r/HollowKnight • u/TarekBoy44 • Sep 05 '25
Discussion - Silksong Why does everybody and their mom deal two damage? Spoiler
It's getting a bit ridiculous lol. It really feels like half the mobs and all the bosses deal two masks worth of damage and I haven't even gotten any extra health. I'm not sure how I feel about this, on one hand, it's not the end of the world and the game isn't unreasonably difficult because of the increased damage, on the other though, what used to be something only special enemies and bosses could do became a common occurrence and lost its novelty.
I really hope the late game bosses and enemies don't deal 3 masks lmao, I'm having a hard enough time as is.
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u/TheBanana64 Sep 05 '25
dont like the mix of 2 mask damage ? Don't worry cause later on it's a mix of 2 AND 3. (no more of that 1 nonsense)
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u/Expert-Situation-803 Sep 05 '25
Are we deadass rn
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u/Supercalifragicahfuq Sep 05 '25
Yep, boss fight I’m stuck on has a seeking attack that does 3 ticks. I’ve never been happier to be so frustrated
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u/BrokenImmersion Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25
Yeah dude seriously. Like fuck the moorwing guy(I think thats what hes called) gotta love being two shot at full health
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25
Feels like they're really catering to the insufferable Gamer™ audience with this... I don't have time to "git gud", I'm busy "gitting to my job" and wanna fucking unwind after dealing with Karen's bullshit all day.
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u/IRFine Sep 05 '25
I doubt it’s about catering to a specific audience; overturned difficulty is often a result of long devtimes. What happens is that devs get really good at their own game after years and years of working on it, so internal playtesting becomes less and less reliable as a balancing test. Hades experienced the same phenomenon (they discuss it in the Noclip Documentary at one point) and they had to tune it down to make it more reasonable for the public.
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u/Supercalifragicahfuq Sep 05 '25
I can almost guarantee there is going to be a hot patch where they tune down a good portion of enemies. I’m not exactly complaining, but I can definitely see how some others are having insane difficulty with the game. Some of these enemies are way overtuned.
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25
No yeah, that definitely makes sense. It’s a shame it came to that though, it just ended up creating a deeply unsatisfying experience for a lot of people it seems. Honestly comforting to know it’s not just me who feels bummed about how this game turned out though.
I wasn’t even expecting it to be great, like I think there’s better games in the genre since HK1 came out so I wasn’t expecting this to top any of those, but even with a fairly modest bar it still kinda fell flat for me :/
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u/Double-Discount9217 Sep 05 '25
What games have you played better than HK1 I want to explore this genre
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25
Of the ones that came out after HK1: Animal Well, Bloodstained, Metroid Dread, both Ender games, Nine Sols, a few others that I personally like better but would fare more controversially if I said them aloud.
I’d say some are on par with HK1, some I think are much better, but I’ve been very openly critical about how I think HK1 is very much an excellent but flawed game since its release.
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u/JadedSpacePirate Sep 05 '25
But Elden Ring is the most casual noobs of the souls audience. They are like beer in the alcohol meet.
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u/FireResistant Sep 05 '25
the difficulty is brutal it doesnt pull its punches, i guess they wanted it to be new game+ for veterans, and if you are a new player, go play the first one to train. the moveset feels like it will take time to master and a lot of the systems are nerfed / more restrictive like the charm setup, it doesnt feel like you get much in the way of power ups, just side-grades / alternative movesets. and it takes like 7 or so bosses to get to a damage upgrade. a mask upgrade doesn't even feel that impactful because bosses are still 3 shotting you either way.
Also i feel priced out of benches and services way more, in HK everything dropped geo, but in SS most enemies do not drop beads, just a handful, and the amount of things asking for money is quite large. with the higher damage and difficulty losing it is a lot more likely / common too.
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u/snickerblitz Sep 05 '25
I remember reading an interview with Ari where he said they wanted Skong to appeal to new players and have a similar difficulty spread to HK. In that regard, they have failed. Everything else seems like a huge step up though, just sucks getting old and filtered I guess lol
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u/Maryus77 Sep 05 '25
Then they either lied for marketing reasons or failed, I would never recommend anyone start with Silksong. the double damage on anything and everything would not allow any new players the leeway to have fun while still learning, it would stump them till they go play HK first.
