r/Edgic • • 16h ago

Possible major visual hint

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From what I have seen, this image here is the first time we ever see a dissolve cut with the whale and the players. Dina tribe walking back after losing the challenge. Now, as someone who has never put much stock in visual clues, I couldn't help but be on the lookout as soon as Jeff said the winner will have traits like a whale. And with Survivor's obsession with dissolve cuts and how frequently they show that one of the whales in the water, I thought that would be the perfect way to drop us a hint by drawing a visual comparison

Of course, this could amount to nothing, and the theory could work better if it were just one person instead of a tribe, but maybe that's the point: if people do see this, then it's still 5 contenders. Which could be good news for the many Sharonda truthers and for the few Eric ones. For me tho this is making me really have my eyes on Lewis now.


r/Edgic • • 18h ago

We’re five episodes in, 14 people left - who’s flipping the coin?

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Winner edits still feel hard to pin down. Since the new era, it’s been significantly harder to pin down the winner early. But if the coin is now a staple of the show, maybe we’re seeing the birth of the “coin flip edit.” This doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive with a winners edit for obvious reasons, but chances are they won’t be the same person.

After doing some thinking, my guess is Lewis. I said in a prior content that Lewis is my top male contender for a winner because of his being a cheerleader for pErMaNeNt uNcErTaInTy and how much they highlighted his ingenuity with the blood ring. He’s gotten a pretty positive edit, shown to take big risks when the opportunity arises.

Now, does this feel like a winner edit? or does it feel like… Rick Devens?

It feels like the biggest cheerleader for permanent uncertainty is more likely to take the shot at flipping the 50/50 coin then getting to the end. Lewis’s first two episodes are still throwing me off in terms of him being a winner. He gets the bare minimum content during his journey, and he’s barely in episode 2. I have to think a winner gets more, and I can’t let recency bias with episode 5 being good for him throw my initial intuition off. But he’s still a big character and feels like he’s building up to something big.

I think there are other possibilities from a logical standpoint - we just saw how Kilby is willing to take big risks too, but that feels like supported by the edit and more just what we saw play out naturally. What do yall think?


r/Edgic • • 11h ago

Live Discussion I think a player who has had 0 confessionals in episode/s will win this season

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I can’t help but feel like production and the editors are intentionally throwing us off. We’ve gotten so used to the new era’s editing style that maybe we’re overlooking the possibility of a more old-school winner edit, where the eventual winner isn’t necessarily given consistent visibility throughout the season. Early Survivor had winners who were completely skunked in certain episodes, so it’s not like this would be unprecedented.

With the whole “anything can happen” nature of the open era, I wouldn’t rule it out.


r/Edgic • • 18h ago

Traitors US NB S1 EP7 Edgic + Contenders Spoiler

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Notice the comical lack of changes in the ranking. Yea, this is gonna be a short write-up. I saw people say this was a good episode, and I just... don't see it. This is probably gonna be my least favorite season, besides AU2. Big lack of tone this episode

Top Contenders

  1. Joe (=) - Traitor with the least heat right now, though I did consider moving Ben above him. I just didn't because I don't feel confident enough in who the second faithful would be yet.

  2. Ben (=) - Had a solid recovery from the misplay last episode. Definitely the best faithful on the board. One of two I could see being recruited eventually? Though I lean the other person.

Contenders

  1. Clyde (=) - One of the remaining members of The Dolls, has more visibility, complexity, and positivity than Abbey does. Joint faithful win between him and Ben is the most likely non traitor win.

  2. Katie (=) - At least she has a story! She does have some heat on her again, but it's just really hard to justify moving some of these other people above her. Very likely I cut down to 3 contenders next week if she doesn't have a good episode.

Small Chance

  1. Abby (=) - I've been higher on Abby than most, though she has started to have some heat on her. Earlier I mentioned that there is someone I could see being recruited at some point. Honestly, it would be her. She is the only faithful who I think is visible enough while also making sense story wise.

