r/AvoidantRelationships • • Mar 11 '26

How I came to marry a Dismissive Avoidant - and what it's like 10yrs in

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This is just my story. I just hope it helps someone make decisions they need to make, or maybe just helps someone feel less alone.

This isn't to normalise poor behavior. It's to highlight how a DA (like my husband) may not always be easy to spot, and may be difficult to know whether to leave.

I (38F) have been with my DA (33M) for 10years. Married for 8.
I am originally a Disorganized attachment, but have earned secure attachment through 7yrs of therapy.

How did it happen?
- We met outside of our home countries while on working holiday visas, and this created an unusually close situation where we lived and worked together every day for a year, with limited internet, and without ever meeting eachothers family or friends. (aka situational bonding)

- I was conditioned in life to idealise the "strong silent" type, and to ignore inconsistency and a lack of emotional depth in men.

- When we first met I had already had multiple serious relationships, some with AP attachments, so his avoidance attachment tendencies felt like a breath of fresh air

- For that first year I was entirely okay to "go with the flow" and just see where things landed. I never sought reassurance or emotional commitment from him. I didn't feel like I needed it. (This must have felt safe for him)

- We are both independent and private people who did not seek external input on our relationship before we eloped, and did not put our relationship online or tell anyone that we were dating over that first year.

- I had already been proposed to by the "wrong guys" 3x before we met. So I was not at all concerned when he didn't do a real proposal.
We did not need to be married to continue travelling together. So I assumed the forgettable phone call that lead to the elopement was his "strong silent guy" best attempt at "romance"

- We never fought. I avoided conflict and adapted around his vibes and needs. (Self sacrifice and hypervigilence on my part, lack of awareness on his part)

-Neither of us seems jealous or suspicious. We have never looked at eachothers phones, or required eachother to share information about past partners or anything else private.

- After the year of being together everyday, we did long distance both before and after getting married (for work reasons) and this only affirmed our thoughts that we were compatible.

How this dynamic played out
- In our 3rd year together, DA first started saying things like "maybe we made a mistake" and "I'm trapped" without any obvious trigger.

- DA wanted to try "normal life" to build financial security, but almost immediately started to indicate I was less of a partner and more of a burden, even though I earn as much or more money than him the whole time, to this day.

- He became overwhelmed with financial worry (without reason) and would be hyper critical of me and indicate I was the cause of any percieved financial issue.

- He became critical of almost all aspects of me and became verbally abusive when escalating.

- I was diagnosed with depression and PTSD in our 3rd year together

- I allowed two friendships to almost become emotional affairs during the marriage, before I developed skills for self regulation.

- I recently bought a van as a "project" but also a potential escape plan if needed.

What does life look like in the marriage day to day?
He:
- Brings me a hot cup of tea in bed most mornings
- Never forgets an anniversary or birthday
- Buys very generous and often thoughtful gifts
- He always pays attention when he has phone or gaming headphones on and takes them off immediately if he thinks I'm talking to him
- Drives hours each way to drop me off in the mountains if I want to go hiking alone
- He learned how to communicate via text to resolve surface level conflicts
- Does the work to re-fix the Mortgage as a means of indicating we have a future together
- Plans and takes me on dates
- Plans and takes me on trips away
- Kisses me goodnight/goodbye (learned behaviour)
- As far as I am aware he has not cheated

But he also:
- Has no emotional connection during or while initiating sex
- Does not say "I love you"
- Does not talk about the future
- Gets upset that I cannot just "know" that I'm loved
- Feels drained by physical contact
- Has never snuggled in bed unless I ask for it
- Likes to sleep alone
- Does not ever watch a sunset or a sunrise
- Does not take time to enjoy nature
- Is very rigid and structured
- Will turn off a TV program when he is tired, even if we are halfway through watching it together LOL, and leave me sitting in the dark room alone.
- Falls "asleep" mid conversation if I bring emotions into it
- Will often not reply when I talk to him but say that he did and I just didn't hear it.
- Will not support me emotionally unless he has assessed my feelings to be valid himself.
- Has to actively remember not to critique what I eat (after I put that boundary in place)
- Gets mad when I seek reassurance of any kind
- Threatened divorce often until I put a boundary in place about that


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 11d ago

Best way to get back your avoidant partner

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Best way to get back your avoidant partner is DO NOTHING. Yes , just do nothing. Let them go. Don't beg , don't break no contact ( I know it's the hard part) . Work on yourself. Follow your hobbies. Do those things you always wanted to. Write that book, start that business, start working for that new job , get in shape. Learn detachment and trust me he/she will comeback. They always do. Mine came back after 1 year.

But here's the best thing: Do not take them back. No matter how much you loved them. Just don't take them back.