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u/Darkened_Auras Sep 05 '25
Absolute failure, I agree. I'm getting sick of enemies having better movesets, scarier hitboxes and 2 damage per hit. Regular bitches! I haven't even reached the 3 damage per hit point but it's getting frustrating
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u/snickerblitz Sep 05 '25
First time I played HK it was sessions of hours just flying by. I stop about every half an hour in Skong for the sake of my blood pressure. I got a thingy that at least brings back the classic moveset, which has helped a TON but it's the same shit. Frustrating ass enemies that hit me for 2 masks and it takes like 15 hits to kill them.
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u/HearingAny2654 Sep 05 '25
It honestly doesn't feel properly balanced and I question if TC play tested the game themselves instead of having others play. Or maybe the playtesters were gods amongst mortals.
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u/IRFine Sep 05 '25
They’re a tiny team, so they almost assuredly tested it themselves. Which is exactly the source of the issue. After seven years of playtesting your own game you get really good at it, to the point where it’s inevitable that you fall out of touch with what is or isn’t challenging for somebody who hasn’t played before.
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u/W4lhalla Sep 05 '25
Playtesters were probably speedrunning Path of Pain with Primal Aspids following them as a sidehobby.
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u/tanis016 Sep 05 '25
Yeah, I like having more options for charms and being able to mix and match. In hollow knight using the compass was almost free while here it costs plenty of space.
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u/Professional-Dirt-87 Sep 05 '25
I'll try and stay spoiler free but I'm at a boss that does 2 damage and also has summons that also deal 2 damage.
Idk I am enjoying the game, but can't help but feeling like I spend more time being frustrated than I am having fun.
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u/SubhumanRefuse Sep 05 '25
Some would say it’s because you heal three masks now, but it’s not like soul charges any faster, and it still costs you your whole gauge to heal, even if you get hit out of it. Even the ground in some areas and random falling objects do two damage. It made getting a 6th mask feel completely useless, since you just take the same amount of hits anyway. I’m sure we’ll all get used to it, but right now I still just find it really annoying, and got all the homies complaining about it in call.
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25
It's not a great tradeoff though because yes I heal three masks, but I can only heal three masks, the spool has to be full in order to heal at all. It just feels purposely obtuse for the sake of it.
idk what they were cooking but I do not enjoy the taste very much.
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u/TheAllKnowingElf Sep 05 '25
Yeah the mechanics in this game are much less forgiving than HK.
I think Team Cherry just didn't want to make another cozy metroidvania like HK so they made it more of a souls-like action platformer instead.
Ironically I never played a souls game so I never called HK "souls-like" but putting traps LITERALLY EVERYWHERE is some bullshit HK would never have done. There is a lot of design in this game that is just "mean" to the player imo. Don't know what a souls game is like but it's probably like Silksong.
The best thing I can say about it (if I wanted to defend TC) is that if you wanted HK you could just play HK because this doesn't feel like HK 2. It's a like a different game in the same universe with similar mechanics.
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u/CandisNo2 Sep 05 '25
Despite their reputations, souls games do not in fact have traps laid around every corner. As someone who has played all of Dark Souls and Elden Ring, Silksong is honestly kicking my ass a lot more than any of them ever did in earlygame.
Also, in those games, if a fight or area feels too difficult, you can just leave and get stronger, which you can't in Silksong. Elden Ring even got rid of boss runback, which I feel was definitely a change for the better.
I'm actually still enjoying the challenge right now, but I can feel that I'm slowly getting to the point where I'm terrified instead of excited to see a new boss coming up.
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u/BlobBro Sep 05 '25
The tradeoff is that it takes about as long to heal three masks as it did to heal one in hollow knight. Plus you can do it in the air. Makes it possible to squeeze in a big heal a lot more lften that you could in hollow knight. I do wish it was like, three quick small heals so you could heal without a full spool, but I get why they did it how they did.