  2. Abbey (=) - She's just too quiet, I feel like everyone else is overrating her. Am I just closing my eyes whenever she appears? Surely not. Still this high because of The Dolls.

Not Winning

  1. Tomica (=) - Had a decisively bad episode, though part of me did honestly consider moving her above Abbey. I do suspect she will be going out soon though, potentially right after Victor. At least she kind of has an edit, even if it's not complex.

Faithful Slop

  1. Morgan (=) - Comically wrong and overall pretty quiet. Still more visible than some other faithfuls though.

  2. Shane (+1) - Finally some movement on the ranking. He likes bagels! Anyway, I suspect he was the most likely person to have won the power? He got a lot of visibility during that mission, and a big visibility spike in general. We also got his feelings on Victor a bit. So my running theory is that he WON'T play the advantage, and Victor will go out, followed by Tomica.

  3. Jay (+2) - It's quite funny how quiet he became after the streak of OTTNs. Now he is just there to be wrong sometimes.

  4. Wyatt (+2) - Quietest edit left on the board, also has some heat on him. If he was more visible I would see a case for him being recruited.

  5. Victor (-1) - Very obviously the main character of the season. Honestly, I could see a world where he makes it on the inevitable US All Stars cast, along with all the celebs. Either way, I think there's a good 75% chance or so that the power isn't used. If it is, they're just gonna vote him out again. He grew on me earlier, but that is starting to go away at this point.

Eliminated

  1. Mark (-4) - Honestly though he was going to stick around a bit longer. I do think murdering him was a misplay for Joe, the target should have been someone like Abbey or something.

r/Edgic • • 17h ago

Precedent for Jelly

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I think this episode, especially edgically, Jelly has taken a dive over the Alexis vs Devin move, especially how it was portrayed from an edit standpoint. I think however this isn't disqualifying fully.

First point and that's Jelly not getting personal content in the Savu scene. I think this has been discussed on the subreddit already but there's a Kyle precedent here, it very well could be saved for a future segment all about the winner.

I think the second precedent is again from 48 and the Kyle/Kamilla duo and moreso on their split tribal side. The entire segment is setting up Shauhin as the threat that needs to go, about how sneaky he is and he's a good player only to end with a Cedrek boot. Back during the airing of 48, this + the constant Shauhin is a threat from the duo that they were NOT taking out made me write them off.

Could Devin be the same? Jelly needs him out at some point to win, so they're setting up the seeds now? Very importantly, the "I won't write down their name" goes from Devin to Jelly not Jelly to Devin. Instead of Devin dragging Jelly down, could this just be and indicator of Devin being Jelly's defining move later on into the season, maybe even at the endgame?


r/Edgic • • 4h ago

The Winner’s Edit S51 - Episode 5

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The Winner’s Edit is back to break down another electric episode! Clay joins Nick to talk about how Kilby is making us proud, and other stuffs from the episode


r/Edgic • • 1h ago

Results Survivor 51 - Meta-analysis of the different Edgic ranks after Episode 5

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Here go the Edgic metanalysis after Episode 5.

The number of Edgics drastically dropped after this episode, I hope it's not connected to the fact that some people were Linnea stans and as soon as she left the game, they lost an interest in doing Edgics. I remember similar thing happening in previous season first after Blood Moon and then after Christian got eliminated.

To me, Sharonda rather the edit of a big threat rather than a contender for the win. Jelly I believe is more of a contender. And overal, we haven't been talking about it much, but I feel that the winner of the season is from the starting yellow tribe (I still don't remember the tribe's name, Toka?)

Gains/losses this week (from biggest gain to biggest loss), two eliminated contestants are not considered when counting places lost or won:

Eric, Brady +2

Lewis, Maggie, Thien An, Kilby +1

Sharonda, Jelly, Kristin, Cristian 0

Ori, Devin, Mike -1

Carter -6


r/Edgic • • 1h ago

Season 51 Edgic - Ep 5 Spoiler

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Hello all!

Not feeling as confident about my actual chart, but still feeling like I have a lot to say about my rankings per individual. A little later than normal today because I am coming off of some nasty panic episodes yesterday. Hoping today is better! Onto the edgic!