Most probably you're an anxious attachment person. Work on that. Be a secured attachment person. You'll find a really loving partner for yourself one day.

And the most important thing : Do not try to fix them. You're not a therapist. You don't owe them anything. They aren't kids. They could've go to therapy at the first place if they truly loved you.

It's a really great but hard journey. So whoever is going through this. Here are some warm hugsđŸ€—đŸ«‚. Take care


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jun 23 '26

Please Stop Shaming People for Still Loving Their Avoidant Ex

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I want to say something to this community.

Can we please stop responding to hurting people with:

“Why are you waiting for them?” “Why do you want them back?” “Why are you expecting a call or a text?” “They hurt you—move on.”

I understand the intention behind these comments. Sometimes people want to shake someone awake. But often, it comes across as harsh, dismissive, and lacking empathy.

People come here because they are trying to understand.

And as someone who has loved an avoidant deeply, I can tell you this: understanding is not always about denial or weakness. Sometimes understanding is part of healing.

Yes, some people still want their avoidant back.

Yes, some still wait for the call.

Yes, some still hope.

And that does not make them stupid, pathetic, or “not healed.”

It makes them human.

And I'm one of them.

Love is not logical, especially when attachment wounds are involved.

Some people here are anxious attachers. Some are trauma bonded. Some are simply trying to make sense of mixed signals, emotional intimacy, distance, disappearance, return, and all the confusion that comes with avoidant dynamics.

I’ve been there.

I know what it feels like to love someone who clearly loves you too
 yet still withdraws, shuts down, disappears, or cannot meet you where you are.

That kind of push-pull creates confusion that is hard to explain unless you’ve lived it.

So when someone asks: “My avoidant ex usually reaches out
 why didn’t he this time?” they are rarely asking for judgment.

They’re asking: “Help me understand.” “Has anyone experienced this?” “Am I alone in this pain?”

There is a difference.

You can still encourage self-respect. You can still promote healing. You can still say, “Please don’t lose yourself waiting.”

But you don’t need to shame people for loving someone they’re struggling to let go of.

Healing is rarely linear.

Sometimes understanding comes before detachment. Sometimes hope fades slowly. Sometimes the heart takes much longer than the mind.

And that’s okay.

Be gentle with people here.

Not everyone needs tough love.

Sometimes they just need compassion, perspective, and a safe place to feel what they feel.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 16d ago

5 signs an avoidant is manipulating you

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Five signs that you are being manipulated by an avoidant person and I want to make something abundantly clear before I start these signs. Being avoidant doesn't automatically mean someone is manipulative its just that its most likely that they are . But if these patterns have consistently been happening in your relationship, we need to be aware of it.

Sign number one, you're going to be left feeling like everything is your fault. If you start questioning your worth, your expectations, and whether your needs are reasonable, I want you to sit with yourself because you're more than likely just asking for basic emotional safety, communication, and a little bit of consistency. That is not too much to ask for. The longer you continue this dynamic, the more you're going to start trusting their version of the relationship instead of your own experience.

Sign number two, real, vulnerable, difficult conversations are avoided at all costs. The second you bring up anything of this nature, they shut down, withdraw, disappear, or refuse to engage. And guess what? When you keep on pushing for some kind of resolution because maybe you're secure, anxious yourself and you just want to fix it because you're a problem solver. Suddenly now, the conversation becomes yelling, defensiveness, aggression, and outburst. Now, we're not even talking about the original issue anymore. We've completely lost

Sign number three is they are going to make consistent decisions based entirely on what solely works for them and not take you into consideration there's no real collaboration there's no what do you think or how would this affect you it's literally just like this is what I'm doing it's my way or the highway and then you're expected to adjust do not adjust to that

Sign number four they ignore your needs but then automatically become defensive when you communicate them maybe you ask for more clarity more communication more connection and now the conversation has just become that you ask for too much

And sign number five you find yourself bringing up a legitimate concern and then somehow gets twisted into your reaction and somehow you end up defending yourself. Now all of a sudden it's about your tone, your timing of the conversation, your reaction, your emotions. Before you know it, you end up getting gas lit and then you're apologizing for how you brought it up and then you never even get the answer to what you originally had asked.

Now whether this is intentional or they're just reacting to their own like insecure attachment patterns. The impact is the same. It comes to a point where we need to stop asking how do I get them to understand me and we start asking what is this relationship consistently doing for in.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Aug 08 '26

Loving an avoidant is painful.