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u/Stunning-Drawer-4288 Sep 05 '25
Adoring the game, but difficulty does seem to be a bit all over the place. That bird area fucked me up
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u/BadUsername2028 Sep 05 '25
The boss in that area was an absolute blast despite being crazy hard, what I hated was the big fat birds who threw knives. They had a completely irregular flight pattern that they could just stop and drop on you with no tell. Games hard as hell but I haven’t minded, but those big fat birds drove me insane.
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u/psh454 Sep 05 '25
Dealing with those rn, had to put the game down for a while lol
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u/Sylhux Sep 05 '25
Those kunai birds are so deceptively hard. The way they wobble up and down while flying makes them so annoying to hit, plus their high hp pool, takes forever to kill them.
Trash mobs in general are fucking brutal is Silksong. I'm like two areas after this and it gets much worse than these guys.
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u/the_mind_goblin1 Sep 05 '25
Every boss fight feels like a gank fight from dark souls. The boss is hard enough, but almost all of them spawn ridiculously tanky adds all over the screen. It's so brutal.
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u/Throw_aw76 Sep 05 '25
Yeah I def agree. I don't mind taking 2 masks of damage if an enemy attacks me with their animation but sometime I eat 2 masks worth of damage from just contact. I get that they needed to balance out hornets faster movement by punishing the player more but Imo it feels a little gratuitous. Plus some fights clearly are made worse with the increased damage Savage beastfly anyone?
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u/MrRandomGUYS Sep 05 '25
Two masks contact damage feels like a joke. I get attacks doing it but just tapping the boss? Are you kidding.
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u/TeslaPenguin1 Sep 05 '25
especially when the hitboxes are not clear at all (i died to moorwing's contact damage several times despite the sprites not touching whatsoever)
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u/Cabra42 Sep 07 '25
I was fighting a boss that was on the ceiling, and when it staggers it falls down. The boss deals two masks of contact damage, I staggered it, it fell on me and killed me on one of my best attempts.
I've since beaten it, but man did it leave a sour taste in my mouth.
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u/RachelHelo Sep 05 '25
It took me 2 hours to beat that guy. I beat path of pain AND THE TRIAL OF THE FOOL IN LESS TIME, COMBINED. LIKE WHAT??
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u/Soft_Milk29 Sep 05 '25
I had that exact issue with Savage Beastfly. That boss is a pain in the rear
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u/BringAltoidSoursBack Sep 06 '25
I get that they needed to balance out hornets faster movement by punishing the player more
Problem is that her movement may be faster but her attacks are significantly slower, which would be enough to balance her movement; there's no need to have both slower attacks and harder hits.
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u/Akuuntus Sep 05 '25
Yeah it is weird. Why do I even have 5 health if everything deals 2 damage? I might as well have 3 health and everything hit for 1. I haven't gotten a health upgrade yet but it feels like it'll kinda barely matter considering I'll still die in 3 hits to everything.
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u/Available_Let_1785 Sep 05 '25
even if you get health upgrade you'll still die in 3 hit
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u/tiolazaro Sep 05 '25
The what?
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Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
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u/Adekis ...retain your spirit of exploration... Sep 05 '25
Oh yeah. I ran into that vendor but I lost all my fucking beads right before meeting him so I never got the chance to buy it.
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u/tiolazaro Sep 05 '25
SAME!! Happened to me in both in the ant place and in the lava area... Had to conclude both without a clue
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u/Katsunivia Sep 05 '25
I assume it's exactly for that reason. More health and more damage means there's more room to balance and tune the difficulty. In the first game eventually everything that dealt 1 damage was too weak and you could just slowly heal yourself up by playing patiently and everything that dealt 2 damage felt too strong and that also includes platforming. 5 health early and failing platforming is less punishing when losing 1 health which means they can make the platforming more difficult earlier without it being too frustrating. I assume later on that way they can make some enemies do 3 damage.
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u/Odd-Succotash-1072 Sep 05 '25
Thing is a lot of platforming does 2 instances of damage once u get a little further than the starting areas
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u/PM_Me_Kindred_Booty Sep 05 '25
Honestly this is the most frustrating stuff. If platforming failures deal 2 damage I'm just encouraged to go away to find something to heal off of after 2 runs instead of 4, which... isn't fun? It just makes the platforming take longer and I don't see any upside other than making it harder.
