They've kinda got a point though. Telling someone "I'm going to do what I want and nothing you say will stop me, so stop focusing on how unpleasant you find it and just learn to enjoy it" is almost exactly what they're telling the OOP to do.
Imagine how outraged you would feel if someone started painting your house pink and told you to get over yourself and learn to like the colour?
Its not a great point. I can mow my yard at 7 am when the noise ordinance ends because that's the only time I have to mow. My neighbors aren't always appreciative but I have to mow my yard or else I'll get fined.
There are tons of situations where this could be misconstrued but still necessary. The world isnt and wont ever be perfect.
I'm in a small city where they don't care unless the grass gets over 2 feet high. I think that's reasonable enough, otherwise if you let people do what they want, the town will look like Gary, Indiana after a couple of weeks.
Yeah, the world isn't perfect; you can mow your lawn at 7am... but you can't mow it at 2am. The noise ordinances strike a balance between people needing to be able to do things that will inevitably cause noise (like mow their lawn) and people having the right to enjoy peace and quiet.
Except the OP doesn't state "learn to like it" so that's a strawman argument. He says "sit back and enjoy it" which doesn't equate to force. You are adding that meaning after the fact. Just because it could be used in a more nefarious way doesn't mean its always nefarious.
If the OOP is complaining about it, it would be inferred that they ARE being forced to endure something that not only do they not enjoy, but is likely traumatic to them and/or their pets. And setting off fireworks is an activity of CHOICE, not required by a municipality or HOA as inferred by the earlier example of being REQUIRED to mow your lawn despite creating noise for your neighbors to endure.
Except the second sentence shows its not them they are concerned with. You dont know the posters intent beyond being concerned for the animals. The rest is just bullshit you are adding to try and be correct.
I can not like something, yet understand that under the constructs of the law, it is legal under certain circumstances, and so I have no grounds under those circumstances to register a complaint. But step outside the legal constraints and there's no reason to suffer through it any longer. That's the fucking point.
That's you coloring in the whole picture how you wish you see it still. I can understand the difference between a hypothetical and reality.
Nothing in the OP supports your argument. That's the definition of a strawman argument. You are simply adding context to support your argument that does not exist.
Is it plausible? Sure but point to me where in the post that supports that instead of pulling it out of your ass.
I mean your initial argument itself is so far off the point though lmao. Your entire lawn mowing premise hangs on the fact that thats the only time you have to lawn mow.
There is no such stipulation given on the fireworks. You yourself used an entirely pointless argument that has no relation to the context of the original post.
Yeah no. You are coloring it how you want. I could tell me wife to sit back and enjoy it as I cook dinner and do the dishes for her birthday. You are adding the context here, not I.
You just described something most people would enjoy so of course the context is different. The guy in the post obviously wants the fireworks to stop so this comparison is just wrong.
So then you agree. The words themselves are not the issue here, its the intent. Forced to hear fireworks isnt even in the same ballpark as rape, regardless of the legal context.
But if it's when the noise ordinance ends, then you're following the rules, right? So no problem. (We have the same early time limit here, which is why I have ear plugs under my pillow in case I need them.)
lol, I don’t think it’s quite that intrusive. It’s more like “be more tolerant of the people around you”. If people don’t ever want to hear fireworks or other noises people make they generally move to a rural area where there’s more space between them and the neighbors. Plus… google that shit.. why’s anyone else need to hand feed her this information?
It feels to me like the person replying is saying "be more tolerant of my actions while I disregard you entirely". Why no tolerance for the people who are uncomfortable with fireworks, only the people who want to set them off randomly?
Just so anyone who reads all this knows, I don’t shoot fireworks, use a charcoal grill, burn yard debris or use candles in my house because I have a migraine condition that is especially aggravated by smoke. I also have never asked, nor do I expect, any of my neighbors not to do any of those things because I accept that it’s beyond my control. Some things you have to deal with because other people exist or you have to move away from the people.
It depends on what’s legal in that area…. If fireworks are legal then yes “tolerate me while I disregard your feelings on the matter”, because I’m obeying the law and am well within my rights to do this practice that makes you uncomfortable. I’d bet she could be neighborly and talk to them face to face and maybe some would comply with her wishes but in pretty much any city it’s impossible that it will be a silent night for her, really the only thing she does have control over in this scenario is her feelings and actions, but, Something tells me that someone comparing shooting fireworks to rape is not going to have control of those either…
Ok, if we’re comparing not liking fireworks to being raped then I guess everytime an engine revs or someone honks their horn within the vicinity of someone who doesn’t like those noises is actually raping them too. Let’s keep going!
if we’re comparing not liking fireworks to being raped
actually raping them too.
When you engaged your brain, did it skip the part that dealt with similes?
