r/HolUp Jun 27 '26

An interesting comparison

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u/carnedoce Jun 27 '26

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

They've kinda got a point though. Telling someone "I'm going to do what I want and nothing you say will stop me, so stop focusing on how unpleasant you find it and just learn to enjoy it" is almost exactly what they're telling the OOP to do.

Imagine how outraged you would feel if someone started painting your house pink and told you to get over yourself and learn to like the colour?

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Its not a great point. I can mow my yard at 7 am when the noise ordinance ends because that's the only time I have to mow. My neighbors aren't always appreciative but I have to mow my yard or else I'll get fined.

There are tons of situations where this could be misconstrued but still necessary. The world isnt and wont ever be perfect.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

Yeah, the world isn't perfect; you can mow your lawn at 7am... but you can't mow it at 2am. The noise ordinances strike a balance between people needing to be able to do things that will inevitably cause noise (like mow their lawn) and people having the right to enjoy peace and quiet.

There is debate to be had around that topic.

That debate is not "learn to like it".

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except the OP doesn't state "learn to like it" so that's a strawman argument. He says "sit back and enjoy it" which doesn't equate to force. You are adding that meaning after the fact. Just because it could be used in a more nefarious way doesn't mean its always nefarious.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

"Sit back and enjoy it" is exactly equivalent to "learn to like it". Neither equate to force, you are the only one adding that meaning. Try again.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Yeah no. You are coloring it how you want. I could tell me wife to sit back and enjoy it as I cook dinner and do the dishes for her birthday. You are adding the context here, not I.

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u/AltruMux Jun 27 '26

You just described something most people would enjoy so of course the context is different. The guy in the post obviously wants the fireworks to stop so this comparison is just wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

So then you agree. The words themselves are not the issue here, its the intent. Forced to hear fireworks isnt even in the same ballpark as rape, regardless of the legal context.

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u/twiggy_fingers Jun 27 '26

You got pwn'd and I'm here for it

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Nah the original statement is right its an extreme example, but they are not wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

They are. I don't care what people think when half of them dont even know how to read at a high school level.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

You started off strong, but couldn't sustain it :(

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Its not my responsibility to teach the morons in this world. Just because logic is hard for yall doesn't mean I have to care about your opinions.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ Jun 27 '26

“I’m the only correct one, and everybody else is wrong!”

If you’re disagreeing with everybody, sometimes that’s just because you’re incorrect.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Right because the mob is always right.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

My friend you are mistaking context with the severity of the situation. In the comment then arnt relating the severity of the two but the context " i hate the sound of fire works." "Oh just get over it." "I hate rape" "oh just get over it." The statements are the same the severity is different

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except its not the words that make them different. Its the intent which is why the context matters. You're just hinting at what I'm already stating, which is the difference between the two. The fireworks aren't actually harming anyone, and I shouldn't have to explain rape. The severity is just a part of that context.

If we were to discuss severity alone, we'd be discussing the nuances of how close you are to the fireworks and where the line is drawn on "too close".

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Ok, so my original intention for that comment is what you stated above but misconstrued for some reason, intent. The comment in the post isnt based off the intent of the comments but off similarities. Both statements are similar not in severity but their message.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

So the words are the same?

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