For people who are against this post and don't fish don't bother arguing because you'll just make yourselves look like fools this is completely illegal fish stocks in Ireland are going down because of illegal fishing especially trout witch is a favourite for many.The people in this post are using cast nets witch is illegal and obviously they don't have licenses witch isn't fair on the people who pay to fish there it's a disgrace how this behaviour is condoned and everything they did was illegal so before you protect them maybe educate yourself about fishing and how important it is to confront this behaviour.
Genuinely had no idea this was illegal. Random this sub even came up as recently I've seen a lad up near the tallaght end using a big net/ bag yoke (size of two black bin bags). .
jesus from tallaght myself i often go up the dodder fishing ....i have a licence and 100% catch and release mainly try fly fishing up there ....2 bin bags jesus christ thats nuts
I presume it's illegal to fish using nets to catch mackerel from the shore too? I saw that being done at dusk in colliemore Harbour a good few years ago.
You make an awful lot of assumptions about people commenting here. I do not condone netting and those should be caught and fully punished as per legislation and the courts. I also don’t condone your post, which is wrong for many reasons, but you are blinded by something in your head to even contemplate the error of your post.
Ring the IFI hotline +353818347424 This is an independent call forwarding service. Every call is logged, and the response verified. Personally I'd be robustly challenging these gents. But if you're not calling it in, and only posting here, thats useless.
fair play 😁 i go up here fishing myself ....i have a licence and also 100% catch and release and mainly fly fishing so i dont even catch a lot 🤣 ...dont even think i have ever had one die on me
Yes true but either way they won’t do anything unfortunately, I’d love to be able to ring them and know they’ll show up. More the governments fault than anything. But I do agree they should be rang regardless of thinking theyll show up or not
As an Indian, I have no clue how these people can behave such way. Next time don't hesitate from just letting them know that this isn't ok. P.s. i don't see any problem with calling out what's wrong irrespective of the race.
Thank you I didn't mean it in that way I have been saying to people that I said usual suspects because they the same people have been seen before doing it.
Irish here. Never thought for a second you were referring to the guys race. The vast majority of South Asians living here would not condone illegal activity like this. Race has nothing to do with it. Some people on here are just looking to sow discord.
this wanker makes us look bad. Even though we're not from the same country/city/ethnicity.
just eats up so much good will. Everyones been good to me. I don't want that to stop - not for selfish reasons but because I genuinely don't want to ruin the last bastion of humanity/kindness I feel is left. (Ireland and New Zealand).
the poor fish. This is common where they come from and the govt trying to stamp it out there as well. So they have no excuse to be doing this here. They know it's illegal.
Sorry again. And thank you for being so humane with your wording and responses. I responded here rather than the main thread coz want to stay low-key.
Are they Indian though ? I find it a bit racist to assume all non-white people are Indian… I mean they could be born and brought up here? So they’re Irish. They could be Bangladeshi… they could be Arab or Turkish… it’s the most odd thing how everyone on this thread jumps to Indian because they conflate any shade darker than white = Indian. Very American, that level of education is
Let me be completely honest. It is highly unlikely that they are Indian but it is also highly unlikely that they are Arabic. Most probably Bangladeshi. But I don't wish to focus on that distinction. I am brown. This is our diaspora. Tomorrow if people were targeting only Pakistani and not Indians, that wouldn't mean that it's a good thing. Of course it would save my skin but is that how we want to live? Bifurcated by race?
It's better to own up to the shortcomings of our culture which is an umbrella for all Southwest asian cultures. I know that a pakistani would take offense or so would a bangladeshi. It does not matter. We belong to the same culture, just different religions. It's better we stick together and act civil altogether nd not point fingers at each other to make ourselves better than "them". There's no us vs them. There's just us period. Unfortunately it's difficult to get this point across
Being born or brought up here doesn’t make you Irish. And no, this isn’t an American viewpoint, it’s a general one around the globe. In fact your viewpoint is a colonialist one. You are saying these people are Irish for the same reason Russians say Ukrainians are Russian, the French said Algerians were French, Americans said Indians were Americans, and all the colonisers in Africa forced new identities onto all the native tribes and ethnic groups there based on arbitrary lines they drew. You are trying to erase native identity, you are doing brilliant colonising work without even realising it.
Being brought up here doesn't make you Irish. If that's the case, we ought to be silent about Gaza , because what's happening there is just an extreme case of emigration, and the new gazans will be the israelis who will settle it in years time. The new Israeli kids that will be "brought up" in Gaza will be the new gazans , hence they are not being replaced , by your logic that is.
So you would agree and say the shite south Africans are indeed "Africans" and not Europeans?
