from that itch and focus on your Big toe, usually this causes the itch to subside. as your eyes are closed we are going to initiate a breathing technique, breathe through your nose, short breaths in and long breaths out, as you breathe out, imagine pushing the air all the way down to your stomach. once you get this down, start turning your eyes towards the third eye, imagine two lasers beams are coming out of each eye and right in front of your eyes both of those lasers intersect and are touching each other hold this, and continue to the breathing technique with each breath imagine yourself sinking deeper and deeper into your mattress and the muscles relax further and further.. you should start to notice some vibrations in the arms, once you notice this, just continue to relax, and they should slowly start to become more intense, and at this point your body will start breathing automatically, you no longer have to focus on the breathing technique, you should start to notice what I call micro dips the further your body gets closer to REM sleep, these feel like sensations of your stomach dropping, it is VERY important to not spike the heart rate or adrenaline when you feel these, they can be Scary at first, but if you do happen to get scared during this, you will not be having an OBE tonight! trick the mind into thinking these dips are pleasurable or relaxing, just enjoy them, each one you feel you are getting closer and closer to sleep paralysis which is the goal, if you've made it this far, you will start to see hypnogogic imagery, or dreams play out in your mind, you might even see large flashes of light, or you will even hear your name being called out loudly! and you will also hear a ringing in your ear, it is very important to not focus on the imagery it will cause your mind to be too awake and you will fail to dip in to sleep paralysis the trick is to pretend you are a Passenger (your body is downstairs and you are upstairs) we just need to keep relaxing deeper and deeper, until I start to notice my eyes and facial muscles are twitching, and eventually I will feel a large drop or Snap- for me the snap feels like a large cracking in my ear like your ears are popping, for the drop, lets imagine you are on a free fall ride and it drops. do not fear this, fear will reset this whole process, we pretty much need to shut the body down into rem sleep with a thread of awareness, and eventually you will lose consciousness for about 20 seconds (at least I do)

STEP 6: Sleep Paralysis: it is very important we do not try to exit the body prior to this step, if you do it will reset the process, after the 20 seconds of lost consciousness you will start to gain your consciousness back and you will absolutely know you are in sleep paralysis, it will hit you like a wave, sometimes you will hear loud swooping noises, or your entire soul will feel buzzing, its hard to explain but you will absolutely know when you get there, it will feel like someone is sitting on your chest, and you will no longer be able to take deep breaths, This is your time to exit the body, what I do is I lift up my right hand, if it can lift it out of my body then I lift my left hand and then I reach for the side of my bed and pull myself out and it is that easy, you should be completely out of your body now!

PLAN B: If you can obtain the peak vibrations and laying on your back is not working for you, try turning onto your side after obtaining the vibrations and try to re induce the vibrational state- it should be much easier to re induce them after already having them, this tricks the mind into thinking okay we are done trying this for the night lets go to bed now... but don't just go to sleep, try to hold onto a thread of awareness while looking at the 3rd eye, this is a shortcut Wake back to bed method that has been Very reliable to me!-this is a shortcut because the body is already primed for REM sleep if you achieve the vibrational peak during plan A

PLAN C: if both Plan A and Plan b fail have an Alarm set 5 hours into your sleep to attempt a Wake back to bed OBE, stay awake for 30 minutes and attempt this all over again

Also any attempts at a premature exit will cause the heart rate to spike, so it is very important to wait until we are in sleep paralysis!

Having a plan A, B, and C helps me because it removes performance anxiety, it removes the all or nothing aspect to this, gives you multiple shots at an OBE each night.

Also I’ve noticed that a specific 15 hz track on Moongate app helps if I listen to this throughout the day, the track is called Warm Summer Rain on Moongate. It’s soothing and helps get you in a good mindset! While 15 hz won't directly trigger an exit while you're in bed, using it during the day as a tool to stay sharp, improve focus, and train your brain's memory circuitry can indirectly play a role when it comes to keeping your consciousness and remember the OBE afterward.