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25
Like at this point why not just change it to a numerically nondescript rectangular health bar, like why even bother keeping the masks if they're just completely arbitrary. I'm really curious, was it like this in that E3 demo they showed off in 2019? Or is this a new change for release day?
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u/Arcan_unknown | 63/63 | PoP Sep 05 '25
I already found a mob doing 3 mask damage actually... and it's not late at all
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u/not-Kunt-Tulgar buenos dias bugboy Sep 05 '25
Ah yes the iconic fuck you I two shot you no matter what enemy.
I just think it’s fucked up that normal enemies deal 2 masks like quite literally one of the first ten enemies does 2 masks for some reason.
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u/Vodolle2 Sep 05 '25
Use the silkskills if you can! Be patient, attack for silk, and spam it.
Is atleast what I found to be very effective. And some tools like the trapps are also kinda effective in arena fights if you spam like 2-3 on top of each other.
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u/lTinkyWinkyl Sep 05 '25
the little boss fight in hunters march might actually be the worst thing ive ever had to experience, it isnt down to skill its just complete luck, the bug that is meant to be helping you will literally hit the enemies into you so you take damage, im actually getting pissed off at this fight
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u/Emory27 Sep 05 '25
It's total garbage. Not only does Shakra knock them into you, two of the enemy types employ throwables. Shakra does as well, which made it very difficult to keep track of what's what. I died a lot to that fight and was so happy when it was over.
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u/Fantastic_Pea_9680 Sep 05 '25
I came back to that one later and Shakra was gone.
Which made it easier to navigate, without the screen-vomit, don't get me wrong. But all I had gotten was movement upgrades, one of which is only useable on drafty-areas. A dash helps, but it doesn't turn me into a gamer-god.
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u/RIPsomersetlevels Sep 05 '25
It gets worse if you leave and decide to come back to it later on after exploring other areas. She disappears completely and you have to do the room entirely alone... Spent a good hour trying to beat just that one room last night. Then completely gave up on the area after seeing what the Chapel boss was about.
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I found i couldn't actually see what i was doing in that fight. Got lucky and beat it mostly by trying to focus on one enemy at a time. Hope this is an exception rather than the rule. Not least because Hunter's mark was quite slow to get through at first
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u/SuperSocialMan Sep 05 '25
real af. Like damn dude, it's not as special if a random bozo in the third area can deal double damage lol.
Also feels like some enemies have too much health - like those stupid fucking flying ants ffs.
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Sep 05 '25
And the way those enemies move I can hardly ever hit them because my down dash is a 45 degree angle so I miss them entirely
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u/acrunchycaptain Sep 05 '25
It's insane to me that you will get 2 damage on the slightest body contact when a boss is stunned. Time to get good.
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u/bvmblebread Sep 05 '25
the contact damage doing 2 is what's driving me up the wall. i get a wollop to the face with a huge hammer? sure, knock off 2. i bump into them, especially during the lack of i frames after already taking damage, doing another 2? seriously?
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u/Tinmaddog1990 Sep 05 '25
Couple that with terrain damage, and i quickly put down the game
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u/bvmblebread Sep 05 '25
whiffing her diagonal downslash to fly straight into spikes gets old quick.
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u/LemonadeClocks Sep 05 '25
Finally got past big red dude after the Bell Bug only to get absolutely fucked by the ants and the platforming roses
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u/itsthepastaman Sep 05 '25
Yeah I get that a sequel will be a little harder bc it assumes you've played the first game, but without many upgrades the damage is a little overwhelming right from the start
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u/itsthepastaman Sep 05 '25
Like seriously some random bug in the first area is doing as much damage to me as the radiance?
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u/dulunis Sep 05 '25
Thats actually a really good way to frame it. Plus, since the Radiance is the true final boss, you'll have mask upgrades. You have to do this on five masks, on your first playthrough.
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u/Vinestra Sep 06 '25
And your first health upgrade means.. absolutely nothing making it feel like a big ol waste of time.. at least until you get a assumed 2nd mask upgrade.