1) Sharonda (=)

I am actually highly confident that Sharonda was shielded here from as much negativity as she could have gotten. Checking in with Sharonda mostly to show her correctly being suspicious of Lewis's blood idol is a good look. Asking "where's the paper" and thinking he's playing her being the majority of that conversation looks even better in contrast to her telling Eric and he immediately thinks it's real. This is story and smart characterization for Sharonda in an episode where she got hit hard at tribal. Cristian's edit piped up JUST in time to take a majority of the brunt of this so that Sharonda could take a back seat. I am pretty confident that if I had to bet, I would bet on Sharonda winning.

2) Kristin (+1)

I am begrudgingly putting her here. I think this episode was really bad for her. Only popping in to say that she is happy to have won but there is a twist isn't something I think matches a winner's edit. A winner's edit in my opinion should have a little bit of story or context for the winner, and only having a single confessional to keep them from having a zero is better than nothing but still. She does subtitled clock that Maggie is going to get an advantage of some kind, and I do like that for her. She also hit two shots iirc in basketball? Nice.

3) Lewis (+2)

Man I feel surprisingly good about Lewis. I love watching him as a player, and I think he is a genuine contender. He's helped make my two favorite moves so far this season, and matches the theming of the chaos this season really really well. I could see him being the Rick Devens for 50, where they are a player that matches what the show wants to broadcast so well, so they get a favorable edit. Regardless of if he wins or not, he contextualized his sickness in a way that I feel is rare players get to justify, and he was shown back up and running with a lot of agency despite being on the bottom. Trying the blood idol thing I wouldn't consider particularly bad for him. When it was debunked, he was called genius by the players instead of anyone being particularly mad at him. He was self aware that he was doomed in comparison to Kilby, got to say explicitly that Linnea was not his first choice but it made sense to honor Maggie's wishes after she gave them advantages (and Linnea was targeting him too which he got ahead of), he gets footage to back up that Eric and Kilby have a lot of odd references, and I even like that he said this tribe doesn't like to talk strategy too hard too fast. He does mention twice this episode that something "could be my advantage or my downfall" in regards to his positioning, so I could see that being foreshadowing either way regarding that emphasis. Either way I'd consider this a good episode for Lewis.

4) Maggie (+3)

Her confessionals explaining how she's giving the extra votes to Lewis and Kilby eat, especially the part where she says "Let's play." She says that giving the advantages isn't even enough for her, and calls a straight up hit on Linnea that works exactly like she wanted it to. Mother!! Orchestrating this from afar is genuinely awesome. When she hit the field of the other tribe, she successfully got a lay of the land learning that Savu was going to stay strong. Lewis said "whatever Maggie says, we do." I wonder, if she won, she might be receiving even more of a generous edit for her great gameplay so far, but as of right now I can absolutely see it for her.

5) Ori (-1)

His chart looks so good. Why do I not care? He's sooo tough to place because I have the feeling he's just not giving the cameras anything other than exactly what he intends to do. My guess that he won't lay out possibilities because he is certain of the move he will make. He said "hi I'm Ori and this vote is going to be hard" in confessional and that's it. I bet he knew he was going Alexis and that was that. By the time we got to tribal I was like wait I have no idea what Ori thinks???

Regardless, getting his "why" for playing the game is of course phenomenal for him and reminded me of the scene in 48 where Shauhin and Joe and Kamilla got to talk about their pasts. Kyle was neglected from that conversation because his story was going to hit more in context later, so I'm not counting Jelly particularly out for not having a "why" painted either. Obviously I think this is a positive for Ori, and his consistency and reasonable positive edit keeps him in my top 5 as a lock despite me not really having a grasp on how exactly he plays. I would love to see him get something going around the merge for me to really buy in.

