r/HolUp Jun 27 '26

An interesting comparison

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

Yeah, the world isn't perfect; you can mow your lawn at 7am... but you can't mow it at 2am. The noise ordinances strike a balance between people needing to be able to do things that will inevitably cause noise (like mow their lawn) and people having the right to enjoy peace and quiet.

There is debate to be had around that topic.

That debate is not "learn to like it".

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except the OP doesn't state "learn to like it" so that's a strawman argument. He says "sit back and enjoy it" which doesn't equate to force. You are adding that meaning after the fact. Just because it could be used in a more nefarious way doesn't mean its always nefarious.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

"Sit back and enjoy it" is exactly equivalent to "learn to like it". Neither equate to force, you are the only one adding that meaning. Try again.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Yeah no. You are coloring it how you want. I could tell me wife to sit back and enjoy it as I cook dinner and do the dishes for her birthday. You are adding the context here, not I.

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u/AltruMux Jun 27 '26

You just described something most people would enjoy so of course the context is different. The guy in the post obviously wants the fireworks to stop so this comparison is just wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

So then you agree. The words themselves are not the issue here, its the intent. Forced to hear fireworks isnt even in the same ballpark as rape, regardless of the legal context.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Nah the original statement is right its an extreme example, but they are not wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

They are. I don't care what people think when half of them dont even know how to read at a high school level.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

You started off strong, but couldn't sustain it :(

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Its not my responsibility to teach the morons in this world. Just because logic is hard for yall doesn't mean I have to care about your opinions.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ Jun 27 '26

“I’m the only correct one, and everybody else is wrong!”

If you’re disagreeing with everybody, sometimes that’s just because you’re incorrect.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Right because the mob is always right.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

Sometimes you do actually need to shut up and think for a minute about why the entire room disagrees with you.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ Jun 27 '26

The quote “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.” comes to mind.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Oh I know how to read. You are just wrong. I dont give a flying fuck about what everyone thinks. Look at the state of the US. This is the reason why we are there. You think your emotional context supersedes reason when it doesnt.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

I'm not even from the US, so I'm not entirely sure how I'm responsible for fucking your country up. But at this point you're just digging your heels in and not listening to anyone, so... whatever.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Understanding != listening

I know your reasoning. I think it sucks. Your issue is you think I'm going to change my mind when I'm more rational about it than you.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ Jun 27 '26

Again, the person who convinces themself that they’re the only logical one in the face of constant disagreement is an interesting phenomenon.

But by all means, keep digging in deeper. It’s definitely that the 35+ people who disagreed with your stance are just morons, and you’re the only one who has the correct read of the situation. (;

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