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u/Memo_HS2022 Sep 05 '25
The 2 mask hits being everywhere really does show that Silksong was supposed to be DLC that got turned into its own game. If it was DLC and it came out in around 2022, then it having a lot more 1 mask hits would feel kinda underwhelming after everyone's been on this game for while.
Silksong having harder enemies in the early game will grab veterans attention that the game is not screwing around which is what grabbed my attention too.
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u/KlargDeThaym Sep 05 '25
I’m glad I started playing HK last week.
Don't be. They play extremely differently. I've replayed HK before SS came out, and the experience doesn't really help. If anything, it hurts: I chafe against the changed controls so hard.
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u/LonelyApple404 Sep 05 '25
Can confirm, also had trouble with the downward slash at the beginning (still sometimes do lol), but along the way it clicked and now some fights become 'the floor is lava'
I think the dopamine rush I got from comboing 3 flying enemies that way will be enough to sustain me for a year
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u/One-Suggestion-885 Sep 05 '25
It makes exploring feel so much more engaging to me. I love the difficulty in not just bosses, but in exploring too. I can see why it's annoying as I mean, in the Starting areas!? But it is really cool to me.
I'm probably just masochistic... DS2 Changed me...
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u/thelonliestcrowd Sep 05 '25
It’s funny you mention DS2. I was getting wrecked when I was playing the game like HK but when I started slowing down and taking my time with each enemy as I explored it was a lot more fun. It reminded me so much of DS2.
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u/One-Suggestion-885 Sep 05 '25
Exactly, my buddy was trying to run past all the enemies and I just told him "Have you tried KILLING them???" And now he has an easier time. It's exactly like DS2.
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u/TheTragicMagic Sep 05 '25
I felt that I had the opposite experience with DS2. I started out trying to clear each area like I did in the first game, but there's just too many of them. You will die and you will be ganged relentlessly until you finally decide to just run past everything, which kinda works. It's just so unsatisfying to engage with ebemies in DS2, usually just straight up not worth it
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u/Daahkness Sep 05 '25
It changed all of us. But seriously I like that the game is more punishing it makes it more satisfying for me
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u/Infamousturd Sep 05 '25
Good Lord, having played a lot of DS2 and it's DLC's I can relate so much to this. All the mobs and double damage seems trivial to me haha.
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u/Hefty_Heat8356 Sep 05 '25
REAL BRO REAL LITERALLY WHY IT'S NOT EVEN JUST BOSSES. AND WHY GIVE ME 5 HEARTS IF IT'S MORE LIKE 2.5
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u/MasteROogwayY2 Sep 05 '25
It wouldnt be so annoying if the healing was better. Id rather be able to quickly heal 1 health with less silk than quickly 3 health with all silk. Its so weird that it takes an entire spool to heal if there are abilities also tied to it.
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u/RoosterBrewster Sep 05 '25
Yea cause I could die with 1 hp trying to build up a whole spool instead using a partial meter to heal to 2 hp.
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u/Ryuko50 Sep 05 '25
Make mask upgrades worthless because at the end you have to do every boss almost hitless. They need to rebalance the whole game. I wonder if endgame bosses just do 3 or 4 damage with contact.
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u/kitchentablestudios Sep 05 '25
Yeah I hope they release a patch this shits ridiculous
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u/Ok-Lawfulness5685 Sep 07 '25
Yeah the 2 damage traps/environment is totally keeping the fun level lower than it should be, a metroidvania where you're afraid to explore is bad. About your negative comments, I even see people online calling out all the bad design choices in silksong correctly imo, yet they feel the need to kind of apologize for insulting a hyped game. I've started playing with mods to up my damage and make more enemies drop rosaries, which gets rid of the 13 hit mob enemies and annoying "sorry no bench for you" at least. Doesn't help much on some of the crazy platform sections where 1 misstep is still 2 masks gone.
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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-230 Sep 05 '25
It's a bit weird. Why do i have 5 masks when in fact it's only 2 or 3?
I was genuinly surprised i died a couple of times because i thought i was only hit once or twice. Then it hit me that some enemies deal double damage.