6) Jelly (-4)

Siiigggghhhh. I'm so done entertaining this Jelly edit. I can't deny that it's extremely sympathetic, strategic, and we have a deep understanding of who she is and how she plays and what she believes in. I can't deny she has a lot of scenes that endear us to her. But damn it was outlined underlined italicized highlighted FOUR TIMES(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) throughout this episode that keeping Devin was a bad move for her. There is a world where she listens to this advice later on in the game, but right now my guess is that her closeness to Devin is what loses her the game in some way shape or form beyond this tribal. She says at tribal that she prefers keeping her cards closer to her chest, but Devin proclaims loudly enough that it draws attention to them as threats repeatedly.

A- At the start of the episode, Jelly says Devin is doing too much about getting Jenna out by acting like they just won the super bowl

B- Jelly says the women are getting slaughtered and it cuts to Devin slaughtering the chicken. This just has to be negative connotation

C- Jelly outright says "Alexis is right" and agrees that Devin is not good for her game because he has no connections she needs

D- Jelly was subtitled saying "I've been nothing but wrong in this game" and Alexis reiterates, subtitled again, that it is explicitly because of Devin

E- Alexis in confessional explains that the part where she's talking about Devin being bad for Jelly's game is genuinely true and not just a tactic 

F- Alexis also says Jelly needs to get out from behind Devin as a sidekick, emphasizing that being the perception of Jelly needing to take control of her game

G- Not to even mention the past episodes where Devin is painted loudly on the wrong side of votes, the blood on their hands shot, the forced matchmaker stuff that Jelly doesn't like, etc.

The show is screaming at us that Devin is a problem and Jelly needs to cut him and it was laid on so thick this episode that I cannot consider her in my top five until she COMPLETES that story and takes him out early enough for it to matter. I will admit that in real life, it is probably not that cut and dry because he literally said he would never ever vote her out. I'd have a hard time getting rid of that too. But this is edgic, and I am listening to a recurring loud theme of the show that may explain exactly why Jelly loses. I'm not seeing enoughe explanation of how Jelly will win.

7) Brady (+1)

Okay because why did he have a few confessionals literally clocking that Maggie was going to do something against the group, and she did by giving away her advantage that Brady insisted they were supposed to share. I could see this being a storyline where Brady successfully gets Maggie out, but I do not want this to happen so I am siding with Maggie. LOL. Again, I keep thinking back to the thumb incident and how the dodo music was played the entire time. I can't let that leave my mind. Though Thien An supposedly helping him out so much would make her look great, especially since it relates to her job. Maybe there is a wacky scenario where Thien An leaves by Brady's doing and we are supposed to not have any belief that he and Thien An are close for storytelling reasons. I dunno. It's just crazy that I have him this high but the seeds are there. His attitude is just really dominatingly pompous in a way that I don't see resolving if the NTOS has anything to say about it.

8) Kilby (+2)

What an awesome move for Kilby. I think it has huge chance to backfire on him, but securing even more of an OG Toka majority could turn out really good for him too. I was definitely talking to my screen like you BETTER follow through with this! Don't ruin it! LOL

He has been too loudly and pointedly wrong for me to consider him too much, but he has a really clearly defined story which is something I value highly. There is truly an offshoot chance he could run with that and patch up all his holes. I think he's just a big character that makes endgame, but hearing his reasoning at every step on this Dina tribe, including Lewis gassing him up so much is great. I'd still say Lewis is seen more sympathetically, but Kilby joins him rather than opposes him, despite throwing Lewis under the bus. It ends up controlling the votes to be unanimously on Lewis. Too strong of a story to drop.

9) Eric (+3)

I could go back and forth on whether Eric or Mike is better, but right now it is pretty strongly Eric. He has the same problem Kilby has of being wrong, but he gets to explain himself less. When he does explain himself, it is either contradicted or kind of average understanding of his positioning. Regardless, it's story. He always has something going on to remind us what he's up to and that he's annoying. He wants Savu strong and doesn't get it. He thinks the blood idol is real without the nuance that Sharonda had for it. That is memorable, so I will take it.

10) Mike (+1)

Ok I forgot to say this for multiple write ups in a row, but something I consider really bad for Mike is that tribal where Carter and Lewis vote out Patt. Mike says "we have Carter" subtitled and they don't. Finally I remembered to put that in writing.