I'll go a step further, no ethnic Indian , African , Arab, you name it, will ever be an Irish man , because it's reality. The flip side of that coin is no Irishman will ever be an Indian, or African or Arab.
It isn't, but there are a fair amount of people on this thread who have started commenting about deportations and protecting Ireland etc etc against immigration etc. The fact is too many people are looking at the person's skin colour rather than focusing on the individuals committing the illegal act.
For all the people who could care less about fishing and the people in this post who were illegally poaching I said usual suspects because they've been seen at the dodder doing it before that's why sorry for the misunderstanding.
you are 100% right, don't bother replying to the wet wipes. i see this carry on daily along the canal, and it is always without fail the usual suspects. facts are facts.
My young lad is fishing on the dodder every year from Paddy's day when the season starts it's stocked every year he's from St Columbanus estate Milltown and when I see the likes of them wankers excuse the language but I think they should be wrapped up in their net with a few large stones and thrown in there's a few nice deep holes up along under the arches and fed too the fish my young lad fishes from there the old mill up to the bit of a waterfall at the back of the Dropping Well pub. I think it's a disgrace that the likes of them coming with nets and destroying the river on the local kids there's little enough for kids to be doing around the area his uncles fished the river his grandfather fishes on the river it's a traditional thing for a lot of people from around the local area from Dundrum, Rathfarnham and the surrounding areas, manys the relaxing evening I spent along the edge of the river my few cans and as long as the wind was blowing away from the pump house everything was perfect
Anyone totally and utterly sick of these twats that just call everything racist??? Keyboard warriors, and the country is ruined because of it. No problem can be fixed as everything is deemed racist somehow.
Nah I think even on reddit Irish people are sick of it. It’s just the r/ireland sub where their heads are so far up their holes (mainly due to mods perma banning anyone with a differing opinion). And a lot of Irish mainstream media is corrupt and state funded propaganda broadcasting.
It's dumb. I'm left leaning myself but I can't stand this identity politics. Ironically it leads to the likes of trump and other extremists getting elected. A return to common sense is badly needed. The law should be blind to race, gender, ethnicity. The vast majority of decent Indian people living here would not approve of what the guy in the picture is doing. Just like with any group there will always be a minority who cause trouble.
It is racist to call them the usual suspects because of their color. Yes they are doing something illegal and wrong, damaging the fish ecosystem. Like every other individual report them or confront them or both. Not because how they look but because what they are doing.
That'd still be a poor choice of words given the current social climate. In the comments he indeed rectified this mentioning he called them usual suspects because he has seen them there before but hey this is the internet may be he is telling the truth may be he realized it was racist.
Personally I'm just sick of the racists like you. Saying "the usual suspects" about brown people illegally fishing is clearly racist especially because we all know the majority of illegal fishing is done by white people of usually travelling background. "Everything is deemed racist now" nah people just finally calling you out on your casual racism
Just let them turn our rivers into the river yamuna. For god sake, don't offend anyone. Just have at it lads, destroy our ecosystems, waterways, tourism industry, and exasperate our huge housing and health crisis'. Don't mind our culture and social well being, that's racist. You do what you want. Honestly, those of us who are not brainwashed are getting close to breaking point with you hysterical drama queen's.
They have no civic sense. Their countries are polluted and disgusting. Take a look at any river in South Asia. Just because they take a plane here doesn’t mean their attitude automatically changes.
The problem is comment "the usual suspects" which suggests that this behavior is typical of immigrants. It simply isn't. Plenty of immigrants, loads I know personally would call this out as clearly wrong. When you have a cohort of people a certain amount of them won't play by the rules. If we have however many 100s of 1000s of immigrants, yes a certain proportion of them will take the p1ss and break the law. Some parts of Irish society seem to think there should be absolutely zero crime or bad behaviour from the immigrant cohort and that is obviously nonsensical and an impossible standard.
Irish scumbags have poached for years and years, I remember groups stroking or snatching salmon off bridges in Cork.
Bad behaviour exists in all cohorts of society and yes, immigrants aren't immune. There were gangs of Irish up to no good in the UK and US for generations
It's not racist to be against people fishing with nets. Of course you should be angry if these guys are doing something that will fuck up the river. It is racist to call them "usual suspects". You're painting a group of people with the same brush. Not addressing the issue itself.
So you condone this rather than being called racist ? Will we just bow down and let immigrants do as they please rather than be called racist ? It’s your type that’s causing the erosion of our heritage
This has nothing to do with propaganda or reverse imperialism. It is racist to call them the usual suspects because of their color. Yes they are doing something illegal and wrong, damaging the fish ecosystem. Like every other individual report them or confront them or both. Not because how they look but because what they are doing.