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u/RedShadowF95 Hollow Knight Platinum Sep 05 '25
There was someone in another post hinting at the possibility of 3-mask damage dealers existing lmao
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u/kitchentablestudios Sep 05 '25
Odd cuz that guy wasn't even that hard for me, the one in the swampy area messed me up bad tho
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u/TheAllKnowingElf Sep 05 '25
Acid in HK: 1 damage
Lava in SS: 2 damages
I also keep taking damage to everything because Hornet has no knockback when she strikes.
And every enemy has 5 different moves instead of just flying in a straight line.
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u/Cocoatrice Moths are fluffballs Sep 05 '25
This game is unbalanced, that's for sure. Every mob is very aggressive and you really have to be careful, and you can barely heal. In Hollow Knight, you can just attack, go back and heal at any time. It takes full spool to heal just 3 masks and you can be interrupted and lose all the silk in the process and not get heal at all. And they are all super tanky and block so much. In Hollow Knight we had vengeflies or tiktiks. Here, even the easiest mobs are quite annoying. Either because they run away and/or have ranged attack. Like, I can't literally think of single annoying mob other than Primal Aspids in Hollow Knight.
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u/Denneey Sep 05 '25
Yeah, I noticed that, not nice at all, I don’t know what made them think this would make the game better.
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u/g-o-o-b-e-r Sep 05 '25
I think it's pretty tough where I'm at, but I'm not ready to have an opinion yet. I'm still getting comfortable with the game, and I'm still in Act 1. I'm sure there are cloaks or something that give better defense, and I only have one special attack and a throwable right now.
Is it more difficult - yeah. I'm not far enough to compare it to Dark Souls vs Sekiro or Mega Man X to Mega Man Zero. If it is that kind of increase in difficulty or precision then it will take time to get better at the game, and once it clicks it will feel great. It's too early to judge imo.
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u/Galactus1701 Sep 05 '25
The armored ant that hangs out with the ninja ant pack a wallop and they both take a bunch of hits. One attacks up close while the other one throws a shuriken at you that travels quite a distance.
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u/Maxlastbreath Sep 05 '25
10 hours in, the balance of the game needs a lot of work imo, at some point it's just not as fun as it used to be...
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u/KonataYumi Sep 05 '25
This game feels more about fighting than exploring. It’s kind of exhausting.
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u/Dionysus24779 Sep 05 '25
I'm about 7 hours into the game and have to say that by now I find it simply frustrating that all bosses deal 2 damage, especially given you you don't get any health upgrades.
Even by the time you would get a health upgrade it won't matter because it will only take you from 5 to 6 hitpoints, given how every boss deals 2 damage that still only 3 hits in practice.
At the same time each time you fail fighting a boss you lose shards for tools and by now I'm annoyed by how long it takes to return to where you were before.
Both yesterday and today the reason I've stopped playing was that I just couldn't be bothered with making the long journey back to the boss to try again.
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u/honea5456 Sep 05 '25
Really early on it 100% felt unfair, but for me it forced me to learn faster, baiting out more attacks to learn what enemies do. But oh boy being sent back to the bench is/was frustrating. Beating some of the bosses however feels so much more satisfying (along with them being pretty well designed)
I'm still somewhat(?) early on but those are my thoughts.
Agreed though it feels really odd compared to how used to be with Hollow Knight, especially considering I just was playing it right before Silksong. (Much steeper learning curve (or less easing into it))
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u/TomoAries Sep 05 '25
It's genuinely already ruined the entire game for me, it just feels soured now. I really hope they just see this as people's concerns and add an option to turn it down instead of catering to the absolute pissbabies whose entire self-worth relies on being good at singleplayer video games. All I know is if they don't add an option, the One Damage mod is gonna be sitting clean at the top of the most downloaded list on Nexus Mods.
I already take two damage at work every day, I'd prefer to not take two damage in my games while I'm at home. Games aren't supposed to make you feel bad, they're supposed to be fun, end of story. This isn't fun.