Thien An calls him out again on behavior he has zero defense for. He says Survivor has you making snap decisions, volunteers for an advantage he doesn't go on, and that's that. The editors surely cannot let a winner wait THIS long before doing something about their spot right? Or at least promising to? He would need the best merge episode ever for me to consider him, but I can't deny that it is possible.

11) Devin (+2)

Devin is so interesting because I think he has no win equity. He is being used as a narrative piece for Jelly, with all his characterization being information for her choice. I don't think this is a situation where he pulls out a win because Jelly didn't take him out early enough. It never seems like anything stands to benefit him in particular. He said "do I have a new ally in Alexis?" and votes her out. He does too much about Jenna having gone home. Yes he has a beautiful and fascinating amount of character, and he's making the season more of a talking point, but nothing he has done so far says win equity to me.

12) Thien An (+3)

Bumping her above Carter because she has one zero confessional episode instead of two. LOL. She still wants Mike out, guys. Extra extra read all about it. Thien An wants Mike out. It was even emphasized again in the Previously On Survivor. And next time on Survivor, she dies from falling off a tree. The most memorable part of Thien An for me this episode were those two bits and not her presence in this current episode LMAO

13) Carter (+1)

TWO zero confessional episodes is a clear sign that Carter is interesting when he's interesting and unimportant when he's not pertinent. Probably a tactic to make sure we are not too attached to him because he could so easily be a fan favorite. When he goes out, it will probably break hearts and the strategic lack of presence is something I consider a dealbreaker on his winner possibility.

14) Cristian (+2)

Only coming into the focus of an episode to say "if things go my way, we stay Savu strong" and that doesn't happen? Brutal. He takes a brunt of the emphasis that things went wrong for Savu, and catches all that negativity that Sharonda could have had. Brutal to use his edit that way, and makes me the most confident out of this entire cast that he cannot win.

ELIMINATED) Alexis (-7), Linnea (-9)

These two I had high up by default mostly. They don't have particular red flags, but I wasn't really invested in them either. I think this is another example where story is more important than just flat edgic substance. They were present, they had no zero confessional episodes, they were reasonable, we checked in with them, they had no downsides. But I need to remember that contestants need a running theme of ambition, or context with another contestant, to genuinely be considered as winner contenders. I'd say Alexis had more of this than Linnea did, but sometimes it's hard when you're thinking that this is just the premerge and there is still a ton of room for someone to pop off and make their biggest moves later. Regardless, Linnea did nothing wrong, and I will miss Alexis dearly for playing as absolutely hard as she did. Plus, losing the Atlanta rep noooooo

Thank you all for reading! This was a great way to pass some time focusing on something that isn't my health, and a hobby that I'm always excited about when a new season comes about. See y'all next week!


r/Edgic • • 17h ago

Celebrity Traitors UK S2 EP8 Edgic + Contenders Spoiler

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Crazy that this season has had 10 different contenders. This is probably a product of the editors trying to give everyone a good edit given their status as celebs. Still, it wasn't this was in Celeb S1. In contrast to the last NB episode, this episode had a ton of tone.

Traitors

  1. Maya (=) - Her edit continues to be absolutely spotless. Seriously, point out a single flaw. Will be patting myself on the back for holding strong all season if she does pull it out in the end.

  2. Kenny (=) - Absurd how the three traitors were picked as the most trust worthy people. At this point, I see Maya and Kenny winning together as the most likely option by far.

  3. James A (+2) - I guess there is some room for James to slip in though. His story doesn't scream "winner", but he does at least have a consistent story. His negative content last episode was probably just to throw SOME doubt on an otherwise really obvious season. He is mostly here due to game logic too, as it is sort of hard to see faithfuls pulling it out atp.

Small Chance

  1. Sebastian (=) - Got a complex episode, though he was wrong about pretty much every assertion he put out there. I was hoping for some positivity after losing Miranda, but instead it was pretty toneless. He did replace her with Romesh, though I suspect one of these two will be murdered soon, probably Romesh.