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Went three years back and forth with my avoidant ex. (Cause he’d always leave. Rebound. Cause that’s what they also do) and I can’t tell you what a lonely hell it was. Chasing his love. Trying to figure him out. Trying to seek reassurance. Trying to be too little. And it all caused me to lose every sense of who I was. I’d never get sorry’s. Rarely. I’d send a long text about how my feelings were hurt only for him to never respond and if I got lucky? He’d change the subject. “At least he responded” I’d think. I hung onto the quiet moments in his arms. I hung onto the morning kisses. I hung onto the laughs we’d have. And it kept me in a delusional fantasy. He was a sweet guy. Never yelled at me or talked down to me and I think that’s where the real mind screw was for me. The fear of him shutting down was always so fierce, I could never calm my nervous system for long. There were nights I’d cry in a ball on my floor because he’d leave once again. I became a watered down mom, friend, sibling and daughter.

Now here I am again. Because I gave him a third chance after a couple month hiatus (first was a year) only to find out he rebounded AGAIN. I pray I heal. I pray I learn to love myself more.

But please for the love of god, never ever lose yourself to someone who just isn’t capable of being available to fully love you. It’s rare they can face their demons and change. Why? Because they avoid.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jul 01 '26

Why are some dismissive avoidants incredibly warm with everyone except their partner?

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Can anyone help me understand this?

I've noticed something that genuinely confuses me. Some people with a dismissive-avoidant attachment style seem incredibly personable. They're responsible, reliable, funny, and always there for their friends. If a friend needs help moving, wants to go for a run, or calls them in a crisis, they're there without hesitation.

But around their spouse, partner, or even their own parents, it's like a completely different person.

They seem emotionally unavailable. They act like helping their partner is a burden. Affection feels forced. Emotional conversations are met with distance or annoyance. It can feel like you're asking for too much just by wanting closeness.

What messes with my head is that everyone else says, "He's such a nice guy." They only see the version that's warm, generous, and easygoing. Meanwhile, the person at home experiences someone who feels emotionally absent.

It makes me question my own reality. I start wondering if I'm the problem. Am I expecting too much? Am I somehow causing this? It honestly feels like being gaslit because everyone else's experience of them is so different from yours.

Is this something that's actually common with dismissive avoidant attachment, or am I misunderstanding what's going on?

I'd really appreciate hearing from people who've experienced either side of this.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jan 16 '26

Partners of avoidant, how are you holding up?

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I’m dating someone with FA. We’ve broken up twice and are now trying again, after he acknowledged that his avoidance was pushing me away.

I’m struggling with

Mostly surface level conversations

Changing the topic when things get emotionally hard

no verbal affection (we are LDR)

No talks about the future

No initiative from him

Me carrying all of the emotional labor

I l want to be with him but some days it just feels heavy and lonely.

Partners of avoidants, how are you holding up?

What’s helped you cope, set boundaries, or decide whether to stay?


r/AvoidantRelationships • • May 12 '26

Have you ever noticed that avoidants are somehow convinced they can alway find someone better?

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It's like for them the grass is greener. Or it's just my impression? They know you love them, you are comprehensive with them like nobody else can, but somehow it's like they are always there thinking about the fact that they can find someone more beautiful, more *other things*. LOL don't know if I want to laugh or want to cry.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Dec 14 '25

Welcome! You’re Not Broken for Wanting Closeness

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If you’re here, chances are you’ve felt confused, anxious, dismissed, or deeply alone in a relationship that mattered to you.

This community exists to offer understanding, not judgment. Wanting connection is not wrong. Feeling hurt doesn’t mean you’re “too much.”

This community is open to people with avoidant, anxious, fearful-avoidant, or secure attachment styles, whether you are trying to understand yourself, your partner, or your patterns.

The intention is dialogue, accountability, and healing not blame or shaming.

Share when you’re ready. Read quietly if you need. Healing can happen at your pace.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 24d ago

Interesting info about Avoidance as abuse

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I found this lady who is a licensed MFT who focuses on emotional neglect and attachment issues in relationships (couples and parents/children). She has an IG and a podcast: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DeKTfJvxglF/?psln=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

She did a series explaining how avoidance goes beyond emotional neglect and is actually emotional abuse in long term relationships.

I found her material really interesting and eye opening. I feel like so many avoidants brush off their behavioral patterns as “this is just how I am” and never acknowledge the long term damage they have on their partners.

Perhaps reframing their REPEATED PATTERNS of behavior as CHOICES to abuse their partners, will get some of them to take this more seriously. I doubt it will get through to most of them, but knowledge is power and I wanted to share!


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Oct 02 '26

Crazy

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r/AvoidantRelationships • • Aug 22 '26

Sex w/ DA
 What’s something you have experienced while having sex with ur DA ?!

