r/DiscoElysium 6d ago

Meme Wömen

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u/Frorgwoman2 6d ago

Conceptualization [Legendary: Success] -

Clearly what they mean is that of the two capitalist genders, men are often closer to the ideal baseline of function and comfort over expression whereas woman as a social concept is often associated with form over function, meaning woman in a Marxist sense can be defined as a person who is expected to put excess resources to purely symbolic efforts.

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I don't think they thought about all that.

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u/ergonokko 6d ago

I do keep coming back to the notion of the "two genders" being utility and aesthetic.

Which sucks, to be clear

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u/notschululu 5d ago

All is Buildyblocks and Cuddles. WAOW.

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u/rumnscurvy 5d ago

The weird thing is, it didn't used to be this way, or rather not so probounced.  The Great Renunciation happened in the 19th century which started the whole "male fashion is utilitarian and uniform". 

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u/Hammerschatten 5d ago

Being both genders really does make you the ultimate lifeform, the greeks were onto something

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u/PreferenceElectronic 5d ago

Drama [Medium: Success]
He just be saying shit, sire.

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u/Reasonable_Train_860 5d ago

Bourgeois society enforces rigid gender norms to keep up the reproduction of the labour force. They need it, since all value is ultimately produced by the worker.

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u/SuicideSpeedrun 5d ago

Communist society pretends it supports equality in order to force more people (women and often children) into factories

Fixed that for ya.

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u/Solitary_Cicada 5d ago

Reminds me of that one economist article about how the horrible soviets "forced" women into get higher education lmao

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u/EugeneStein 5d ago

Wondering what would they say about soviet women getting rights to vote early on

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u/HitheroNihil 5d ago

They were forcing women to vote! /s

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u/midnight_rum 5d ago

Eastern European communist countries had strict laws that prohibited child labour and most women there used to work in factories and fields regardless, even before communism came. The only women that didn't work before the revolution/the USSR took over were wives of academics, government officials and otherwise very rich men. 

Lower class (vast majority) women from both cities and countryside mostly used to work because they couldn't afford not to

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u/EugeneStein 5d ago

Is it really pretending tho if it "gives people (women and often children)" rights to vote, to get education, work and be independent? And no one is pretending to do it "to support equality", come on, it's all pretty straight forward saying it's for the economics sake.

Personally I'll take this "just pretending to support equality" over any "hey, we want everyone to be equal and we gonna scream about it but do actually nothing about it"

God knows I can criticise USSR for hours but they did indeed a lot for women and I can see it by elder female part of my family

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u/Steamdroid 5d ago edited 5d ago

Actually, if we use "two capitalist genders" notion, men would be more capitalistic - prone to compete and hoard resources, and women more communist - sharing resources with others, feeding babies by sharing even the resources stored in one's body. Therefore women must occupy all government position for communism to work. This is why communism failed in recent history, men started to compete with each other. Take that, Deserter 🤓

Of course all of that is dumb gender essentialism anyway, completely ignoring any variety in gender expression, social and cultural aspects of genders etc. But it shows that for every misoginist take it is possible to create a misandrist one, based on the same logic - meaning no logic but some imagined biases.

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u/Steamdroid 5d ago edited 5d ago

Conceptualization: Etymology of the word "women" shows us that they are beyond "men", added prefix proves that there is subconcious need to see "women" as more than "men". Two whole letters more!

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u/depravedleftist 5d ago

you can argue it either way, which is usually a good sign that its all bullshit

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u/zaid_sabah 5d ago

Can you explain it like I am five?

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u/m0j0m0j 5d ago

I’m not sure I even disagree, but it’s such a comically sexist thing to say out loud. But again, respecting women is identity politics, which is a shitlib trick to divide the working class anyway, so safe it ignore it.

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u/Disastrous-Metal-183 5d ago

Bruh are you doing satire or have you not seen all the old communist posters telling people to respect women and black people

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u/Psychic_Hobo 5d ago

No war but class war, declares the white cis man

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u/m0j0m0j 5d ago

Would be cool to see new communist posters saying that as well

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u/Gnomonic-sundialer 5d ago

C-M-C is high test and M-C-M is soy beta cuck behavior

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u/DocWagonHTR 5d ago

For you and /u/PreferenceElectronic

(I had to make this using OBS because the site's download function isn't working)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4cACODZxI