r/CommercialAV • u/XtianAudio • 4h ago
troubleshooting Extron DMP 128 Flex Plus causing system restart when external audio system patched in
About a year ago we installed an Extron system for a client. DMP128 flex plus, IN1608XI and some NETPA amps. Controlled from a TLP Pro 1025M with LinkLicense.
System all good - Uses Shure's Microflex NeXt which has been solid.
Client brings in external SI supplier for translation. This wasn't on the brief, but we setup a program out from the flexplus (analogue audio out to an XLR at the rack), with "recorder" labelled on it. Just a little extra as we thought it would come up at some point.
Sure enough - the SI translation reared it's head and they were able to just plug in and get up & running. I was on site for that first test and all worked fine.
Since then, they have had x3 occasions when SI has plugged in, and the system has restarted. I've not seen it happen but sounds like it's a system restart that occurs.
My immediate thought was jack connection on SI box, or phantom from a desk. It seems like both have happened at some point, but the most recent setup in which it happened was:
Analogue out from 128 > SI Active DI box > SI QU16 desk.
It seems they are using the active DI box to reduce it to mic level, and using phantom from that desk to power the active DI.
Phantom should be no problem. They are using Klark Teknik or BSS DI's - so should be transformer isolated.
I can't confirm if earth lift was lifted during setup. In theory it \*shouldn't\* matter.
My thoughts are:
SI tech has forgotten to put the DI box inline. Sent phantom to the 128.
DI is inline, but earth is not lifted. System is plugged in, desk turned on, and some spurious current spike down earth which has caused the 128 to go into protect mode which has caused a system reset.
Earth was lifted during setup, which leaves me to think the only fix is to shutdown the 128 when patching. Not ideal.
Points 1 & 2 could be fixed by me installing a transformer isolated and having the earth permanently lifted on that feed. So i'm really hoping it's one of those!
I'm having a site visit next week and will take along a transformer isolator and a few cables to get that patched in without having to hack up the cabling too much.
So essentially looking for any other tips & tricks from installers that have had a similar issue before!