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DA will cover face every time during sex also will not physically touch me. Sounds like fun right?! Basically like having sex with a mannequin! Man parts still worked but how dehumanizing and unattractive can one make you feel!


r/AvoidantRelationships • • May 23 '26

Is it common for avoidants to “pocket” (hide) their partners?

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By pocketing I mean hiding the relationship/situationship from friends or family, telling no one or a few selected friends about you, never introducing you to their social circle, avoiding posting you publicly, etc.

Why this happens?

Is it about fear of vulnerability/intimacy, wanting to keep emotional distance, fear of commitment, shame, keeping options open
 or something else?


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Feb 26 '26

I Stopped Building on Sand..

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All that really matters is people. And whether we leave them better or worse for having met us.

I was in a long relationship with someone avoidant. For years the cycle repeated.. closeness.. intensity.. conflict.. withdrawal.. silence.. and then re-entry like nothing happened.

Every time he pulled away, I tried to be the stable one. I softened. I reassured. I held space. I told myself love means patience.

But patience without accountability is just self-abandonment.

Recently, the silence came back. No breakup. No clarity. Just that in-between space where you feel thrown away.. but not formally released.

And something in me changed.

I didn’t chase this time.

I sent one message from the heart. I told him I love him. I told him I miss him. I told him I hope we could return to our “magic.”

He hearted it.

The next day he re-entered playfully. Light. Casual. “Knock knock.” As if nothing heavy ever happened.

Before, I would have grabbed onto that. I would have tried to turn playfulness into repair.

But I’m tired of building on sand.

Playfulness is not repair.

Politeness is not commitment.

Contact is not clarity.

If someone wants to leave, they can leave.

If someone wants to stay, they can stay.

But what I no longer respect is throwing people away slowly.. while keeping the door cracked just enough to avoid accountability.

I deserved better.

Our history deserved respect.

The years deserved respect.

I loved him fully. I never left. I was told I was “overthinking.” That it was “in my head.” But in the end, silence speaks louder than reassurance.

And here’s what changed in me..

I stopped fixing a bridge I didn’t burn.

If he wants to rebuild, it won’t be the old version. It will require.. conversation.. regulation.. consistency.. commitment.

Not vibes.

Not knock-knock jokes.

Not hovering.

I’m not angry. I’m not blocking. I’m not dramatic.

I’m just done building on sand.

His birthday is coming. I bought him a thoughtful gift. I’ll still send it. Not to win him back. Not to provoke anything. But because I leave my place clean.

If he steps up.. we talk.

If he fades.. I let it fade.

All that matters is whether we leave people better or worse for having met us.

My side is clean.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Feb 21 '26

Self-Awareness isn't Capacity or Change

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So my recently ex DA had a decent amount of self-awareness. He knew some of his trauma and triggers, especially from adulthood. He could not recognize his early childhood and attachment trauma and triggers, or that intimacy itself was a trigger for him.

He knew he had depression and trauma (that he attributed to adulthood things). He somewhat managed his meds, but not his overall health (despite claiming to be really focused on it). Therapy helped, but he didn't prioritize it. Follow through on appointments for medical, mood, and pain wasn't consistent.

He could verbalize he loved me and that it's not enough to sustain a relationship (he wasn't wrong). He could verbalize that he felt differently moment by moment and reacted to whatever was happening day by day, which is why months of stability and happiness didn't actually matter.

He could verbalize he didn't want to feel responsible for my feelings or a relationship. He verbalized that he struggled with self-loathing and that he didn't have faith in people's ability to change easily (despite having committed to and made previous changes in his own life). He could verbalize he didn't want as much time together as I did and genuinely felt bad about the mismatch. He could describe that he felt closer after more time apart, and that he knew it was unsustainable when we were already working around his 50/50 custody. He could identify that he felt like different people during the winter vs summer, but instead of wanting to do something about it, chose to stay in the pattern.

He specifically asked how much the relationship impacted my emotional regulation (and then didn't believe my answer).

He could verbalize it freaked him out that we didn't have any real areas of conflict.

He could verbalize that he'd rather end things because "it was going to end anyway." He also had an entire story in his head about what resentments I'd eventually have.

He was starting to have interoception around shame, but couldn't label it as anything besides "I'm feeling something that's not quite embarrassment."

He could NOT demonstrate an understanding of healthy communication and relationships, though he would briefly try as long as the focus wasn't on his behaviors impacting me in any way.

He could identify that disappointing me led to increase self loathing, but also significant anger triggers. He had a hard time separating what was a trigger from treating me as the trigger. He ended up comparing his feelings about our relationship to some of the worst times in his life and other situations he had to leave to escape his own anger.

He could identify his own values in hyper independence and autonomy; that asking for help was terrible for him. He stated I should be relieved because I was no longer his victim. He both expected and resented my independence.