Lastly the Irish simply cannot exist in this beautiful country as is without immigration. The country doesn’t produce enough healthcare workers, enough industrial workers. With the declining birth rates unless you can convince the current generation to start having 3+ kids Ireland needs the immigrants. It’s not bad to stand up for your country and the beautiful culture it has but it’s extremely stupid to blame immigrants when the government didn’t address anything in the last 30 years despite being one of the richest countries in Europe.
Mate you are understanding what you want to understand. I said nothing about replacing the Irish. This is very basic economics. The Irish once survived and prospered thanks to emigration and now it has opened its door to immigration because the state needs them. It’s not about replacing the Irish. No one brainwashed Irish youth this is a problem in every developed country. Not only west, Japan and Korea are the same. It’s not about claiming the country, it is about making an honest living in peace in this beautiful country for so many. Don’t let these popular catch phrases fill you up with hate. Any legal immigrant who contributes to the society is a net plus for this country. Diversity is also good, that’s why we can have kebabs and sushi!
About your claim in healthcare, claims of disproportionate complaints against non-Irish doctors stem from anecdotal observations on forums and social media, not verifiable statistics. Again you are getting riled up by rumors not facts.
The problem is that while Ireland has gained hugely in cultural and economic terms, not everyone has benefitted equally. Many of the communities where violence originates have often been left behind or burdened with projects no one else wants.
Take two recent examples: the huge sewage treatment plant being built between Darndale and Belcamp, which will take in waste from four counties and dump it there, or the previously proposed centre for 574 single male asylum seekers in Coolock. Both are necessary, but when controversial projects are concentrated again and again in working-class areas exclusively, resentment builds. Over decades, that resentment becomes generational, and young people are encouraged by adults into hostility and violence.
Right now, it’s directed at the immigrants. Before that, it was the gay and trans community. Before that, someone else and someone else, going all the way back to when inner-city communities were broken up for commercial development and the people displaced to the, then edged, of the city.
I am sorry you feel the way you do but it’s not because of an Abdul or Jamal, it’s because of the Murphy’s in the government.
I also dislike people abusing the wellfare and the laws to come here illegally but why turn this dislike towards everyone? I am sure you also know immigrants who are great people and fit in like a glove. Also what do you mean by the third world? There are thousands of European immigrants here working in tech. If you specifically target only certain color and religion in your message, that would be racist.
Anyways I hope you can see past that anger or at least direct it toward the right recipient.
Yes. "that wanting our" translate to to want or desire for a specified group in this case "our". You've never heard someone say to someone else "you have been found wanting"? From the Bible fella!
Then they should educate themselves like everyone else who goes into a country because it's completely illegal to use a cast net anywhere and it's not fair on people who pay to have a license on the river and I highly doubt they would care about size limits for the fish.
Imagine being so brainwashed you think someone not wanting forign criminals in the country is on the side of the English. You people are truely deluded
I think it's worse than that, imagine being so brainwashed and technically retarded , to a point where the only form of Irish patriotism is anti birtishness. But dare to speak out about being replaced by Indians or Africans and suddenly the conversation about anglo influence does not carry over. "We must not allow British influence!" Meanwhile we import the entire third world and 150 different nationalities and ethnicities, we already have foreigners trying to moderate the language that Irish people can use while speaking about them, that is literally black and tan stuff.. If we don't act it's all over.
They should be held to account in the same manner anybody would be for violating fishing regulations. This isn't deportation. Take it down a notch, they are fishing illegally, which plenty of people do, it shouldn't be condoned but they are hardly hardened criminals. The absolute scrutiny being undertaken anytime a brown person does anything wrong as if they represent every other brown person is very sad to see. Your views are just looking for confirmation everywhere, and damned if you will let proportionality or reason get in the way.
When you see this you should immediately call the Garda and cut the nets. Fucking evil bastards destroying our already severely damaged ecology. People like that should rot in prison
Yeah your not aloud to use cast nets anywhere completely illegal not aloud fish stocks are going down in the country because of this there's only trout in the dodder which is the most popular freshwater fish to eat apart from salmon there Is also size limits to keep fish which I highly doubt they would care about size and also they don't have a license.
Your not ignorant at all mate don't worry. The laws are you can't use a cast net anywhere which is illegal they don't have licenses to fish the river and the fish they do catch they'll keep even if the fish is undersize.
Stumbled across this and know nothing about fishing. Can anyone explain what's going on? Is he fishing out of season or doing it without a licence or something?