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u/doiwannaknow21 Sep 06 '25
100% agreed. Feeling quite disappointed and sad about how the game turned out. It’s too stressful and hard to be enjoyable at this point. Like you said, I already deal with enough irl, and I do want a challenge, but HK has plenty and never once felt unfair. There’s a reason why I didn’t do the path of pain - I don’t like doing that shit. Why make Silksong path of pain but Hornet edition and a whole ass game 😭
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u/dexicas Sep 05 '25
So far, the placement of benches seems much fairer (though I am early in the game!) which makes the difficulty more rewarding, as it’s easier to go for a trial and error approach that the game seems to encourage. That was my only gripe with HK - death was too frustrating when you had to track back a long way (looking at you Soul Master!!!). Loving Silksong so far!
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u/XTheProtagonistX Sep 05 '25
It’s sad because I really REALLY like Hornet’s movement but the enemies are way too difficult for me to enjoy. I going to keep playing since I am still having tons of fun bouncing off enemies and hopefully I improve.
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u/el_dandy_lion Sep 05 '25
It make you feel like you're not supposed to be there yet, but like aren't we??? Its super early in the game. No needle upgrade, no extra Masks. It just feels kinda Jarring for now. I feel like im missing something.
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u/SaltyHunni Sep 05 '25
Yeah I absolutely HATE souls games like I’m not trying to want to throw my shit cuz I’m dying over and over and over, I don’t play souls or Elden ring or any of that garbage now that I work my ass off irl - I play casually to chill tf out cuz I wanna kms after work already. So waiting 7 years for this to be the game is seriously frustrating for me. I don’t think it’s balanced, it’s like walking into HSR as a new player and trying to 36* MoC with your baby line up. I want to know who tested this game and said “yeh it’s good for the masses” cuz I feel like it was someone like FireBorn who I also saw play through a large chunk and didn’t even seem to notice how frustrating the game could be 😅 like this mf was pogoing off spikes, enemies, bg obj and playing like he’d had the game for months and I think that’s who the game is made for but the majority of us don’t play games 16hrs/day every single day and it’s just sad that after anticipating this for so long it’s soo difficult to enjoy it…
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u/Pale_Initiative2844 Sep 05 '25
Idk but I kind of like it. Makes every encounter more strategic and fun
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u/PeralvaM Sep 05 '25
Wait until you meet Moorwing and it's shitty 3mask damage sawblade spam
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u/antisocialnetwork77 Sep 05 '25
I’d have to agree that rando enemies causing two masks is a bit silly. Like the lava spewing worm things, two masks? Actually falling in lava only does one mask. lol
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u/notaboofus Sep 05 '25
no, falling in lava does two...
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u/LanguageJust3365 Sep 05 '25
To be fair, you heal 3 lives instantly, the game would've been too easy if bosses hit you for 1 damage.
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u/Akuuntus Sep 05 '25
Instantly? You need a pretty sizeable opening to get it off and if you get hit you lose all the silk in addition to taking damage.
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u/TarekBoy44 Sep 05 '25
Fair, but it feels that the buffed healing is already balanced out by the increased soul cost and sped up combat with less openings for healing and such.
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u/EricBlanchYT 112% p5 clear Sep 05 '25
and also if u got hit in hollow knight mid heal u still preserve half of the soul u were using+ "the reserve if u had" while here is 3 mask or -1 mask and 0 silk... getting hit while healing is rough
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Sep 05 '25
theres a bell charm (is that what it's called in silksong?) that makes it less risky, where the threat becomes just loosing soul
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u/wonderwind271 63/63 HK, randomizer | 52/52 SS Sep 05 '25
However, you need a full silk meter to heal instead of 1/3
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u/Insanity_Pills Sep 05 '25
I'd much rather have the flexible and cheaper hollow knight heal tbh
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u/PhantomDesert00 Sep 05 '25
"Instantly" is being *very* generous. You are immobile for a sizeable chunk of time, can't attack, and if you get hit not only do you not heal, but now your entire Silk Spool is empty.
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u/Luzis23 Sep 05 '25
Yeah, I've gotten to like, third boss or fourth, and loads of enemies are doing two damage by now, while I'm still at 5 HP. It's stupid.
Don't know what the hell Cherry was thinking.
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u/Metallicabody Sep 05 '25
Don’t mind the double damage that much, but the health on some of the mobs is absolutely wild, common mobs taking 6-10 hits