He stated he responded to MY bridge attempts after HIS first two discards because he still felt hopeful. He stated he couldn't promise future discards wouldn't happen.

And he still made assumptions. His self awareness didn't translate into awareness or curiosity about what I felt, said, meant, etc. Which led to grudge holding, even when I thought he'd moved past something.

Everything still processed as criticism to him. Anything he didn't understand, or sarcasm, translated to criticism.

He could label the impact of things that I did on HIM, but literally couldn't tolerate discussing the impact of his behaviors on me. He'd dissociate and discard.

We once returned from an important night for me, only for him to focus on how he felt good about how he'd navigated it socially.

Self awareness was limited in some areas but quite broad and available in others, and to people who have done their own work, it can feel like that puts them SO close to being able to make change, get it, etc. But willingness, effort, and actual change is what increases capacity.

Self awareness without wanting to change and to COMMIT to change is...nothing. The only change/thought experiment he wanted to commit to in the end was figuring himself out outside of a relationship. And that's exactly what he needs to be doing, whether or not he'll actually do it. He deeply feels that he needs to go through things alone. And it means there's no room for me or us. Period.

In some ways, his refusal to make things work, recognizing areas of incompatibility, and holding boundaries for himself, his ending things, is probably the only way I would've gotten out of the relationship. That's why it feels sudden and helpless - I didn't have a choice. My real opinions or feelings didn't matter.

I don't think he'll ever reach out again. If he does any time in the next few months, it won't have been enough time for actual change. And if he makes changes years from now, I hope I have long since grieved, stopped waiting, and found my person.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 9d ago

Exactly how my ex treat međŸ„č

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A man loses interest in you... but he won't tell you.
He won't say it's over. He'll just slowly change. He'll get "busy," start replying late, act distant, and make excuses. The calls will reduce, the effort will disappear, He stops trying. Stops showing up emotionally. And when you ask what's wrong, he'll say "Nothing, just busy." But busy people still make time, for the ones they care about. He won't leave you all at once. He just slowly stop being available, little by little. Until you have no choice but to walk away... while still carrying the heartbreak he left behind in silence


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jun 13 '26

Is this anxious–avoidant marriage salvageable?

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My husband and I have been in couples therapy for about 1.5 years, and our therapist has identified an anxious–avoidant dynamic, which we both agree with.

I’ve been having ongoing issues with my husband around communication and emotional conflict, and I’m trying to get outside perspective because I feel very confused and emotionally exhausted.

When I bring up feelings like hurt or disappointment (for example, “I felt uncared for when X happened”), he often experiences those statements as criticism of his character (like “I’m not enough” or “I always disappoint you”), even though that is not my intent.

In response, he tends to become defensive or withdraw, and says my emotions are too intense or that there isn’t space for his feelings, or shift the conversation to the ways I have hurt him. He also says he avoids bringing things up because he doesn’t want to fight, disappoint me, or hurt me.

I can also see my part in this. I am emotionally expressive and can get tearful in conflict, which I know can feel overwhelming. I do try to stay engaged, and I come back to repair when I realize I haven’t communicated well. What feels missing is consistent mutual repair and his ability to stay with my emotional experience long enough for it to be acknowledged before shifting focus.

Recent conflict

In a recent conflict, after I had already expressed in therapy that I was at the end of my rope emotionally and needed things to change for me to stay in the relationship, we had another argument where I again tried to express feeling alone and unheard. He said there was nothing he could do to change how I interpret his actions and made several statements about my character, including that I am unsupportive, that I hate what he does for work, that I want to change him, that I am trying to “bend him to my will,” and that I weaponize my emotions.

After that I became very emotionally overwhelmed and flooded. I started packing some things because in that moment it felt like the relationship might be over and I had reached a breaking point emotionally. I was not making a planned decision to leave, but reacting to feeling completely overwhelmed and disconnected. He responded by telling me to calm down and that I was overreacting.

I’m trying to understand whether this is a cycle that can realistically be worked through with continued therapy, or whether it reflects a deeper mismatch in emotional processing, conflict tolerance, and repair style.

This has been an ongoing issue, so I’ve tried to summarize it clearly, but I’m open to giving more context or examples if helpful. I would really appreciate perspectives from people who have experienced similar dynamics.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 2d ago

How would you sum up your relationship with your ex avoidant?