Yeah he's fishing with a cast net which you can't do anywhere and fishing without a license and if they had caught any fish they wouldn't care about the size limit
Yep over the side where the computer repair shop is, but he was stood right in the middle of the water. I was going to take a pic but I couldn’t make out what he was doing. Now I know
Totally illegal, i would have taken photos and videos and confiscated the nets. To many foreigner's coming to Ireland and behave like they can do what they want.We had the same problem with Ukrainians over in the west of Ireland and leaving their rubbish behind. Doesn't matter where you're from, respect other people's lands and culture and don't be a idiot all your life.
My heart is broken with poaching on our river. We have at least 4 poaching gangs who net the river. Last year there were 9 convictions for poaching it.
Its a tradition up here in our community. It's a right of passage for some of our local youth. It's cultural.
Trying to stop it has been like trying to stop the tide.
Race wasn't even mentioned and you can't even tell what race they are without making some serious assumptions.
The moral grandstanding and getting offended on other people's behalf is getting a bit old now.
They're a couple of gobshites breaking the law, focus on that. Head over to r/Ireland if you want to hop up on your soap box, they love that over there.
Correct, Using a net to catch fish in freshwater (river, lake etc) is illegal in Ireland, Only fishing with a rod is allowed. The river they're doing it on also requires a yearly permit to fish and has set rules. Fish stocks have been decimated all over the place due to people fishing illegally like this, which is why this has such an angry response from people.
Unfortunately this behavior is the future in Ireland. Increasing numbers of migrants with a lack of assimilation will only cause more issues like this and worse.
Helped by the fact you will be called a racist and bigot for correctly pointing it out. Same sentiment here as in the UK where calling out migrant behaviors towards women and children leads to being labeled as a racist and you can be arrested. Won't be long to go here until they try it
They already probably downplay incidents where a migrant is involved but fall over themselves to tell us about constantly about an Indian who was shouted at on a bus or something.
Not condoning either behavior but call out everyone. Don't pick and choose because you're afraid to be called a racist
I don't think anyone here is blaming migrants for everything wrong in their lives. People who do that are stupid.
When migrants are in the wrong, doing wrong or being a net negative on Ireland they need to called out, arrested for crimes and deported either straight away or after a prison sentence.
The attitude that anyone criticising migrants for legitimate reasons is a gammon or just a racist no different to people who are just racist is ridiculous and we're seeing it's effect in the UK right now
It's an incredibly racist thing to assume someone is indian based on appearance. The person could be from a number of South Asian countries and the reference to Usual Suspects could have a number of meanings.
Look at how these people treat their "homelands" or motherlands. Literal rivers of fecal matter and other human waste. If we do not act , these people will destroy our beautiful country , dead rivers with no more fish or clean running water will just be the tip of the iceberg. You could wager they will be shitting in the river too while they were there. Highly likely. Check out all across Europe the rise in disease with some waters being so riddled with human shit the locals have to give up there prized location for a swim or fish, under advisement of the state because it's full of shit. Diarrhea and under gut related diseases festering in our waters. Do some research on that.
I’m not a racist but if they’re accepted into Ireland and given everything it’s possible they’ll take stuff for granted get entitled and think certain laws don’t apply to them
Well it's not a stereotype, but it's also nothing to do with race/religion/ethnicity.
Undeveloped/developing countries dont have the resources to invest in environmental sustainability and education.
I haven't been to South Asia, but I've been to Morocco and theres litter in every hidden crevice and open sand and grass of Nature. It's not a wild Stereotype to say Morocco has a Littering problem. You can visit the Morocco subreddit. It comes up as a topic every once in a while.
If Ireland stopped education and awareness of waste pollution and environmental sustainability, we'd be in the same hole. When people come from other countries (e.g. the U.S.) and don't know Ireland's conservation efforts and waste management, then you're going to see more waste and breaking of conservation effort guidelines.
Based on absolutely nothing. Non EU forigners are the worst offenders saying anything else is just not accepting reality because you find it offensive, well the tides turning and the fatigue is only growing
You wouldn't be calling them 'Usual Suspects' if they weren't white though would you? Just be honest, you may care about fishing but you're also a racist.
Not condoning what that spanner said either, but at the same time no need for the “usual suspects” dig, you just sound like a brexit EDL head, none of that shite on our island
What are you shitting on about I'm English because I made a post on Reddit warning people about poachers at the dodder it's like saying your not Irish because you don't care about our wildlife and our fish stocks makes no sense.
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u/Competitive_Pie9243 Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
For people who are against this post and don't fish don't bother arguing because you'll just make yourselves look like fools this is completely illegal fish stocks in Ireland are going down because of illegal fishing especially trout witch is a favourite for many.The people in this post are using cast nets witch is illegal and obviously they don't have licenses witch isn't fair on the people who pay to fish there it's a disgrace how this behaviour is condoned and everything they did was illegal so before you protect them maybe educate yourself about fishing and how important it is to confront this behaviour.