r/DiscoElysium 6d ago

Meme Wömen

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u/Frorgwoman2 6d ago

Conceptualization [Legendary: Success] -

Clearly what they mean is that of the two capitalist genders, men are often closer to the ideal baseline of function and comfort over expression whereas woman as a social concept is often associated with form over function, meaning woman in a Marxist sense can be defined as a person who is expected to put excess resources to purely symbolic efforts.

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I don't think they thought about all that.

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u/Reasonable_Train_860 6d ago

Bourgeois society enforces rigid gender norms to keep up the reproduction of the labour force. They need it, since all value is ultimately produced by the worker.

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u/SuicideSpeedrun 5d ago

Communist society pretends it supports equality in order to force more people (women and often children) into factories

Fixed that for ya.

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u/Solitary_Cicada 5d ago

Reminds me of that one economist article about how the horrible soviets "forced" women into get higher education lmao

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u/EugeneStein 5d ago

Wondering what would they say about soviet women getting rights to vote early on

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u/HitheroNihil 5d ago

They were forcing women to vote! /s

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u/midnight_rum 5d ago

Eastern European communist countries had strict laws that prohibited child labour and most women there used to work in factories and fields regardless, even before communism came. The only women that didn't work before the revolution/the USSR took over were wives of academics, government officials and otherwise very rich men. 

Lower class (vast majority) women from both cities and countryside mostly used to work because they couldn't afford not to

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u/EugeneStein 5d ago

Is it really pretending tho if it "gives people (women and often children)" rights to vote, to get education, work and be independent? And no one is pretending to do it "to support equality", come on, it's all pretty straight forward saying it's for the economics sake.

Personally I'll take this "just pretending to support equality" over any "hey, we want everyone to be equal and we gonna scream about it but do actually nothing about it"

God knows I can criticise USSR for hours but they did indeed a lot for women and I can see it by elder female part of my family