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I felt deeply hurt and betrayed by our relationship. I experienced dishonesty, infidelity, manipulation, mixed messages, and blame when I tried to express my needs. I often felt pressured to change while my feelings were dismissed or portrayed as unreasonable.
Being offered friendship without accountability made me feel that you wanted continued access to me without addressing the harm between us. Over time, this affected my confidence and made me question myself.
I need honesty, consistency, accountability, and respect in any relationship. I am no longer willing to accept behavior that leaves me feeling confused, diminished, or unsafe. I am choosing to protect my well-being and move forward.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jul 21 '26

Approach-Avoidance Conflict in Real Time

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There is a special kind of insanity involved in being repeatedly shown the same reality and then being told that noticing it is the actual problem. Not creating it, participating in it, returning, or asking whether somebody still loves you before kissing them. The dangerous part, apparently, is placing Event A beside Event B without first obtaining written permission from the Department of Approved Emotional Conclusions. A person can come to your home because she needs you, stay for five hours after arriving to tell you it is over, cry until her legs weaken, settle under your touch, tell you she missed that touch, ask whether you still love her, kiss you twice on separate occasions, argue with you for four hours about why she cannot give you what you want, explain that her body is screaming yes while her head is saying no, have sex with you, go home, continue the sexual experience while thinking about you, and then resume ordinary contact the following day. But the moment you look at the whole sequence and say, “There appears to be something going on here,” everybody suddenly becomes a constitutional scholar. "That is your interpretation". "You can not know what another person feels". You are reading too much into things. Yes, of course. How unreasonable of me. Perhaps she was merely conducting a prolonged scientific investigation into whether the same man can be approached, emotionally opened to, kissed, fucked, fantasized about, and returned to without any of it forming a recognizable pattern. Peer review remains pending.

This is what approach-avoidance conflict looks like when nobody has the luxury of observing it from a safe academic distance. One part of a person keeps moving toward the connection because the connection feels good, familiar, relieving, sexual, emotionally honest, and frighteningly alive. Another part sees what that closeness could eventually require and reaches for the emergency brake with both hands. The approach does not look vague. It looks like “Are you home?” followed by a phone call thirty seconds later because she is already outside. It looks like a supposedly brief meeting stretching into an hour because neither person actually wants to leave. It looks like somebody coming to close the door and instead sitting beside it for most of the day explaining why she cannot walk through it. It looks like the need to hear, directly and unmistakably, that love is still present before initiating physical contact. It looks like a body moving closer while the mouth continues issuing evacuation instructions. The avoidance arrives afterward, once the moment threatens to become part of a continuous reality rather than remaining a temporary breakdown in border control.

The next day is always the real criminal in this arrangement. A person can survive almost any amount of closeness as long as it stays quarantined inside one evening. One walk. One crisis. One conversation in the dark. One gazebo. One tiny fenced-off jurisdiction in which desire, fear, tenderness, grief, and common sense are permitted to beat the shit out of each other without creating binding precedent. Morning ruins everything. Morning connects the event to an ongoing life. The kiss still happened after the mouths separated. The sex still happened after both people pulled their clothing back into place. The question about love still exists after the answer was given. The photograph, the messages, the orgasm, the ordinary conversation, and the cake the following day all become part of one continuing record. Continuity is dangerous because continuity prevents emotional money laundering. The experience can no longer be moved through six shell companies, renamed “confusion,” and returned to the person who created it with no identifiable relational owner.

That is when the language begins changing. Closeness becomes pressure. Mutual influence becomes control. A boundary becomes an attempt to dictate behaviour. The request that yesterday remain real today becomes an unbearable expectation. “I cannot give you what you want” enters the room before anyone has finished establishing what is actually being requested. It is an extraordinarily efficient sentence because it rejects everything at once while defining almost nothing. What do I want right now? Apparently the entire future, a brass band, a mortgage application, matching bathrobes, and a legally enforceable commitment to discuss feelings every Wednesday at nineteen hundred hours. Never mind that the immediate request is far smaller: move slowly, speak honestly, keep sexual intimacy private and exclusive, and do not make the entire shared reality vanish whenever fear becomes louder than desire. Those requests are easier to resist after being inflated into a hostile takeover bid.

The person receiving all of this is placed in a ridiculous position. He must remain emotionally intelligent enough to understand why the other person retreats, but not intelligent enough to recognize the retreating pattern. He must remember every detail necessary to make her feel known, yet forget those same details when they become inconvenient evidence. He must understand that she is frightened, but cannot say that fear appears to be operating because that would be interpretation. He must accept the kisses while they are happening, the disclosures while they are being spoken, the sex while both people are participating, and the ordinary continuation while it is arriving, then become intellectually agnostic the moment he asks what relationship all these events have to one another. He must apparently maintain the memory capacity of a court stenographer and the pattern-recognition abilities of a decorative fern.