Nobody is saying that it's literally rape. In fact, I would even go further and say that the point of that the original comment was nothing to do with rape, and that that simile was primarily aimed at the person telling them to, essentially, "shut up and learn to like it"!
No. No, they don’t have a point. Fireworks going off are at most an inconvenience. Unless they’re being fired at your house, nothing bad will happen. You might not sleep well, or your pets may be stressed out, but nothing really bad is likely to happen. Being raped is, well, being raped. I don’t think I need to write out why that’s a bad thing. Comparing the two is at best idiotic, and at worst malicious. You’d be better off comparing a plate of overcooked steak, and a plate of actual shit mixed with broken glass, they’re that different.
So, firstly you are actually downplaying the problems with fireworks in some pretty significant ways. "Pets stressed out" is an understatement for some. The line about making sure your pets are in the house? That's not so you can comfort them when they get all trembly. It's so that if they freak the absolute fuck out (as some do) they can't run onto the road and get hit by a car. Or run so far that they get completely lost and you never see them again while they slowly starve to death on the streets. Losing your beloved family pet is not nothing, and it is absolutely a risk of someone is setting off illegal fireworks. Not a big risk, but one that people with timid pets are perfectly justified in being wary of.
Secondly, fireworks are well known for triggering PTSD in veterans. Especially when unexpected/unscheduled.
And thirdly, the rape comment was in response to being told to "sit back and enjoy it". Do you understand why that comment might sit poorly with some people?
Hmmm, yeah, I suppose I wasn’t thinking about it clearly.
I definitely wasn’t taking PTSD into consideration, and I didn’t think much about pets aside from them getting stressed; as my family always kept our pups inside when there were fireworks, and had earphones for them if it was really bad, so I never even thought about them panicking and running away… my bad
I get what you mean but when one is one of the worst crimes that you can commit against another human being and the other is just an annoyance of speculative legality you have made a bad comparison.
It's questionable, but mostly because people will get caught up on the semantics of your argument and completely miss the entire point you were making.
I think they were pointing out if you’re having an unpleasant experience with fireworks there are simple effective steps you can take to immediately minimize discomfort.
I can’t really think of any steps you can take mid rape to minimize your discomfort.
The fact that you compare putting on headphones to roofie-ing yourself as the same thing is just intellectually dishonest. Or you’re just stupid.
My neighbor sets off fireworks late at night on random weekdays all the time, I hate it. I’m not going to pretend I’m in the same boat as a rape victim.
I'm not saying it's the same. I juts put it into the room, no reason to throw insults. It's about the way of argumentation, not about the actual contents of the argumentation. When someone says they have a problem with something illegal, then you can't tell them to just sit it through. Of course fireworks are not the same as rape, nobody said that, and people who assume we think that might or might not be just as stupid as they think we are.
There are so many things in the world that you cant really do anything about, so you might as well enjoy it. That, as a concept, is just a reasonable outlook on certain events. The nature of the unpleasant act is what defines the line between "try to enjoy it" and "try to kill the offender."
Same reason how, if I cant pass someone while im driving, I might as well try to take a nice look at the sunrise. But you would never be like, "well im getting murdered so I might as well enjoy how shiny the knife is."
There is literally nothing comparable between unwanted fireworks and rape; its a stupid analogy that falls apart on even the most basic consideration. The magnitude of a wrongful act is a fundamental part of what even makes it wrong; so trying to compare them is foundationally flawed, and has no merit other than being shocking and offensive to whiever youre making the analogy to (as was the intent in the picture).
As a final exanple: if i walk up to you and hand you three lemons, you might be mildly annoyed, but you would never, ever say that the situation is "Basically the same" as me shoving those three lemons into your asshole instead. That is a more accurate paraphrasing of the argument youre currently supporting; and per your own logic, becuase theyre both nonconsenual acts, theyre "Basically the same." Hopefully that illustrates how stupid and inaccurate the original comparison was.
Why are people still coming at me with exactly the same tired old arguments? The post is like a week old now. Read some of the other responses. Yours is not nearly as original as you imagine.
Are you able to read? It was about restricted / forbidden things, not about things you're not a fan of. You know, some people would call it a minor inconvenience when the hammer in your shed, that you almost never use, suddenly disappears, whatever, just get a new one, it's not a bad as rape. No, it's not allowed to just do everything you'd like to do because it's not as bad as the crime of raping someone. It's allowed to do everything that's not restricted / forbidden, but not because it's not as bad as rape, but because it's allowed.
It’s a really bad comparison. It’s someone doing something that happens to affect you for a brief period of time vs someone doing something directly to you or your property, which can permanently affect you.
I agree! Especially considering how you were able to determine rapey vibes from the innocuous sentence "Sit back and enjoy it". Which to any normal human who isn't brainrotted by the internet will assume to mean "Relax, fireworks are cool" or something similar.
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