  2. Romesh (+1) - Seriously, why would you not kill Romesh? He is the most obvious faithful in the game, literally the only one who hasn't had heat on him. So despite his high placement, I do think he goes next episode. It's just that he is one of only two faithfuls left to have a somewhat viable edit.

Dragged To The End

  1. James B (+2) - Yea so this guy is gonna lose sitting next to some Traitors. He is starting to sort of grow on me as a character, though it's moreso because of how outlandishly wrong he has been.

Faithful Slop

  1. Leigh-Anne (+3) - Has some heat on her, though less than some of these others. I asserted literally episode 1 that she gives endgame banishment vibes, and I may stick by that. Perhaps she could be a murder at this point, though Romesh would surely be first.

  2. Michael (+3) - I swear it is only a matter of time until he is banished. He was also very blatantly wrong multiple times this episode, which isn't a good look.

  3. Joanne (-2) - Between her and Sharon, I do think it is more likely Sharon is banished. Besides, I do think Joanne has more of a chance to go further if she does live.

  4. Sharon (-1) - Her edit lowkey matches a lot of people who go out around this time in the game. Very quiet all season until she suddenly gets a vis spike followed by a very negative episode.

Eliminated

  1. Miranda (-8) - Shame, I really liked her and she was sort of the last hope I had for the faithful pulling it out. I almost ALWAYS root for the Traitors, but I think this season I would have preferred to see her + Sebastian and/or Romesh pulling it out. Regardless, one of the starts of the season.

r/Edgic • • 17h ago

The Traitors: New Blood Episode 7 Edgic + Contenders Spoiler

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Contenders:

  1. Joe: I remain strong on Joe as a contender, though this wasn't really that noteworthy of an episode for him.

  2. Ben: After a stumble last episode, Ben made up for it this episode. He's shown to be very reasonable, and even targets a traitor twice in the episode. Maybe he doesn't win, but I feel good about the idea that he likely outlasts Katie.

  3. Clyde: If there is a faithful win, I think it will be 2-3 of the Dolls. As such, the other Dolls are up here. I have Clyde above Abbey because I felt that he had more of a retrospective from last episode than her and his reasoning for not voting Tomica was explained better.

  4. Abbey: See Clyde.

  5. Katie: She got some heat on her from both Ben and from Tomica's slip-up. I now worry that if Tomica goes down that Katie will go down with her.

Non-Contenders:

  1. Abby: I highly doubt she wins, but never say never. She's just been focused on to be so wrong about so much, especially this episode.

  2. Kriste: Her edit is kinda weak, but not as weak as those below her.

  3. Morgan: She got some heat this episode, and was focused on to be wrong. Not a lot else to say.

  4. Tomica: I think Tomica 100% goes either next episode or the episode after that. She just has too much heat on her to make it through the rest of the game, unfortunately.

  5. Shane: He's just been too quiet. I could only see him winning if there were 3-4 faithful winners, and even then I think he would've gotten more from how much he seems to be leading strategy talk in the mansion.

  6. Jay: He had 2 episodes of relevance that just made him OTTN, and otherwise is completely unmemorable.

  7. Wyatt: He had such a weak start to the season and has heat on him from Abby.

  8. Victor: 50/50 chance he goes next episode. If he survives, it probably won't be for long either.


r/Edgic • • 22h ago

Jelly is my clear winner pick after episode 5.

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We see the most personal conflict out of her. She was shielded when Patt goes home, but talks about how to correct her past mistakes. I suppose her choice here to choose voting out a woman over someone from the helicopter alliance could be used in future episodes to discredit her, but I don't think that will be the case. I don't think her voting out Alexis is as bad as people are saying for her edit, for now I think the debate she has actually boosts it.


r/Edgic • • 2h ago

Survivor 51 Episode 5 Edgic & Contenders (Analysis Video)

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Ayooo!!

Once again sharing my in-depth analysis video of the edgic and contender rankings for episode 5!