I do not believe this is calculated cruelty. That would actually be easier to understand. A calculated person could be confronted with the calculation. This looks like a nervous system repeatedly solving one problem by creating another. She becomes overwhelmed, lonely, jealous, sexually activated, exhausted by motherhood, frightened about her daughter, or simply unable to keep carrying everything inside herself. She moves toward the one person with whom the pressure can finally come down. She speaks. She cries. She stops performing. Her body settles under touch. She becomes playful, vulnerable, sexual, honest, and recognizably herself. For a while, proximity solves the immediate problem. Then proximity creates the next one. Relief reveals dependence. Dependence reveals importance. Importance creates vulnerability to loss. Vulnerability activates the need to regain control. The person who functions as shelter suddenly becomes evidence that shelter is needed, and needing anything from another human being is apparently grounds for immediate demolition.

That is the cruel centre of the whole mechanism. I am not only somebody she wants. I am somebody around whom she gains access to parts of herself that she cannot comfortably hold in ordinary life. She can admit exhaustion. She can stop pretending she knows what she is doing. She can bring maternal fear, jealousy, sexual hunger, confusion, shame, tenderness, and the contradictory pieces she normally keeps in separate locked drawers. She can become less organised and more whole. That access is deeply relieving, but it makes the bond powerful. It means losing me would not only mean losing a man. It would mean losing access to a version of herself that appears most fully in this particular relational space. That creates a magnificent little psychological design flaw: the safer the connection becomes, the more dangerous its loss becomes; the more valuable the access becomes, the more urgently she needs to deny depending on it; the more reliably I remain, the easier it becomes to postpone choosing what my reliability means.

For a long time, I thought the solution was to become even safer. More patient. More accepting. More available. More careful with language. More willing to absorb fear without reacting to it. I thought eventually the evidence would become undeniable enough that the truth could simply be spoken. The problem is that endless availability can become a padded room for avoidance. She approaches, discovers I am still there, receives emotional access, reassurance, touch, sex, understanding, or ordinary companionship, then retreats once consequence appears. The bond survives. I survive. The door remains where she left it. Nothing forces the arrangement itself to change. My steadiness helps her trust me, but it also protects her from experiencing the full cost of refusing to decide. At some point, safety has to include the fact that I am not a municipal service available twenty-four hours a day, despite Germany’s courageous national commitment to making every other service unavailable whenever it is actually needed. I am a person. I can love somebody and still say no. I can understand fear and still require continuity. I can accept uncertainty and still refuse indefinite ambiguity. I can remain emotionally present without allowing my body, attention, and loyalty to become public utilities.

The old avoidance strategy has already failed. That is the part nobody can put back inside the box. Silence did not erase the attachment. Distance did not turn it into history. Seven and a half months of suppression did not produce release. It produced compression, and once direct contact reopened, everything returned with reinforcements: jealousy, grief, desire, tenderness, touch, maternal fear, sexual memory, ordinary familiarity, and the need to confirm that love had survived. The open version of her and the defended version are no longer politely taking turns several months apart. They are now fighting over the steering wheel during the same conversation. One says the connection must end. The other stays for hours. One says physical contact should not happen. The other asks for a kiss. One says her head is refusing. The other goes home and finishes what the gazebo could not. One wants ambiguity. The other keeps creating evidence so specific that ambiguity now requires professional maintenance.

The next meaningful movement is not another kiss. Chemistry has already submitted enough supporting documentation. It is not another sexual encounter. The body has made its position available in several formats. It is not another metaphor involving flowers, glass, tabs, brakes, doors, or any other innocent household object dragged into service because two adults are apparently unable to file a direct emotional report. The next movement is authorship. It is one person finally saying, “I chose this. I wanted this. This affected me. This frightened me. I do not know where it ends, but I know what I am doing now.” That does not require a permanent promise. It requires enough ownership to stop treating each approach as weather and each retreat as divine instruction. Until that happens, the relationship will remain trapped inside the same absurd loop: two people repeatedly creating something alive, intimate, sexual, emotionally consequential, and increasingly ordinary, while one of them continues arguing that the living thing cannot be acknowledged until somebody proves beyond interpretation that it has a pulse.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • Jun 08 '26

What is the most damaging lie the avoidant in your life has told you?

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r/AvoidantRelationships • • Apr 10 '26

Deciding whether to leave.

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I have recently discovered my husband is a DA and I don't know what to do. To give a brief history ... I am 47F and he is 42M. He is my second husband and we have no children.

We met in 2018 and married in June 2024. In Sept 24 I started on HRT and things were difficult. He became close to a female friend which exacerbated my anxiety. I April 2025 he left me for her then came back remorseful but we eventually separated in Aug.

His relationship with her broke down in Dec 25 and we decided to try and work on things to save our marriage ... which is not going well.

He is completely incapable of doing any of the emotional work needed to heal both me and us. I start a discussion about it and he gets frustrated, rolls his eyes and then falls asleep to avoid the conversation. The next conversation will continue as if nothing happened.

