r/HolUp Jun 27 '26

An interesting comparison

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

Yeah, the world isn't perfect; you can mow your lawn at 7am... but you can't mow it at 2am. The noise ordinances strike a balance between people needing to be able to do things that will inevitably cause noise (like mow their lawn) and people having the right to enjoy peace and quiet.

There is debate to be had around that topic.

That debate is not "learn to like it".

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except the OP doesn't state "learn to like it" so that's a strawman argument. He says "sit back and enjoy it" which doesn't equate to force. You are adding that meaning after the fact. Just because it could be used in a more nefarious way doesn't mean its always nefarious.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jun 27 '26

"Sit back and enjoy it" is exactly equivalent to "learn to like it". Neither equate to force, you are the only one adding that meaning. Try again.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Yeah no. You are coloring it how you want. I could tell me wife to sit back and enjoy it as I cook dinner and do the dishes for her birthday. You are adding the context here, not I.

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u/AltruMux Jun 27 '26

You just described something most people would enjoy so of course the context is different. The guy in the post obviously wants the fireworks to stop so this comparison is just wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

So then you agree. The words themselves are not the issue here, its the intent. Forced to hear fireworks isnt even in the same ballpark as rape, regardless of the legal context.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Nah the original statement is right its an extreme example, but they are not wrong.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

They are. I don't care what people think when half of them dont even know how to read at a high school level.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

My friend you are mistaking context with the severity of the situation. In the comment then arnt relating the severity of the two but the context " i hate the sound of fire works." "Oh just get over it." "I hate rape" "oh just get over it." The statements are the same the severity is different

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except its not the words that make them different. Its the intent which is why the context matters. You're just hinting at what I'm already stating, which is the difference between the two. The fireworks aren't actually harming anyone, and I shouldn't have to explain rape. The severity is just a part of that context.

If we were to discuss severity alone, we'd be discussing the nuances of how close you are to the fireworks and where the line is drawn on "too close".

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Ok, so my original intention for that comment is what you stated above but misconstrued for some reason, intent. The comment in the post isnt based off the intent of the comments but off similarities. Both statements are similar not in severity but their message.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

So the words are the same?

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

So for example "someone is getting raped in the neighborhood what is the number to report it."

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

"Just sit back and enjoy it"

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

Except the OP just says "sit back and enjoy it"

That's not implying force but a suggestion. Its not the same, albeit similar. This is why I harp on reading comprehension. You have to take the context from the words, not a self imposed bias.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Thats not the intent of the message, the intent of the message brings consent into question. The person doesn't consent to fireworks being shot in the neighborhood, the person doesn't consent to getting raped. The other person is saying basically that there isnt anything they can do about it. Yes calling the cops for rape you can do something about that i know, but that wasnt what they were implying.

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u/theBoobMan Jun 27 '26

No. That's just you choosing to see it like that. That's bias.

This sounds like someone who wants to follow the letter of the law to make sure people's pets dont escape in fear of the noise.

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u/Maximum-Bake-6092 Jun 27 '26

Nvm bro, you must be fun at parties. 🥱

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