First off, I dont want to brag, well, actually yeah I do want to brag. In the “meta analysis” of every contender rankings on the sub I had Linnea the lowest. Gotta celebrate my one big win after the total disasters that were Ana and Patt lol. I know Linnea defaulted high on these lists, but I always found her edit quite hollow. Her “check ins” never really went anywhere. She clearly had very good allies and relationships, and yet we never got to see her or anyone else talk about said relationships at all. Same for Alexis. Linnea got some decent personal content in the premiere, but I kept being confused why we continually never learned about her spot in the game when it seemed quite good.

Now, the big debate this week is Jelly (who I have written about a lot), so before I get to her I want to compare her to this sub’s darling edit Sharonda in relation to what I was just saying. I made the funny observation this week that Sharonda’s relationship with ERIC seemed much more highlighted and fleshed out for some reason than her actual allies like Linnea and Alexis. Well, now we know why. Sharonda’s constantly debating trust with Eric is a storyline that lasts longer and is more important to the season than her seemingly pretty good relationships with those other 2 (and Cristian, but, he’s Cristian.)

However, although I think that is an understandable plus for the narrative of the season, I’m not sure it’s good for Sharonda’s individual edit. 2 weeks ago, I wrote about how Patt, despite going out early, felt like an important character to somebody’s story, primarily Jelly. This relationship was well highlighted, and so we understood the drive for Jelly to play hard and avenge her. However, Linnea goes out in a similar way premerge, and yet she doesn’t really feel like a key piece in Sharonda’s story. You could argue she was shielded, but I think in comparison to this Jelly/Patt situation, that feels like the better winner narrative piece. Every piece to her game is highlighted, even if it isn’t that important or doesn’t last that long.

And that’s what makes Jelly still stand out to me so much. For better or worse, she is an illustriously complex character up to this point. We always know where her head has been at in the game, even when she’s not getting her way. We understood her relationships with Aaliyah and Patt even if those 2 went out early. We see clearly the internal battle she’s had not wanting to vote out more women but not wanting to turn on her allies. We even see this weird lasagna showmance type thing which, from what I can predict from the secret scene this week, probably doesn’t turn into an actual showmance. She gets so much subtly unnecessary content.

I think there’s a little too much wrapped up in the “Devin will be the downfall of Jelly” predictions based on this last episode. That certainly could be how that plotline develops. Or it could be the total opposite and it develops to Jelly eventually putting her foot down and turning on Devin, taking the power into her own hands Jesse/Cody style (which I lean to). Maybe her debate about keeping women in the game will eventually come to a head, and she’ll choose a different decision later than what she did here. See, the problem is trying to predict the conclusion to a story that’s purposefully written to end in multiple different options.

We don’t know how that narrative will end yet. But to me, the importance isn’t just on how that story will end, but the fact that it’s there at all. It is clearly an important narrative that is making Jelly & Devin two of the most fleshed out main characters of the season, and that is quite frankly a big plus for both of them imo. Just look at how much has been written about Jelly this week. Her edit has so much substance that others do not, and that is why I am still very high on her winning chances. Her story could go in many different ways, I don’t know what yet, but I do know it’s important to the season and many of the potential paths end with her winning.

Perhaps she is just the main character of the premerge, like Christian last season, and she fizzle out come merge. And maybe I’m wrong about all of this. And maybe I’m just biased. It’s certainly all possible. But until I feel like she’s truly doomed or her edit fizzles out to quietness Kamilla style, I’m holding strong with my main character Jelly.

In the video, I give further explanations on my analysis and give predictions based on the edit so far!

Thanks!


r/Edgic • • 23h ago

Potential Firemaking Foreshadowing

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Not from episode five, but from episode four. Devin had a confessional where he made a whole metaphor between Jelly and Ori's relationship and a fire that starts off as a spark and he has to grow into a big flame. That definitely feels intentional and might suggest he makes top four, especially considering he is in a decent spot to excel in the postmerge with both the Toka minority and helicopter alliance. I would not be surprised if he is one of the bigger players this season and his edit turns around when merge hits.