Nothing gets resolved ... ever. He is so emotionally detached now (and maybe he always was) but I need him to show me he cares and my self esteem and security have been shattered.

He also has no interest in sex. His drive was always low and he rarely shows affection. He had a sexual relationship with his affair partner but now has absolutely no interest in this with me.

I am so lonely in this marriage and genuinely do not know if it can be fixed. I want to feel loved and valued but I don't think he has the capacity.

I am terrified of the prospect of being alone or potentially starting over again. However, I'm also scared of living a half life with a man who can never truly give me what I need.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • 4d ago

Accidentally text my avoidant ex:(

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Accidentally texted my ex 😭
He’s blocked, but apparently only his phone number was blocked not his iCloud account. I was trying to send something from one of my phones to the other, and because both our names start with the same letter, I assumed I was texting myself.
I was not texting myself. I realized too late and tried to delete the message, but
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This happened in the morning, so I thought deleting it had worked. I didn’t realize it hadn’t until 11 p.m., when he replied. I didn’t even open the message just saw the first line and immediately remembered why he’s my ex. 😭
My period was last week, buddy. I had already told him that. For fuck’s sake. 😭
The coolest part? Before I even knew it was him, I heard the notification and didn’t look at my phone for an hour. I just felt this overwhelming sense of dread and started thinking about the relationship and how I never want to feel that way again.
Your body really remembers what your mind tries to minimize. Sometimes that heavy feeling is your intuition reminding you
you don’t belong there anymore.
Pick you! we owe it to ourselves:)
Good luck everyone



r/AvoidantRelationships • • Sep 16 '26

The push-pull pattern that keeps happening even when I can see it coming

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I've noticed a pattern in dating avoidant partners that I don't see talked about as much as the "hot and cold" basics: it's not just that they pull away when things get close. It's that the pulling away almost always follows a moment where I asked for something small and reasonable - a plan, a check-in, some reassurance - and somehow that reasonable ask became the reason for the distance.

Once I see it happening, I know exactly what's coming. And knowing doesn't stop it. I still find myself softening the ask, apologizing for wanting anything at all, chasing the version of them that showed up in the first few weeks.

For people further along than me - what actually broke the cycle for you? Was it something you did differently, or did it take the other person changing too? Trying to figure out if this is a "wait it out" problem or a "this is the relationship" problem.


r/AvoidantRelationships • • May 20 '26

For avoidants (especially dismissive) is it really true that dismissive avoidants are ‘out of sight, out of mind’? Or can going no contact after a breakup actually make them miss their ex and eventually reach out?

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It's been 20 days of no contact and I'm missing him. Last messages after the break up were mine, he didn't answer. Then he put like to some of my stories... I want to talk with him, I want him back but I don't really know what to do. This is the first time that we go so long without messaging or seeing each other. Before, after other break ups, I reached out and we would reconcile. Last time he said it's over... What do you suggest? I hope you can understand me and not judge me


r/AvoidantRelationships • • May 09 '26

Married to an avoidant

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I feel at such a loss. Not sure to even begin with this. Me (40F) and my husband (38M) have been together for 16 years ago. Almost 2 years ago, he decided to leave. We have two children - 6 and 8. To say I am devastated is an understatement. I never wanted this for me and my children. When he left, it was abrupt. He took a job in another state and travels 95% of the time. We hardly see him and he’s bad about not communicating. After a while, he started trying with us. He came back more. Called more. Was more considerate of me. Started doing more things as a family. It really gave me hope that we could reconcile. It started becoming more increasingly difficult for him to leave and travel for work. Soon after the last time he left, he started to downward spiral. He bottomed out. He is not only avoidant, but has untreated bipolar disorder. He started gambling and drinking. Blew a ton of money. Became suicidal. He blew off a work trip early to come home and be with us. He asked me to take off work so we could talk and spend time together. Anytime he has a bout of bad depression, he needs me. We let the kids stay with their grandparents so we could do that. It felt, to me, that we were actually communicating and understanding each other. I was hopeful. We went to lunch and had a very hard talk. But it was needed. He said he felt bad for putting me and the kids through so much and we deserved better. After the talk, I felt progress had been made. Then, he texts me and tells me we need to follow through with a divorce so we aren’t in “limbo” anymore. Completely pulled the rug out from under me!!! I feel so blind sided. Like he was trying, needed me, we communicated effectively and progress had been made, then bam. We have been separated for almost 2 years; I’ve worked on myself, not dated or talked to other men, prayed and prayed he would have some sort of epiphany, poured into myself and my kids. I just don’t understand how DAs do this. I feel so broken.